[RBW] Re: Gray Whale 200K

2011-01-05 Thread EricP
And the insurance issue is one I totally understand. It's just other aspects of this particular group that I have problems with. Anyway, in MN you need to be a member of TCBC before riding a brevet. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Jan 4, 9:16 pm, "Ralph Rognstad Jr." wrote: > I believe membership i

Re: [RBW] Re: Gray Whale 200K

2011-01-04 Thread Ralph Rognstad Jr.
I believe membership is an insurance issue. Some clubs carry a blanket policy for all members, so they require membership. My local club pays a premium for each ride based on the number of riders (members or not), which the riders pay for through the ride fee. I decided not to run the brevets I

Re: [RBW] Re: Gray Whale 200K

2011-01-04 Thread Brian Hanson
As a former Minnesotan, I completely understand :) No need to join anything to have fun on a bike. Keep riding! Brian Now a Seattlite On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 5:47 PM, EricP wrote: > Our brevet society is fairly new (2008?). And one needs to be a > member of the Twin Cities Bicycle Club ($25 a

[RBW] Re: Gray Whale 200K

2011-01-04 Thread EricP
Our brevet society is fairly new (2008?). And one needs to be a member of the Twin Cities Bicycle Club ($25 a year) to join. And yes, I usually state will not join a club that would have me as a member. (Do believe they also highly encourage RUSA membership, although that is not explicity state

Re: [RBW] Re: Gray Whale 200K

2011-01-04 Thread Anne Paulson
On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 10:45 AM, Steve Palincsar wrote: > > It's $10 per year to join the DC area randonneur club, and $5 per event. > Considering how much effort the organizers put into setting up the > events, I think that's well worth it, and I'm sure it scarcely covers > the expenses. In my

[RBW] Re: Gray Whale 200K & handlebar bag

2011-01-04 Thread mike
I have a Riv bar tube, it's got the roadside repair kit and bus fare in it. I hang it from the top tube. It's thin enough that it doesn't hit my legs. It wasn't a problem on the bars, just seems to work better for me inside the triangle. On Jan 4, 2:45 am, JimD wrote: > +1 for bar bags. > I u

Re: [RBW] Re: Gray Whale 200K

2011-01-04 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Tue, 2011-01-04 at 10:31 -0800, Jim M. wrote: > On Jan 3, 5:51 pm, EricP wrote: > > Makes me want to contemplate a 200k in the future. However, will not > > join a club just to do the one ride. > > > > Eric Platt > > St. Paul, MN > > > Is that attitude from thrift? In my area, it costs nothi

Re: [RBW] Re: Gray Whale 200K

2011-01-04 Thread Anne Paulson
I didn't have to join any local club, nor did I have to join RUSA. I just paid my ten bucks to sign up for the ride, and that was it. On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 5:51 PM, EricP wrote: > > Makes me want to contemplate a 200k in the future.  However, will not > join a club just to do the one ride. --

[RBW] Re: Gray Whale 200K

2011-01-04 Thread William
...or maybe he's a Groucho Marxist! On Jan 4, 10:31 am, "Jim M." wrote: > On Jan 3, 5:51 pm, EricP wrote: > > > Makes me want to contemplate a 200k in the future.  However, will not > > join a club just to do the one ride. > > > Eric Platt > > St. Paul, MN > > Is that attitude from thrift? In my

[RBW] Re: Gray Whale 200K

2011-01-04 Thread Jim M.
On Jan 3, 5:51 pm, EricP wrote: > Makes me want to contemplate a 200k in the future.  However, will not > join a club just to do the one ride. > > Eric Platt > St. Paul, MN Is that attitude from thrift? In my area, it costs nothing to join the randonneur club, and it only costs $10 to do a ride.

[RBW] Re: Gray Whale 200K & handlebar bag

2011-01-04 Thread doug peterson
On issue regarding front bags that has not been mentioned is cross winds. Anne mentioned it was quite windy on the brevet. A large boxy front bag (I use the Acorn Boxy Rando mostly) has quite a bit of "sail area" as well as sticking toward the front. I definitely notice cross winds but it's not

Re: [RBW] Re: Gray Whale 200K & handlebar bag

2011-01-04 Thread JimD
+1 for bar bags. I use one of the Riv bar tubes on my custom with a small ps camera, and food in it. I've not noticed any effect on handling. -JimD On Jan 3, 2011, at 6:46 PM, Joan Oppel wrote: Thanks for the terrific write up on the brevet. As for handlebar bags: for touring (which I do

[RBW] Re: Gray Whale 200K & handlebar bag

2011-01-03 Thread Michael_S
Acorn has a new small handlebar bag that would be perfect for your Roadeo. And there made right here is So Cal. ~Mike~ On Jan 3, 6:46 pm, Joan Oppel wrote: > Thanks for the terrific write up on the brevet.  As for handlebar bags:  for > touring (which I do with only rear panniers as I motel tou

[RBW] Re: Gray Whale 200K & handlebar bag

2011-01-03 Thread Joan Oppel
Thanks for the terrific write up on the brevet.  As for handlebar bags:  for touring (which I do with only rear panniers as I motel tour),  I use a lightweight small bag on my handlebars that carries my point&shoot digital camera and food.  The bag is an unmentionable brand but it is quite light. 

[RBW] Re: Gray Whale 200K

2011-01-03 Thread EricP
Congrats. Definitely shows my rides over the weekend were properly weak. Makes me want to contemplate a 200k in the future. However, will not join a club just to do the one ride. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Jan 3, 1:23 pm, Anne Paulson wrote: > On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 11:10 AM, William wrote:

[RBW] Re: Gray Whale 200K

2011-01-03 Thread Jim M.
Thanks for the inspiring report! I'm looking forward to doing my first brevets this year. jim m wc ca On Jan 2, 9:18 pm, Anne Paulson wrote: > As of last night, I'm averaging 200K per day for 2011. > > Thanks, everyone, for the brevet advice. As promised, here's the report. -- You received thi

Re: [RBW] Re: Gray Whale 200K

2011-01-03 Thread Rene Sterental
The Hilsen and Atlantis have the same geometry, according to their specs on the Riv site. I don't know if tubing alone could be responsible for any difference, but wheel/tire size may. René Sent from my iPhone 4 On Jan 3, 2011, at 1:00 PM, William wrote: > ***slowly backs away from a thread ve

Re: [RBW] Re: Gray Whale 200K

2011-01-03 Thread CycloFiend
on 1/3/11 12:09 PM, Anne Paulson at anne.paul...@gmail.com wrote: > On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 12:04 PM, Steve Palincsar wrote: > >> >> The Atlantis doesn't have geometry intended for use with a heavily >> loaded handlebar bag.  I can't compare it with a Hilsen, but I can >> compare with a Kogswell

[RBW] Re: Gray Whale 200K

2011-01-03 Thread William
***slowly backs away from a thread veering towards the dreaded "trail vortex"*** On Jan 3, 12:09 pm, Anne Paulson wrote: > On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 12:04 PM, Steve Palincsar wrote: > > > The Atlantis doesn't have geometry intended for use with a heavily > > loaded handlebar bag.  I can't compare i

Re: [RBW] Re: Gray Whale 200K

2011-01-03 Thread Anne Paulson
On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 12:04 PM, Steve Palincsar wrote: > > The Atlantis doesn't have geometry intended for use with a heavily > loaded handlebar bag.  I can't compare it with a Hilsen, but I can > compare with a Kogswell P/R. So what's the tradeoff? Grant designed the Atlantis's geometry intent

Re: [RBW] Re: Gray Whale 200K

2011-01-03 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Mon, 2011-01-03 at 12:02 -0800, Anne Paulson wrote: > The Atlantis has something wrong with its geometry? What's the > difference between the geometry of my Atlantis and the geometry of > William's Hilsen? The Atlantis doesn't have geometry intended for use with a heavily loaded handlebar bag.

Re: [RBW] Re: Gray Whale 200K

2011-01-03 Thread Anne Paulson
The Atlantis has something wrong with its geometry? What's the difference between the geometry of my Atlantis and the geometry of William's Hilsen? On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 11:59 AM, Steve Palincsar wrote: > On Mon, 2011-01-03 at 11:23 -0800, Anne Paulson wrote: >> suspect that part of my dislike o

Re: [RBW] Re: Gray Whale 200K

2011-01-03 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Mon, 2011-01-03 at 11:23 -0800, Anne Paulson wrote: > suspect that part of my dislike of > the a bag is because I'm female, with considerably less upper body > strength than men. Maybe if there's something wrong with your bike's geometry, you might need upper body strength to fight the handleba

[RBW] Re: Gray Whale 200K

2011-01-03 Thread William
"> > 2. Be happy how well my bike handles with a largish handlebar bag > > What bike do you have, and what size? " The bike I have set up specifically for brevet riding is a 58cm 650B wheeled A. Homer Hilsen. I did the ride in to the office today (60km from El Cerrito to South Hayward) along Gri

Re: [RBW] Re: Gray Whale 200K

2011-01-03 Thread Anne Paulson
On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 11:36 AM, CycloFiend wrote: > > I think you are talking about the SFR 200K Lighthouse Brevet.  There are a > few routing challenges early on (and the last 20 miles), so if you aren't > familiar with the course, you might run just the first leg (to Fairfax) and > back.  Each

Re: [RBW] Re: Gray Whale 200K

2011-01-03 Thread CycloFiend
Hey there William - Good luck in the Lighthouse ride! I'll miss that one (though I _may_ roll over to the finish to cheer folks in - definitely don't have the miles this year.) I have a few writeups of my experiences here: http://cyclofiend.com/brevet/ Also, ride-buddy JimG has his: http://yo

Re: [RBW] Re: Gray Whale 200K

2011-01-03 Thread cyclotourist
Oh snaps! On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 11:34 AM, Anne Paulson wrote: > > > I know what would happen if she took my Roadeo for a ride. She'd pick > it up, and say, "This bike is too heavy." Good thing her bike is so > light-- makes it easy to load in a car when she abandons. > > -- > -- Anne Paulson > >

Re: [RBW] Re: Gray Whale 200K

2011-01-03 Thread CycloFiend
on 1/3/11 11:10 AM, William at tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: > Thanks for the write up. I'm ramping up for my first 200k brevet on > the 22nd. Several key points for me: > > 1. It's possible, even if it's cold windy and rainy > 2. Be happy how well my bike handles with a largish handlebar bag > 3

Re: [RBW] Re: Gray Whale 200K

2011-01-03 Thread Anne Paulson
On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 11:28 AM, CycloFiend wrote: > > Have her take your Roadeo around the block, preferably on a rainy day when > there are plenty of puddles on the ground. > > - Jim "Amazed to see so many fenderless riders over this past weekend..." I know what would happen if she took my Roa

Re: [RBW] Re: Gray Whale 200K

2011-01-03 Thread CycloFiend
on 1/3/11 11:23 AM, Anne Paulson at anne.paul...@gmail.com wrote: > (She thinks she needs > to find another way to carry stuff on her bike for randonees. I think > she needs to find a different bike. ;) ) "First ride is free..." ;^) Have her take your Roadeo around the block, preferably on a ra

Re: [RBW] Re: Gray Whale 200K

2011-01-03 Thread Anne Paulson
On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 11:10 AM, William wrote: > Anne > > Thanks for the write up.  I'm ramping up for my first 200k brevet on > the 22nd.  Several key points for me: > > 1.  It's possible, even if it's cold windy and rainy Absolutely! Wear wool, of course, but you knew that. I like the idea of

[RBW] Re: Gray Whale 200K

2011-01-03 Thread William
Anne Thanks for the write up. I'm ramping up for my first 200k brevet on the 22nd. Several key points for me: 1. It's possible, even if it's cold windy and rainy 2. Be happy how well my bike handles with a largish handlebar bag 3. Fill said handlebar bag with food 4. Commit oneself to consu

[RBW] Re: Gray Whale 200K

2011-01-03 Thread doug peterson
Anne: A bar tube bag is a great place to keep food. They hold a suprising amount but don't get in the way or affect the bikes handling the way a larger bag may. dougP On Jan 2, 9:18 pm, Anne Paulson wrote: > As of last night, I'm averaging 200K per day for 2011. > > Thanks, everyone, for the b

[RBW] Re: Gray Whale 200K

2011-01-03 Thread Michael_S
Very nice story and good info for a new Brevet rider. I am planning on at least one 200k this year which will be my 1st. Your detailed account will help me plan equipment choices and approach ( well maybe not the meat pie). One issue I see is that all of the 200k rides are very early in the year or

[RBW] Re: Gray Whale 200K

2011-01-03 Thread rperks
Awsome start to the year, great job making it to the end of the ride. Be sure to share how you work out the bugs on you loading and fendering etc. with your Roadeo. I am going through some of the same issues and hope to get back into some longer distances this year, that was part of why I bought t

Re: [RBW] Re: Gray Whale 200K

2011-01-03 Thread cyclotourist
What a great way to start the year! The trick is maintaining that average :-) Riding 200K is very impressive. For me, 100K is a long ride, so anything more than that is impressive! On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 6:33 AM, Mike wrote: > "As of last night, I'm averaging 200K per day for 2011." > > H

[RBW] Re: Gray Whale 200K

2011-01-03 Thread Mike
"As of last night, I'm averaging 200K per day for 2011." Ha! Anne, great write-up! Sounds like an epic ride and a great introduction to randonneuring. As I head into my fourth year of randonneuring I feel like I'm still learning a lot about packing, eating and how to pace myself. I've learned a lo