[RBW] Re: Front derailers that won't friction shift

2021-06-02 Thread Nick Payne
I can't see what the problem is. I have modern (10s, 11s) SLX, XT, and XTR front derailleurs operated by either barend or DT shifters, on both of which the front is a friction shifter, and the shifting is fine. Nick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "

[RBW] Re: Front derailers that won't friction shift

2021-06-01 Thread Benz Ouyang, Sunnyvale, CA
On Tuesday, June 1, 2021 at 4:08:01 AM UTC-7 ascpgh wrote: > … > I actually had a guy (on a CFRP bike obviously with integrated shifters > and under 30 spokes total holding his 6" section rims to his hubs) look at > my bike with bar end shifters and proclaim them unsafe and that ride rules > sh

[RBW] Re: Front derailers that won't friction shift

2021-06-01 Thread ascpgh
Benz, "1X" is funny to me, one of my favorite FDs for $15 or less is a SunTour X-1. Andy Cheatham Pittsburgh On Monday, May 31, 2021 at 1:03:36 AM UTC-4 Benz Ouyang, Sunnyvale, CA wrote: > You guys are overthinking the suicide rod shifter for front derailleurs. > Just go 1X! :) > > On Sunday

[RBW] Re: Front derailers that won't friction shift

2021-06-01 Thread ascpgh
Don't need scary nomenclature, "suicide" derailleur, to ruffle the masses. I actually had a guy (on a CFRP bike obviously with integrated shifters and under 30 spokes total holding his 6" section rims to his hubs) look at my bike with bar end shifters and proclaim them unsafe and that ride rules

[RBW] Re: Front derailers that won't friction shift

2021-05-30 Thread Benz Ouyang, Sunnyvale, CA
You guys are overthinking the suicide rod shifter for front derailleurs. Just go 1X! :) On Sunday, May 30, 2021 at 2:08:11 PM UTC-7 divis...@gmail.com wrote: > > "(P)ulled enough cable" - you're all overthinking this. > > > https://www.rivbike.com/blogs/grant-petersens-blog/no-10-april-28-or-so

[RBW] Re: Front derailers that won't friction shift

2021-05-30 Thread Benz Ouyang, Sunnyvale, CA
Matthew, the stop is to prevent the lever from running parallel to the downtube in its “released” position, meaning it has already reeled *out* all the cable. Not having the levers parallel to the downtube means one can shift both levers with one hand, which is faster and more convenient. This

[RBW] Re: Front derailers that won't friction shift

2021-05-30 Thread Peter Adler
"(P)ulled enough cable" - you're all overthinking this. https://www.rivbike.com/blogs/grant-petersens-blog/no-10-april-28-or-so-rughut Not that I think this is going to happen, but I feel I must note that GP and I have been discussing rod-lever (AKA "suicide") front derailleurs for several mo

Re: [RBW] Re: Front derailers that won't friction shift

2021-05-29 Thread R Shannon
Hey Garth, You’re absolutely right. Checked mine a little bit ago and it is the 2400. I think it’s two or three years old. Looked at the current design and it is distinctly different. Thanks very much! Best, Rich in ATL Sent from my iPhone > On May 29, 2021, at 5:23 PM, Garth wrote: > > 

[RBW] Re: Front derailers that won't friction shift

2021-05-29 Thread Garth
The Claris you have Rich is the 2400, yes ? That's a "normal arm", while the long arm wonky pull version is the 2000. At least they're easy to spot visually. Microshit makes a nice looking 9-speed normal short cage FD, it's in their catalog, the R52S. I'm sure Grant @ Riv knows about it as

[RBW] Re: Front derailers that won't friction shift

2021-05-29 Thread Matthew P
Neat. But Benz, How does the stop help? By the time the lever reaches the position, either it has pulled enough cable for the desired shift or not. Just because I stop it doesn't mean I've achieved my shift. I write this being well sure you are right and I am missing something. 180 degrees

[RBW] Re: Front derailers that won't friction shift

2021-05-29 Thread Benz Ouyang, Sunnyvale, CA
On Saturday, May 29, 2021 at 8:33:18 AM UTC-7 RichS wrote: > Couple things in Will's post that stood out for me: > > 1. Will said he wasn't happy with the way a Claris front derailer friction > shifted. I've used the Claris in double and triple configurations, friction > shifted (bar ends), 8 sp

[RBW] Re: Front derailers that won't friction shift

2021-05-29 Thread RichS
Hi Joe, That was a good post; great timing when there has been much discussion as of late concerning front derailer design. Thank you to Andy for his highly informative analysis! Couple things in Will's post that stood out for me: 1. Will said he wasn't happy with the way a Claris front derail