[RBW] Re: Effect of reach from changing stem length vs raising/lowering

2018-08-18 Thread John Hawrylak
Stan >From the bike picture you posted, you already have bars with long ramps and a low ramp angle (approx. 10°) and you have the bars rotated to obtain a 0° ramp angle (ramps parallel to ground). I would say the bars are either Nitto B132 or VO Course bars. So you already have the long rea

[RBW] Re: Effect of reach from changing stem length vs raising/lowering

2018-08-18 Thread Daniel Jackson
Sean, I’d say the ramps are the primary position used by many who ride this style of bike. Often traditional Rando machines are kitted with long reach bars like those to which you refer - the variety of hand positions afforded aids in comfort for long miles. I spend about 70% of the time on t

Re: [RBW] Re: Effect of reach from changing stem length vs raising/lowering

2018-08-18 Thread Patrick Moore
A usable position on the ramps depends a great deal on the bar's shape. I used to use Nitto 185s, with very short reach -- 9 cm -- and hardly any ramps to speak of. I switched to the Maes Parallel (I have bars in this shape from Compass and from VO), with 125 mm reach; these do provide a nice, long

[RBW] Re: Effect of reach from changing stem length vs raising/lowering

2018-08-18 Thread Sean Steinle
To add to the number of variables we've already discussed, I stumbled upon some articles on hand positioning for drops (http://lovelybike.blogspot.com/2012/06/drop-bar-hand-positions-introduction.html), which have introduced me to a hand position I haven't used much before and hadn't really he

[RBW] Re: Effect of reach from changing stem length vs raising/lowering

2018-08-18 Thread John Hawrylak
Stan Really nice bike and the contrasting head tube is sharp. Suggesting the best action is to get a Nitto Technomic (either 225mm 0r 190mm quill or a Soma Sutra if stem length of 80 or 100mm is good) of the best stem length and install to get handlebars at saddle height. Raising the bars to

[RBW] Re: Effect of reach from changing stem length vs raising/lowering

2018-08-17 Thread Mark Schneider
Some bike shops can do a decent fit, but a good Physical Therapist that specializes in bike fitting can be invaluable. In my case I had a number of age related neck, back and knee issues and my regular therapist recommended I get a proper fit.It will cost some bills 200 in my case but you alrea

[RBW] Re: Effect of reach from changing stem length vs raising/lowering

2018-08-16 Thread Sean Steinle
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[RBW] Re: Effect of reach from changing stem length vs raising/lowering

2018-08-16 Thread Justin, Oakland
Where are you? Someone here surely knows a good bike fitter in your area. -J -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@g

[RBW] Re: Effect of reach from changing stem length vs raising/lowering

2018-08-16 Thread Lum Gim Fong
Can we see a pic of the bike? Try putting your saddle in KOPS. If the saddle is shoved too far back, KOPS Will bring it forward without damaging anything on your body. KOPS is a pretty neutral place to start. When one sets up a saddle it is not to get closer to the bars it is to move your body i

[RBW] Re: Effect of reach from changing stem length vs raising/lowering

2018-08-16 Thread Garth
If you feel adventurous , get a quill threadless adapter, a few used stems that are in the ballpark of the rise angle/length from say ebay, and play around. Then find a quill that matches that position, or keep that adapter and get a nice looking threadless stem. Oh ... "but it weighs more

[RBW] Re: Effect of reach from changing stem length vs raising/lowering

2018-08-16 Thread 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch
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[RBW] Re: Effect of reach from changing stem length vs raising/lowering

2018-08-16 Thread 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch
You don't mention whether this bike was custom-built for you or if you bought it used. I suspect the latter. In any case, 2" below saddle height is generally more of a racing set up than a Random. Since you are having issues, I would say get a few stems and start experimenting. Once you get the

[RBW] Re: Effect of reach from changing stem length vs raising/lowering

2018-08-15 Thread Sean Steinle
Thanks for the advice so far. In my area, I honestly wouldn't trust anyone to do a good bike fit. Maybe I'm wrong. The only shops in my area are Specialized/Trek/Giant shops and I've just been unimpressed with the answers to most of my questions. I went home and measured to get exact figures.

[RBW] Re: Effect of reach from changing stem length vs raising/lowering

2018-08-14 Thread travis.ha...@gmail.com
I like John’s remark. Too often lost in the exact formula is appreciation of how little or how much variation there is. To OP: If your stem a quill type with an expander bolt, I don’t know why you wouldn’t look at other stems and measure distances to get estimates of minimum insertion for your

[RBW] Re: Effect of reach from changing stem length vs raising/lowering

2018-08-14 Thread John Hawrylak
Not to counter the joe young web tool or Bills advice on a talking to a fitter, but your distance would be shorten by the difference in stem length, see example below Your state the bars are 3cm below the saddle. Assume your saddle to stem CL distance is 65cm. The horizontal saddle to stem CL

[RBW] Re: Effect of reach from changing stem length vs raising/lowering

2018-08-14 Thread Bill Lindsay
Is it feasible for you to consult a competent bike-fitter? Having a conversation and an in-person consultation with somebody who knows what they are doing and understands you and your use-case well would be a good investment. Also decide if your body today is exactly the body you want to have.

Re: [RBW] Re: Effect of reach from changing stem length vs raising/lowering

2018-08-14 Thread Peter White
Keep in mind when fitting your bike that you not only want it to fit well while you're seated but also while you're standing and climbing a hill. While when seated your reach to the handlebar may seem long, while standing the forward position of the handlebar relative to the cranks is rarely long e

Re: [RBW] Re: Effect of reach from changing stem length vs raising/lowering

2018-08-14 Thread Sean Steinle
David, That's fantastic! Thanks! Since it's a custom I'm not sure I can get ahold of my bikes actual angles, but I think I can ballpark it well enough. On Tue, Aug 14, 2018 at 10:07 AM, David B wrote: > Hi Sean, > I use this tool to play around with stem reach/height. > http://yojimg.net/bike/w

[RBW] Re: Effect of reach from changing stem length vs raising/lowering

2018-08-14 Thread David B
Hi Sean, I use this tool to play around with stem reach/height. http://yojimg.net/bike/web_tools/stem.php David On Tuesday, August 14, 2018 at 9:54:10 AM UTC-5, Sean Steinle wrote: > > I'm feeling a bit too stretched out on my new rando bike with noodles. It > currently has a 110cm stem, and the