[RBW] Re: DIY: Blow up a chain into two pieces

2017-11-30 Thread Deacon Patrick
That all makes sense, but breaking the chain in two places, creating two, separate, bits of chain? Wouldn’t the first break have been enough the relieve the tension? Oh well. Quickbeam is all set for a (brain willing) longerish ride tomorrow. That’ll be right proper fixing. No more of the poser

[RBW] Re: DIY: Blow up a chain into two pieces

2017-11-30 Thread Frank Conway
I've broken two chains and it is one of the most abrupt and exciting things that can happen going slowly. Thanks for sharing! On Thursday, November 30, 2017 at 11:37:02 AM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote: > > 1. Remove derailure in a fit of single speed euphoria because you were > doing other thi

[RBW] Re: DIY: Blow up a chain into two pieces

2017-11-30 Thread Christopher Murray
I think Philip has it right. The chainline was off and the chain was essentially trying to get in line with the chainring. Climbing flexed the frame, decreased the distance between the bb and cassette, and created some slack (less tension) in the chain. The chain shifted (helped by the shape of

[RBW] Re: DIY: Blow up a chain into two pieces

2017-11-30 Thread Deacon Patrick
That could well be, Philip. Balrog sized hobbits’ll do that sometimes. Grin. My takeaway matches Kai’s thought: I’ll stick with dedicated fixed gear bits for fixed gear riding (initial 20 miles of fixed riding today — amazing. Brain willing more tomorrow, including more technical trail.). With

[RBW] Re: DIY: Blow up a chain into two pieces

2017-11-30 Thread Philip Williamson
Something weird happened that you don't want to happen again. My guess is now that your massive hobbit wattage while powering up that climb deflected the bottom bracket out of plane enough to shift to the unshiftable cog. Philip www.biketinker.com On Thursday, November 30, 2017 at 2:38:02 PM

[RBW] Re: DIY: Blow up a chain into two pieces

2017-11-30 Thread Deacon Patrick
Kai, that is my experience as well, that close enough is close enough with dedicated ss/fixed set up with cross chaining on my QB (albeit that is highly dialed in by Grant already). Bill, 3/32”, aye. My typest is a wee bit daft in the head sometimes. Grin. With abandon, Patrick -- You recei

[RBW] Re: DIY: Blow up a chain into two pieces

2017-11-30 Thread Bill Lindsay
A 1/32” chain would be pretty narrow #sardonic grin Maybe you meant 3/32”. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@go

[RBW] Re: DIY: Blow up a chain into two pieces

2017-11-30 Thread Kainalu V.
I've been told that modern chains needn't be "spot on" to be perfectly fine on a single speed. Not sure if this advice carries over to an improvised multi to single speed set up, but with dedicated single speed/track stuff, close enough is good enough. At least that's what I was told after agon

[RBW] Re: DIY: Blow up a chain into two pieces

2017-11-30 Thread Deacon Patrick
Yea, chainline was my first thought, but I dismissed it as it was one cog up/in from center and the middle chain ring. I’d eyeballed it before riding and thought it looked alright, but I’m far from an expert. Is 1/8 chain stronger than 1/32? I’d understood they were the same. With abandon, Pat

[RBW] Re: DIY: Blow up a chain into two pieces

2017-11-30 Thread Daniel M
Deacon P, Sounds like you chose a cog on your cassette that was outboard of the position of your chainring in front, so the chainline itself was acting like a derailer trying to shift you into a bigger (inner) rear cog, which the chain was too short to accommodate and which your legs were plen

[RBW] Re: DIY: Blow up a chain into two pieces

2017-11-30 Thread Garth
Well gee . . . I laugh with you DP ! I've done my share of wacky things with a bike too. I don't own or ride a SS and never have even seen one, but just picturing what you describe I can see why you had no chance. For SS, the chainline must be spot on(same plane if you will), if it is n

[RBW] Re: DIY: Blow up a chain into two pieces

2017-11-30 Thread Philip Williamson
Sounds like your chain line was bad? Small ring, maybe, and a middlin' cog? The larger cog caught the chain and levered it up and apart. Same chain length and a single cog in the right location should be fine. I use 9sp chains on my single/dingle/fixed bikes, and once I learned you can't use a

[RBW] Re: DIY: Blow up a chain into two pieces

2017-11-30 Thread dougP
Step 3 often applies, and can be serious. Fortunately, at step 7 you've got the whole thing in perspective. Maybe this is why single speeds us a much wider chain than 6/7/8? dougP On Thursday, November 30, 2017 at 8:37:02 AM UTC-8, Deacon Patrick wrote: > > 1. Remove derailure in a fit of si

[RBW] Re: DIY: Blow up a chain into two pieces

2017-11-30 Thread Deacon Patrick
I may be wrong, Philip, but I think the error was in #2, using the cassette without a derailer. The chain attempted to shift to a larger cog. Pop! No idea why the Pow! happened though. Sardonic grin. With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Gr

[RBW] Re: DIY: Blow up a chain into two pieces

2017-11-30 Thread Philip Williamson
All that sounds fine, up until 4b. I've done similar by putting a nine speed chain back together with a chain tool instead of a master link. Philip www.biketinker.com On Thursday, November 30, 2017 at 8:37:02 AM UTC-8, Deacon Patrick wrote: > > 1. Remove derailure in a fit of single speed eupho

[RBW] Re: DIY: Blow up a chain into two pieces

2017-11-30 Thread Michael Hechmer
What could be better than a near disaster turned into a good story. Michael On Thursday, November 30, 2017 at 11:37:02 AM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote: > > 1. Remove derailure in a fit of single speed euphoria because you were > doing other things and rather than put the gear shifter on you decide