Re: [RBW] Re: Clem Smith Rear Drop Outs

2021-05-13 Thread Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY)
Yep, the Xtracycle conversion fit perfectly into the drop outs, so whatever previous spacing issues there were had been resolved. I *think* the chain length is ballpark ~175 links but it could be more. I didn't count the exact number b/t the two 116 link chains I used but about 1.5 chains. On W

Re: [RBW] Re: Clem Smith Rear Drop Outs

2021-05-12 Thread Philip Barrett
Wow! I guess a straightened rear triangle is probably irrelevant at this point? Seriously cool build, how many chains did it take to reach the cassette? On Wednesday, May 12, 2021 at 2:27:51 PM UTC-5 Justin Kennedy wrote: > I finally got it built up last week and it's riding great! The 26" fron

Re: [RBW] Re: Clem Smith Rear Drop Outs

2021-05-12 Thread Dave
How'd this end up for you Justin? Tempted to try a free radical on the back of a 650b proto-bleriotwould either be running the 650b with the expense of the paul motolite brakes (I think that would work), or would be buying a 26" wheel and running a mismatched 650b up front 26" in back. Curi

Re: [RBW] Re: Clem Smith Rear Drop Outs

2021-04-14 Thread Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY)
UPDATE. Turns out a 26" wheel on a 52 Clem L does not work with a regular V-brake or canti brake. There may be a way for it to work with some other set up but I'm going with the mullet set up - 650b up front and a 26" on the Xtracycle Free Radical extension. Just waiting on the new wheel to arr

Re: [RBW] Re: Clem Smith Rear Drop Outs

2021-04-04 Thread Nerl L.
Hi Justin, I'm on a Clem 52 H, so if the fork is different from the L, then this may not help. Center to center, front axle to brake post is 10-1/2". By the way, one year plus later, I'm still happily on the bars, stem and saddle I got from you! Best, Noah On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 3:14:

Re: [RBW] Re: Clem Smith Rear Drop Outs

2021-04-02 Thread Joe Bernard
Yep. The mountain bikers do a thing now - which I don't really understand - with 27.5/650B in the rear and 29 front, they call it mullet. Ideally you should have 650B rear, too, but your Xtra cycle is 26" so..mullet it! On Friday, April 2, 2021 at 1:38:00 PM UTC-7 Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn,

Re: [RBW] Re: Clem Smith Rear Drop Outs

2021-04-02 Thread Justin Kennedy
650 up front and 26 in the rear? On Fri, Apr 2, 2021 at 4:29 PM Joe Bernard wrote: > Mechanically it might work, real world you're going to have a VERY low > bottom bracket. I say mullet it. > > > > On Friday, April 2, 2021 at 12:50:13 PM UTC-7 Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, > NY) wrote: > >> So I bo

Re: [RBW] Re: Clem Smith Rear Drop Outs

2021-04-02 Thread Joe Bernard
Mechanically it might work, real world you're going to have a VERY low bottom bracket. I say mullet it. On Friday, April 2, 2021 at 12:50:13 PM UTC-7 Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY) wrote: > So I bought the frame! According to James at Rivendell, the distance b/t > the center of the front axl

Re: [RBW] Re: Clem Smith Rear Drop Outs

2021-04-02 Thread Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY)
So I bought the frame! According to James at Rivendell, the distance b/t the center of the front axle and the center of the canti posts on a Clem L 52 is 263mm. I measured the distance from my center front axel to the rim and it's ~285mm. That's a difference of ~22mm or 2.2cm. So theoretically I

Re: [RBW] Re: Clem Smith Rear Drop Outs

2021-04-01 Thread Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY)
Well, since it's going to have an Xtracycle extension on the rear, that rear axle measurement doesn't matter much. i just need to know whether a 26" wheel would fit up front. So if anyone with a 52 Clem L could measure the distance from the center of your front axle to the canti/V-brake posts,

Re: [RBW] Re: Clem Smith Rear Drop Outs

2021-04-01 Thread Philip Barrett
Ask any Clem owner to measure from the center of the rear axle to the center of the brake caliper bolt, that's the magic number you need. On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 9:36:08 AM UTC-5 Justin Kennedy wrote: > Hmm you're right, the Motolites are built to go the other way -- fitting > 650b or 700

Re: [RBW] Re: Clem Smith Rear Drop Outs

2021-04-01 Thread Justin Kennedy
Hmm you're right, the Motolites are built to go the other way -- fitting 650b or 700c to a bike meant for 26". I currently have a cheap Shimano V-brake on the front. Will measure and see if there's any room for losing reach. I like your canti suggestion too. I may email Riv and see what their thoug

[RBW] Re: Clem Smith Rear Drop Outs

2021-04-01 Thread Philip Barrett
If it helps, the 650b wheels that came off this measure as; Axle C to inner edge of of rim = 290mm Axle C to outer edge of rim = 305mm To my calculations you'll need to lose (not gain) 25mm of reach. Centerpull cantilevers might get you there? Then again, for the price of a pair of Paul's you c

[RBW] Re: Clem Smith Rear Drop Outs

2021-04-01 Thread Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY)
I was just looking at that posting! I'm considering upgrading my Xtracylce using this frame. Does anyone know if I can fit a 26" wheel up front, maybe using a Paul Motolite or something with lots of reach? I know the 52 is made for 650b but my current wheelset is 26" Velocity Cliffhanger and I'd

[RBW] Re: Clem Smith Rear Drop Outs

2021-04-01 Thread Philip Barrett
Update; Bikeflights has settled the claim & the frame was donated to a kid's bike charity. Currently up for sale on ebay with the damage shown & repair noted, might be a deal for someone who is OK with the condition; https://www.ebay.com/itm/203329558177?mkevt=1&mkpid=0&emsid=e11021.m43.l3160&mk

[RBW] Re: Clem Smith Rear Drop Outs

2021-03-16 Thread Philip Barrett
It was through Bikeflights.com, I've used them before & they were excellent so here's hoping they come through. I doubt any frame however well packed would have survived whatever it was they dropped on top off this, the sides of the Secialized shipping box were actually burst! A carbon frame wou

[RBW] Re: Clem Smith Rear Drop Outs

2021-03-16 Thread RichS
Phillip, What a disappointment to discover the damage when you opened the box. Did Rivendell ship your Clem? I've purchased a few frames from them and the dropouts (and fork ends) were always well secured. Good luck and please let us know how this is resolved. Best, Rich in ATL On Monday, M

[RBW] Re: Clem Smith Rear Drop Outs

2021-03-15 Thread Joe Bernard
Ouch. Yeah, if you can get your money back and put that baby back on a truck I think that's the plan. Too much drama. On Monday, March 15, 2021 at 4:58:39 PM UTC-7 philipr...@gmail.com wrote: > Chain stay has a pretty decent & visible bend, this one's gone the journey > I'm afraid? > > > > On

[RBW] Re: Clem Smith Rear Drop Outs

2021-03-15 Thread Philip Barrett
Chain stay has a pretty decent & visible bend, this one's gone the journey I'm afraid? On Monday, March 15, 2021 at 6:56:36 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote: > Not great! There should have been a dropout block in there so it wouldn't > crush even if UPS screwed up. I'd do whatever legalities you ne

[RBW] Re: Clem Smith Rear Drop Outs

2021-03-15 Thread Joe Bernard
Not great! There should have been a dropout block in there so it wouldn't crush even if UPS screwed up. I'd do whatever legalities you need with them and take it to a framebuilder to reset the triangle. It's not broken, just a little bendy at the moment. On Monday, March 15, 2021 at 4:49:15 P

[RBW] Re: Clem Smith Rear Drop Outs

2021-03-15 Thread Joe Bernard
135mm. On Monday, March 15, 2021 at 4:38:43 PM UTC-7 philipr...@gmail.com wrote: > My Clem was delivered today & it looks like UPS crushed the box so badly > the rear triangle is bent. Does anyone have a measurement of their rear > dropouts internal width? > > Good news is I bought the insuran