[RBW] Re: Atlantis Rebuild Ideas

Thanks, Garth, this is helpful. I have the same levers as you, the RX 4.1 for road diameter bar ends. Your response confirms that all of the brake calipers I tried these with levers were likely a poor fit and that the fault of the misfit likely resides with the caliper and not the lever, or wit

Re: [RBW] Re: Atlantis Rebuild Ideas

Sheeit. I meant: "A front *double* ought to work just fine ..." On Mon, Jun 19, 2017 at 12:04 PM, Patrick Moore wrote: > ... > A front triple ought to work just fine with this crank; ... > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. T

Re: [RBW] Re: Atlantis Rebuild Ideas

Regarding chain suck/dislodging: I think it's a subtle fd adjustment problem. From the photo, you may not be able to drop the fd, but if you can, it looks as if there is room to do so, and this might make shifting more precise. Second, and I think even more important, the proper fore/aft angle of t

[RBW] Re: Atlantis Rebuild Ideas

Leif, The levers I have are Tekto RX 4.1. The cable pull for canti brakes is the same as sidepull, you can use them for both, just as plain road levers also work fine with canti brakes. My canti brakes are the common Shimano BR-M732, BR-MC70, and Sun Tour XC Pro. The ST are decidely low profile

[RBW] Re: Atlantis Rebuild Ideas

Garth, I like what you're saying about bar end brake levers, but are there good levers to buy? I've tried the tektro 3.2x or whatever they're called, but I ran out of lever pull with cantis, side pulls, and centerpulls. NB, these were all vintage calipers, so perhaps these Tektro bar end brake

Re: [RBW] Re: Atlantis Rebuild Ideas

Thanks for the great replies. To be clear, I changed the front setup to match the default Sugino w/ the guard that Riv sell. The big chain ring is 40T. I'm hearing to have my bike shop check chain tension and alignment but that I don't need a different der. Sound about right? -- You recei

[RBW] Re: Atlantis Rebuild Ideas

Is there a pic of the setup you are recommending? Not sure I'm getting exactly what you are describing. Thanks! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an emai

[RBW] Re: Atlantis Rebuild Ideas

I'm in the midst of a rebuild for my Atlantis as well. Some similar changes to yours: 1. Drops to Albatross bars (CrMo version). Cut 1.5" from the ends. Unless you're concerned about rust or weight I don't see an advantage to the aluminum bars. 2. Front der shifter is now on the down tube, Paul

Re: [RBW] Re: Atlantis Rebuild Ideas

MTB and Road front derailleurs have different cable pull standards. But, if you're using thumb shifters (or downtube shifters, or bar-ends), then the difference is just a matter of lever throw. Either FD can work fine with friction shifting. Chain suck is usually a problem with interference with

[RBW] Re: Atlantis Rebuild Ideas

Thumbshifters and bar end brake levers are my preference for swept back bars, hands down. What I find useless about regular mtb levers is you cannot use some of the most valuble hand space. Thumbshifters located just inside the top curve and bar end brake levers frees up all that space. I have l

[RBW] Re: Atlantis Rebuild Ideas

"My bike shop said the mountain triple der. might need to go. Any thoughts on how to fix this?" Did you change the FD? Or the chainrings? If not, it seems odd to get chain suck. If so, maybe go back to the previous parts, assuming they worked. Maybe you changed the sizes of the chainrings

[RBW] Re: Atlantis Rebuild Ideas

Hey all, Though I'd post an update w/ some pics of the rebuilt bike and 2 questions for the group. Overall I'm loving the feel of the albatross bars and the general rebuild. Questions: 1. I'm getting a lot of chain suck and chain falling off in the front if I shift quickly. My bike shop s

Re: [RBW] Re: Atlantis Rebuild Ideas

I'm against cutting anything off of any of my handlebars, but that's me. I filed off the ridge on my ergon grips so they could slide forwards on my choco bars, so now I've got about an inch protruding back from the grips. My point is you could easily lose those 3cms and still leave room for comf

Re: [RBW] Re: Atlantis Rebuild Ideas

I just called Riv and they do seem to say that the Chocos come back about 3cm more than the Albatross which is pretty significant. I am tempted to go Map, but I really wanted that swept back / upright feel and I don't love the curviness of the Albatross. I prefer the lines of the Choco. Maybe

Re: [RBW] Re: Atlantis Rebuild Ideas

Maybe ease into it. I suppose the transition to full super upright would look like noodles-albastache-map/ahearn-albatross-choco-bosco. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails

Re: [RBW] Re: Atlantis Rebuild Ideas

Ugh! Now I'm really starting to worry that I need to rethink. I've always been happy w/ my hands just over my brakes on the noodles just at its set up in the picture. Seems like the chocos might be too far back. On Tuesday, May 30, 2017 at 11:18:35 PM UTC-7, drew wrote: > > Choco bars come

Re: [RBW] Re: Atlantis Rebuild Ideas

Choco bars come way way back. Further than albatross even. The map bar are a good suggestion for an uprightish bar on a bike without a super long top tube. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and

Re: [RBW] Re: Atlantis Rebuild Ideas

The MAPs are different from the Jitensha. They have more rise and a longer grip area. Plus you can get them in a much wider width (that I have not tried). And they are rated OK for MTB use and do not have a sleeved grip area. -Justin On May 30, 2017, 12:04 PM -0700, jjss , wrote: > I curious t

[RBW] Re: Atlantis Rebuild Ideas

I curious to know if anyone has experimented with both these bars or the jinensha bars (are they exactly he same?) and the Choco-norm bars and have a sense of how the would compare. The Chocos would just be even more upright? On Tuesday, May 30, 2017 at 11:53:56 AM UTC-7, gordo wrote: > > I se

[RBW] Re: Atlantis Rebuild Ideas

I second Justin's suggestion of the MAP/Ahearne bars. I'm running them on my cruiser-ish Atlantis with Paul thumbies and they are perfect for commuting, rambles and short overnighters. It also makes handling a typically overloaded front rack/basket very easy. - Eric in SF On Tuesday, May 30,

[RBW] Re: Atlantis Rebuild Ideas

Not to over judge your plan BUT... If you are building this up to be a "cruiser-ish" ride that your partner can use on the weekends, I would not build your second bike to go "faster" if you plan to ride together. It sounds like you ride more than they do. I have found that you may be on the end

[RBW] Re: Atlantis Rebuild Ideas

not really. i guess the "curves" area is where i probably could touch the bar end cables, but when riding in that position, i let my palms rest and didn't wrap my fingers around the bar. it worked fine, any hairy handling required wasn't going to come from that hand position anyways. if you lik

[RBW] Re: Atlantis Rebuild Ideas

Philip, I was trying to set mine up the way you have it and worried that the cable might get in the way when I grab the front curves of the bar. Has that been a problem for you with this set up? John On Tuesday, May 30, 2017 at 8:14:56 AM UTC-7, Philip Kim wrote: > > here's a picture to bette

[RBW] Re: Atlantis Rebuild Ideas

here's a picture to better show what i mean On Tuesday, May 30, 2017 at 11:13:21 AM UTC-4, Philip Kim wrote: > > microshift are great as all of them have friction op

[RBW] Re: Atlantis Rebuild Ideas

microshift are great as all of them have friction options as well as index options. i really like paul thumbies and shimano bar ends, and running them inverted, so the thumb levers side beside the bar and not on top of the bar. allows your handlebars to be relatively free On Tuesday, May 30, 2

[RBW] Re: Atlantis Rebuild Ideas

Ha. Fair enough... Realistically I will still ride it more than her. I'm moving by the beach so I want this set up as my day to day commuter and grocery bike that she can then ride on the weekends. B/c I'll probably be figuring out another bike for myself with a "faster" setup, I like the id

[RBW] Re: Atlantis Rebuild Ideas

Thanks for the great replies! As I think about it and talk to a few folks I do keep hearing arguments against the bar ends on this setup. So now the next question is, if I go with thumb shifters, what should I get? If I'm most interested in the best function and happy with friction, what wo

[RBW] Re: Atlantis Rebuild Ideas

Well, I think you really need to decide who you are doing this for first, because you say you GF is going to ride it, But seem to be making choices based on what YOU like!? If it was for you I would second the Albastache recommendation, but if it's for the GF, I'd go Albatross. I've had both on

[RBW] Re: Atlantis Rebuild Ideas

Now there's a sensible idea. Never tried them myself but the Albastache is well regarded. +1 for having to change everything. dougP On Monday, May 29, 2017 at 2:32:24 PM UTC-7, panog wrote: > > I'll give you an idea and that is before you go all out with a new > groupset try the Albastache fi

[RBW] Re: Atlantis Rebuild Ideas

Couple of thoughts: Think again about thumbies. On upright / flat bars, IME&HO, thumbies are more natural & intuitive. Another consideration is the sticking out bar ends get in the way sometimes. You can check to see if Paul's thumbie adapters will work with Silvers but they work with the le

[RBW] Re: Atlantis Rebuild Ideas

The next time my bike is at an LBS, I'm going to have them install those chunky grips. I've heard nothing but good things about them. I like the clear-coated bare frame Atlantis. I didn't know any models besides the Bombadil got that treatement. On Monday, May 29, 2017 at 10:16:00 AM UT