Re: [RBW] Re: All American Roadeo

Renovo hardwood bikes use imported hardwoods as well. When I worked at a Kestrel dealer in the early 90s the rep told us they got their carbon from American corn! If there's one thing we have in plentitude it's American corn. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the G

[RBW] Re: All American Roadeo

If you were to pay retail for all the MUSA parts, and then pay an American citizen to steal the non-MUSA parts, then you be camped out on the true moral highground. What a view from up there! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" g

Re: [RBW] Re: All American Roadeo

I'm thinking of ordering a bamboo Calfee. The bike is built in the US. I know the bamboo is imported but, by the fact that it is only grown overseas and not actually manufactured, would that be OK? Bill Louisville, Ky On Dec 21, 2011, at 4:54 PM, Dave Rivbike wrote: > I'm aware of the overseas n

[RBW] Re: All American Roadeo

Along these lines, just found a post on Guitar-Ted's page about bicycles and MUSA http://www.g-tedproductions.blogspot.com/2011/12/friday-news-and-views_23.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on

[RBW] Re: All American Roadeo

Maybe if Tony Pereira could be convinced to make you one of those swell lever front derailleurs you see on some of his bikes. There are a few U.S. builders who make quill stems. Be ready for a long wait though. I ordered one in April and still do not have mine. On Dec 20, 11:48 am, Dave Rivbike

[RBW] Re: All American Roadeo

I'm aware of the overseas nature of the lugs themselves, figured someone would point that out. Even if you pounded out the lugs here, who knows where the steel came from right? I realized the great lengths you'd have to go to to be totally pure USA, but the thread has been useful so far. I learned

[RBW] Re: All American Roadeo

DT Swiss, I believe, makes (assembles?) some of their rims/hubs/spokes/ wheels in Grand Junction, CO. On Dec 20, 10:48 am, Dave Rivbike wrote: > Gestating the idea of an All American Roadeo. > Is it possible? > Would have gone with say an Atlantis, but I think the MUSA quill stem > doesn't exist

[RBW] Re: All American Roadeo

Overall I think this a fun thought exercise, but it's really easy to go through the looking glass in pursuit of it. As noted, the aluminum in a Paul's component, isn't MUSA, nor is probably the steel, rubber, plastic, etc in any other part. But of course raw meterials are only a small part of th

[RBW] Re: All American Roadeo

I would also like to point out that there are several middle-men to muddy the waters about MUSA. Say you have a Surly or Taiwan-made Hillborne frame (both manufactured by the same outfit, I think). Both Surly and Rivendell are American brands. Their headquarters are here. Their idea and design a

[RBW] Re: All American Roadeo

I dunno, Joe. If we're going to make a special to effort to buy MUSA, then maybe it's important to define what MUSA actually means. Otherwise it's an empty feel-good term. If vintage parts, no longer made, are acceptable, why not just cut to the chase and buy an old Schwinn ballooner, in its MUS

[RBW] Re: All American Roadeo

The OP merely inquired if it was possible to assemble an all-USA bike. Divergences into supporting current US manufacturers, and determining the source of materials that go into a MUSA product, are pretty far beyond his question. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the G

[RBW] Re: All American Roadeo

I don't think anything is really 100% made in the USA, most stuff is imported and then assembled here. I think it is awesome to buy MUSA though, even if they are assembling the stuff it still creates jobs. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owner

[RBW] Re: All American Roadeo

There is a Paul front derailleur on eBay right now - http://tinyurl.com/7t6qqph Part of the clamp is missing. No affiliation with the seller. Have also tossed around the idea a few times of a U.S. sourced bike. Never have followed up on it. Do have US parts, but nothing cohesive. For handlebars

[RBW] Re: All American Roadeo

I think Kevin knew that, but thought it would be awesome to make a wisecrack. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/pqABzP4AXKYJ. To post

[RBW] Re: All American Roadeo

It seems the point is to buy from extant US manufacturers when possible, but to try to find vintage US-made stuff otherwise. On Thursday, December 22, 2011 1:00:04 PM UTC-5, Kevin M wrote: > > I'm not sure how buying NIB or NOS items off ebay actually helps US > manufacturers. > -- You r

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I'm not sure how buying NIB or NOS items off ebay actually helps US manufacturers. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/kb-W_iw8VscJ. T

Re: [RBW] Re: All American Roadeo

Those rasta mechs are crazy-money. My NIB Proshift was listed at 500, but I ended up doing the deal with the seller locally for 250. It's black, not my first choice, but it looks good on my light green AHH. The other colors probably would have sold for more; I'd love to find a silver one. -- Y

Re: [RBW] Re: All American Roadeo

I was bidding briefly on a set of Paul Rasta-colored derailleurs on eBay (because every soon to be 59 year old needs a set of Rasta derailleurs!), but it quickly got way too expensive for me. The final price was well over $1000, IIRC. On Dec 21, 2011, at 3:17 PM, "Joe Bernard" <

[RBW] Re: All American Roadeo

I've been enjoying this discussion, and have tried, unsuccessfully, 3x to join it. I'm a big supporter of buy local in all parts of my life and my bikes are mostly fitted with PW BB; White hubs & cranks, Paul's brakes, Cane Creek levers, HS (a great 1"HS BTW), thudbuster and a nice vintage Ame

[RBW] Re: All American Roadeo

Not to rain on your parade, but my guess is that at least the dropouts and the lugs are made in Taiwan, so you're already in the realm of "assembled in the US." Of course, you have to draw the line somewhere, and yours is a perfectly reasonable one. My impression is that American Classic has

[RBW] Re: All American Roadeo

Hey, I probably have the only Rivendell with an American derailer! That's cool. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/pDDAGA0QV5AJ. To po

[RBW] Re: All American Roadeo

I think this is a laudable goal and my Ram and tandem share it. But you do have to decide how much you are willing to sacrifice and whether it is really worth being a purist. I like Cane Creek, both as products and a company. They have mfg both on and off shore but without asking them directl

[RBW] Re: All American Roadeo

My Waterford AHH has a Precision Billet Proshift rear derailer. No luck finding the front derailer and twist shifters yet. If I got *that *far, the next step would be Paul centerpulls. You're right, this could become obscenely expensive! Joe Bernard Vallejo, CA. -- You received this message

[RBW] Re: All American Roadeo

Paul Brakes come with koolstop pads and hardware which I imagine might not be 100% MUSA. Also the hanger has historically been a generic one, and I imagine still is. All the bolts, also, Paul doesn't make. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Ow