Found it,
From: http://www.sheldonbrown.com/harris/rivendell/ahomerhilsen.html
"TUBING: Lightweight butted heat-treated CrMo steel. When Waterford makes
the frame, it's a mix of Reynolds and True Temper. When Toyo (in Japan)
makes the frame, it's Japanese tubing that is every bit as good at lea
Though I cant find where, I recall reading that if your bike came from
Japan it was made with Japanese tubes that were every bit as good but less
well known than the ones in US built bikes. But your best bet is to call
them up and ask, I expect they would be happy to oblige a proud owner who
wa
I'm wondering whether anyone has any insight into the tubing used in the
early years' Toyo edition of the AHH. I proudly own one.
Steve Cole
Arlington, VA
On Sunday, November 22, 2015 at 7:33:21 AM UTC-5, John Hawrylak wrote:
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> "The healing power of the bicycle a Rivendell
If I remember the post Benz alluded to, Grant said the Waterford, made to
order, bikes were a combination of TrueTemper and Reynolds tubing. It
kinda makes an identifying sticker useless, how many would you use where?
On Tuesday, November 24, 2015 at 11:54:40 PM UTC-5, ted wrote:
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http://rivbike.tumblr.com/post/3218082349/the-t-question-long-post-dry-reading
I think it's wrong to presume the absence of a tubing sticker on the AHH means
the tubes are just average.
The above blog post names the types of the various tubes in an AHH. They don't
sound just average to me, thoug
Benz concluded on the usefulness of the tubing sticker on the Sam
"Put another way, what good are these data going to do for the end-user?"
I agree, especially since it shows lower end tubing, which while fine for
the job at hand, could be stronger for no to little cost increase. I just
thought
This is the second smart thing Benz has said today. The other was his
remark about the helmet study.
On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 10:14 PM, Benz, Sunnyvale, CA
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> Finally, I think that Rivendell's new tubing sticker is tongue-in-cheek.
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Once upon a time, I read one of Grant's posting explaining why the
identification of tubing is not as important as what many will make it out
to be. Coming from a tradition of Italian racing bicycles, I cynically
disagreed then, but have since come around as I read more, and learned
more. There
Zach thanks for the reply. The % of elements indicate it is Cr-Moly 4130 steel, 1% Cr 0.2% Mo, is the major alloying elements giving the steel certain properties. In contrast, Reynolds 531 used Mangenese instead of Mo. The 2 values are the yield stress (used to design the frame) and ultimate tens
Actually, the sticker mentioned above, and that same sticker on my Sam, are
recent developments; I was surprised to find it when the frame arrived. Grant
has in fact repeatedly stressed the unimportant of specific tubing in a frame;
however, he does seem proud of these proprietary tubes.
I lik
If I recall correctly, Grant has suggested that
1) the cost of tubes is such a small fraction of the total cost of a
frame that it doesn't make any sense to try and save money there.
2) there is a lot more to a bike than the particular tubes it is made out
of, and that getting all wrapped up
Drew,
Thanks for the reply.
I would assume the same as you except for 2 thoughts
1. The AHH price may reflect the higher costs Waterford (or any American
shop) has. It may NOT reflect higher grade tubing costs, Although one
would think the AHH uses "better (higher strength)" tubin
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