[RBW] Re: 650B -Grand Bois Cypres tire

2009-06-22 Thread Rick
Thanks, that helps me visualize my issues. I do have the sidepulls, though, so there is an additional complication. Nice lighting set up, by the way. > > Yes.  Also BQ carries the 58mm Honjos, including a hammered version > > that Jitensha doesn't have.  Here > >http://www.flickr.com/photos/org

[RBW] Re: 650B -Grand Bois Cypres tire

2009-06-18 Thread palincss
Quoting clevewheel : > > I highly recommend the Hetre, although I have to admit to complete > lack of experience regarding the narrower tire. The Hetre has changed > the way I ride in that it gives so much more stability. Descent is no > longer a white knuckle affair, but a joy. It is a very fa

[RBW] Re: 650B -Grand Bois Cypres tire

2009-06-18 Thread GeorgeS
I am unfamiliar with Gorilla tape and Flataway. They're both adhesive tapes? Do they change the feel of the tires? What's the tradeoff? Thanks. GeorgeS On Jun 18, 9:06 am, clevewheel wrote: > With regard to puncture resistance, I highly recommend spending $4 on > a roll of one inch Gorilla ta

[RBW] Re: 650B -Grand Bois Cypres tire

2009-06-18 Thread clevewheel
I highly recommend the Hetre, although I have to admit to complete lack of experience regarding the narrower tire. The Hetre has changed the way I ride in that it gives so much more stability. Descent is no longer a white knuckle affair, but a joy. It is a very fast tire, depending only on the e

[RBW] Re: 650B -Grand Bois Cypres tire

2009-06-18 Thread clevewheel
With regard to puncture resistance, I highly recommend spending $4 on a roll of one inch Gorilla tape and applying it to the inside of the tire in the same way you'd apply the now very expensive Panaracer Flataway. I have it on my Hetres and it's doing a fine job. On Jun 13, 11:24 am, GeorgeS w

[RBW] Re: 650B -Grand Bois Cypres tire

2009-06-17 Thread palincss
Quoting palin...@his.com: > > Quoting Rick : > >> >> I've had the fatty rumpkins on for a couple of weeks now and have been >> enjoying them through some mixed trail/road business and my regular >> commute. Had to remove the fenders, mine were cut to accomodate the >> CdlVs, and were a smidgen t

[RBW] Re: 650B -Grand Bois Cypres tire

2009-06-17 Thread palincss
Quoting Rick : > > I've had the fatty rumpkins on for a couple of weeks now and have been > enjoying them through some mixed trail/road business and my regular > commute. Had to remove the fenders, mine were cut to accomodate the > CdlVs, and were a smidgen too small for the fatty's. So for rig

[RBW] Re: 650B -Grand Bois Cypres tire

2009-06-17 Thread Rick
I've had the fatty rumpkins on for a couple of weeks now and have been enjoying them through some mixed trail/road business and my regular commute. Had to remove the fenders, mine were cut to accomodate the CdlVs, and were a smidgen too small for the fatty's. So for right now, the bleriot is in

[RBW] Re: 650B -Grand Bois Cypres tire

2009-06-16 Thread Jan Heine
On Jun 16, 8:45 am, Seth Vidal wrote: > I hope I didn't come across wrong, I don't doubt your explanation, I > was just hopeful that perhaps someone on this list had enough of a > connection to someone at grand bois to float the idea of a 700c hetre > by them. I have asked them. The answer is

[RBW] Re: 650B -Grand Bois Cypres tire

2009-06-16 Thread Seth Vidal
On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 11:27 AM, Jan Heine wrote: > > On Jun 16, 7:23 am, Seth Vidal wrote: >  The explanation that Jan gave as to why there >> is no 700c version of the hetre is the lack of bikes that can take a >> 700x42 tire. Given that a lot of 700c riv riders can take a 42mm tire >> I wonde

[RBW] Re: 650B -Grand Bois Cypres tire

2009-06-16 Thread Jan Heine
On Jun 16, 7:23 am, Seth Vidal wrote: The explanation that Jan gave as to why there > is no 700c version of the hetre is the lack of bikes that can take a > 700x42 tire. Given that a lot of 700c riv riders can take a 42mm tire > I wonder if there is enough of a market to justify a 700c hetre. I

[RBW] Re: 650B -Grand Bois Cypres tire

2009-06-16 Thread Seth Vidal
On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 10:17 AM, Patrick in VT wrote: > > On Jun 16, 8:58 am, Timothy Whalen wrote: >> I ride the Fatty Rumpkins a lot on my Bleriot, agree with the coments about >> them, and have wondered about the Hetres.  Which of the two is best for >> mostly dirt roads would you think?< >

[RBW] Re: 650B -Grand Bois Cypres tire

2009-06-16 Thread Patrick in VT
On Jun 16, 8:58 am, Timothy Whalen wrote: > I ride the Fatty Rumpkins a lot on my Bleriot, agree with the coments about > them, and have wondered about the Hetres.  Which of the two is best for > mostly dirt roads would you think?< what makes the hetre unique is that it can rightly be consider

[RBW] Re: 650B -Grand Bois Cypres tire

2009-06-16 Thread Timothy Whalen
I ride the Fatty Rumpkins a lot on my Bleriot, agree with the coments about them, and have wondered about the Hetres. Which of the two is best for mostly dirt roads would you think? Why? Tim On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 12:08 AM, JL wrote: > > I have to agree about the Fatty Rumpkins. They are gre

[RBW] Re: 650B -Grand Bois Cypres tire

2009-06-15 Thread JL
I have to agree about the Fatty Rumpkins. They are great tires. I switch between them and Hetres on my Saluki - depending oh how much time I am spending off paved roads. They are similar enough in size that either pair fits underneath my fenders with the same fender line. Hetres are, hands dow

[RBW] Re: 650B -Grand Bois Cypres tire

2009-06-15 Thread franklyn
It's interesting that Fatty Rumpkins don't get much discussion attention when people talk about 650b general purpose tires. I have had them for 4 months and 1000 miles on my commuter and not a single problem. They measure fairly close to the hetre in width on synergy rims (40mm) and they are fairl

[RBW] Re: 650B -Grand Bois Cypres tire

2009-06-15 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Mon, 2009-06-15 at 15:46 -0700, Gino Zahnd wrote: > Well if one were budget-minded or budget-impaired, one could purchase > plush 650b tires for less than $20 (CDLV). They don't offer the same > performance, but they do get you there in comfort, and last this side > of forever. It's mostly that

[RBW] Re: 650B -Grand Bois Cypres tire

2009-06-15 Thread Gino Zahnd
Well if one were budget-minded or budget-impaired, one could purchase plush 650b tires for less than $20 (CDLV). They don't offer the same performance, but they do get you there in comfort, and last this side of forever. It's mostly that context that I was speaking to. Cheers, Gino On Mon, Jun

[RBW] Re: 650B -Grand Bois Cypres tire

2009-06-15 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Sun, 2009-06-14 at 22:58 -0700, Gino Zahnd wrote: > In my experience, the Cypres was very prone to puncture. I had more > than one flat for every 100 miles I rode with that tire. In my book, > that is completely unacceptable. > > On the other hand, I've been riding the Hetre on my Saluki for >

[RBW] Re: 650B -Grand Bois Cypres tire

2009-06-15 Thread palincss
Quoting Jan Heine : > > On smooth paved roads, the difference between the Hetre (650B x 40 mm > actual) and the Cypres (650B x 30 mm actual) is minimal. Once the > roads get rough, the Hetre absorbs bigger bumps (expansion joints, > frost heaves, chipseal, potholes) better. On unpaved roads, the

[RBW] Re: 650B -Grand Bois Cypres tire

2009-06-15 Thread David Estes
On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 7:30 AM, Jan Heine wrote: {snip} > And I can keep going when the pavement ends. > > Jan Heine > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ > And that in a nutshell is what it's all about!

[RBW] Re: 650B -Grand Bois Cypres tire

2009-06-15 Thread Jan Heine
On smooth paved roads, the difference between the Hetre (650B x 40 mm actual) and the Cypres (650B x 30 mm actual) is minimal. Once the roads get rough, the Hetre absorbs bigger bumps (expansion joints, frost heaves, chipseal, potholes) better. On unpaved roads, the Cypres is fine, but the Hetre i

[RBW] Re: 650B -Grand Bois Cypres tire

2009-06-15 Thread palincss
Quoting Patrick in VT : > > On Jun 11, 11:18 am, "Rocky.Bondad" > wrote: >> Gosh I'm still undecided if I should get the Cypres or the Hetres >> for my wife's Bleriot.  She mainly rides on the weekends and I want >> to get her nice comfy fast tires.  I hear so many great reviews >> for

[RBW] Re: 650B -Grand Bois Cypres tire

2009-06-15 Thread Patrick in VT
On Jun 11, 11:18 am, "Rocky.Bondad" wrote: > Gosh I'm still undecided if I should get the Cypres or the Hetres for my > wife's Bleriot.  She mainly rides on the weekends and I want to get her nice > comfy fast tires.  I hear so many great reviews for both Grand Bois tires.< If she weighs aroun

[RBW] Re: 650B -Grand Bois Cypres tire

2009-06-14 Thread Gino Zahnd
In my experience, the Cypres was very prone to puncture. I had more than one flat for every 100 miles I rode with that tire. In my book, that is completely unacceptable. On the other hand, I've been riding the Hetre on my Saluki for >500 miles now, and have yet to flat, even with a good amount of

[RBW] Re: 650B -Grand Bois Cypres tire

2009-06-14 Thread Jan Heine
Thanks, John, for the correction. Regarding Bicycle Quarterly's tire tests, the statistical analysis of our results showed that the differences we found were real, not some artifacts of changes in conditions or in rider position. Anybody who wants to criticize the results of the tests needs to lo

[RBW] Re: 650B -Grand Bois Cypres tire

2009-06-14 Thread Rocky.Bondad
Gosh I'm still undecided if I should get the Cypres or the Hetres for my wife's Bleriot. She mainly rides on the weekends and I want to get her nice comfy fast tires. I hear so many great reviews for both Grand Bois tires. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this

[RBW] Re: 650B -Grand Bois Cypres tire

2009-06-13 Thread GeorgeS
I'm now riding GB Cypres on my Rambouilett. The best feel of any clincher I've ever ridden. Seems to me comparable to the way a good more robust tubular like a Clement Paris-Robaix used to feel. But that's so long ago and my memory is so bad that my credibility is, as they say in court, "suspec