[RBW] My Debate

2016-12-12 Thread Bill Lindsay
What debate? The obvious answer is both. The L'Avecaise is not a bike packing bike. It's a cyclotouring bike at most. The Riv model it most resembles would be a Roadeo. If you want a real touring bike or a bike packing bike, the Lyon is not necessarily that. But if you want a light flexible ro

[RBW] My Debate

2016-12-12 Thread Matt Gilkey
I have owned a 56 cm Atlantis and I currently own a Jeff Lyon L'avecaise. I loved the Atlantis and primarily used it as a mountain bike. If I were forced to own only one bike I would have to pick the Atlantis for it's versatility. That being said I absolutely love my L'avecaise, and will never

[RBW] My Debate

2016-12-12 Thread Ian A
A Riv and an L'Avecaise will be significantly contrasting frames. L'Avecaise having the flexible tubing that can give such a nice feel. The trail numbers also contrast massively. If you want an American handcrafted, low trail, randonneur style bicycle, the Jeff Lyon option clearly is most suit

[RBW] My Debate

2016-12-12 Thread Bill in Roswell GA
The little devil on my shoulder awoke when I saw that Jeff Lyon wants to move some L'Avecaise frames out with fork and headset (customer gets to pick the single, solid paint color). I'd been thinking Riv for years, but never justified pulling the trigger (I'm pretty happy with my stable, but I'