Re: [RBW] Grant refers to this helmet guy for some reason

2011-03-16 Thread Kelly Sleeper
I think style of riding is important as well. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 16, 2011, at 11:10 AM, Jan Heine wrote: >> to get people on bicycles, you don't want to force them to wear a helmet >> and imply that they are doing something more dangerous than driving. > > The same arguments were made

Re: [RBW] Grant refers to this helmet guy for some reason

2011-03-16 Thread Anne Paulson
I could not disagree more. We need good data. Far too often the discussion devolves to, "Well I work in a hospital and we see lots of cyclists with head injuries," (yes, but you don't see the cyclists who ride around for years never getting head injuries) versus, "I've ridden around for years and g

Re: [RBW] Grant refers to this helmet guy for some reason

2011-03-16 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Wed, 2011-03-16 at 08:10 -0800, Jan Heine wrote: > > to get people on bicycles, you don't want to force them to wear a helmet > > and imply that they are doing something more dangerous than driving. > > The same arguments were made when Preston Tucker wanted to include > seatbelts in his car

Re: [RBW] Grant refers to this helmet guy for some reason

2011-03-16 Thread Seth Vidal
On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 11:29 AM, PATRICK MOORE wrote: > I strongly disagree with Seth here -- no offense meant, but BQ could do a > very great service to the debate, which won't go away. > I think there is no such thing as 'service to the debate'. I do not think the undecided are reading BQ and

Re: [RBW] Grant refers to this helmet guy for some reason

2011-03-16 Thread PATRICK MOORE
I strongly disagree with Seth here -- no offense meant, but BQ could do a very great service to the debate, which won't go away. On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 9:20 AM, Seth Vidal wrote: > On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 12:10 PM, Jan Heine wrote: > > > > At Bicycle Quarterly, we are considering looking at th

Re: [RBW] Grant refers to this helmet guy for some reason

2011-03-16 Thread PATRICK MOORE
This kind of analysis, even of existing statistical data, would greatly help set the record straight about (1) the danger of cycling and (2) the protective usefulness of helmets -- the questions are related but different. I would very much like to see it. I base my own abandonment of helmets partl

Re: [RBW] Grant refers to this helmet guy for some reason

2011-03-16 Thread Seth Vidal
On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 12:10 PM, Jan Heine wrote: > > At Bicycle Quarterly, we are considering looking at the statistics and > figuring out whether helmets make riding safer, whether risk compensation > really is a factor, etc. I believe there is a need for real data, rather > than opinion, on th

Re: [RBW] Grant refers to this helmet guy for some reason

2011-03-16 Thread Jan Heine
to get people on bicycles, you don't want to force them to wear a helmet and imply that they are doing something more dangerous than driving. The same arguments were made when Preston Tucker wanted to include seatbelts in his cars. His board thought it implied that Tucker cars were unsafe. (

Re: [RBW] Grant refers to this helmet guy for some reason

2011-03-15 Thread David Faller
Oh, can't we just talk about rake/trail or toe clip overlap instead... On 3/15/2011 5:03 PM, eflayer wrote: not sure what the points of view are, but this guy, to me, is an hot air baloonfull of hot air. Not even considering his point of view about helmets, just how arrrogant he sounds/is:

[RBW] Grant refers to this helmet guy for some reason

2011-03-15 Thread eflayer
not sure what the points of view are, but this guy, to me, is an hot air baloonfull of hot air. Not even considering his point of view about helmets, just how arrrogant he sounds/is: http://video.tedxcopenhagen.dk/video/911034/mikael-colville-andersen -- You received this message because you