Re: [RBW] Complaints about bad roads

2012-08-05 Thread Anne Paulson
I'm 5'8", and four of the five guys were shorter than I am. I'm guessing the short guys were in the 150 pound range. We started out the ride as a loaded tour, but three weeks in, there was a revolt because the majority of us thought the ride was just too hard. So Adventure Cycling ended up sending

Re: [RBW] Complaints about bad roads

2012-08-05 Thread Peter Pesce
On a related note, how big we're your riding companions? The popular online tire drop calculator indicates 85 psi in a 37mm rear tire for a 225 lb rider with 75 lbs of bike and gear. My LHT actually rides much nicer with a good load on it. I always assumed it did so because that's what's it was

[RBW] Complaints about bad roads

2012-08-05 Thread arthur strum
On Aug 5, 2012, at 4:05 PM, rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com wrote: > Anne Paulson Aug 05 01:16PM -0700 > > > What tire pressure are they using? > > That's my guess, that they were inflating their tires too much. But > the bizarre thing is that my suggestions that they reduce their tire >

Re: [RBW] Complaints about bad roads

2012-08-05 Thread John Blish
Hi Ann, Them simply complaining about the dirt roads is not enough to get an answer to your question. Find out what it is about riding off pavement that bothers them? Know what I mean? Saddle discomfort, neck and shoulder strain, feeling of being less in control, requires too much attention to

Re: [RBW] Complaints about bad roads

2012-08-05 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Sun, 2012-08-05 at 13:16 -0700, Anne Paulson wrote: > > What tire pressure are they using? > > That's my guess, that they were inflating their tires too much. But > the bizarre thing is that my suggestions that they reduce their tire > pressure went unheeded. They imagined that they would go f

Re: [RBW] Complaints about bad roads

2012-08-05 Thread PATRICK MOORE
I believe you, and even sympathize. Would have liked to participate vicariously via photos, though. Anecdote: once, long, long ago in a galaxy far, far away, on a cross-country auto trip with four guys (biggish) in a 1972 Toyta Celica (small), we'd rotate drivers every 2 hours, clockwise. One guy

Re: [RBW] Complaints about bad roads

2012-08-05 Thread Anne Paulson
> > Can you post photos of your tour? I don't take photos. I love seeing other people's pictures of tours, but I don't take pictures myself. (So I guess I can't prove the tour happened.) -- -- Anne Paulson My hovercraft is full of eels -- You received this message because you are subscribed t

Re: [RBW] Complaints about bad roads

2012-08-05 Thread Anne Paulson
> What tire pressure are they using? That's my guess, that they were inflating their tires too much. But the bizarre thing is that my suggestions that they reduce their tire pressure went unheeded. They imagined that they would go faster with harder tires, though I think that's incorrect on roads

Re: [RBW] Complaints about bad roads

2012-08-05 Thread Ken Mattina
My guess is that they don't like riding on rough roads. I know plenty of people who would rather die than ride on a gravel road. Me, as long as I'm riding my bike I don't care. On Sun, Aug 5, 2012 at 1:00 PM, Steve Palincsar wrote: > On Sun, 2012-08-05 at 12:57 -0700, Anne Paulson wrote: >> I'm

Re: [RBW] Complaints about bad roads

2012-08-05 Thread PATRICK MOORE
I get acceptably comfortable tire performance from skinny, little 650Cx22 mm Michelin Pro Race 3s (or whatever) at roughly 85/90 under my 175 lb on smooth-down-to-mediocre roads. The 559X32 mm Kojaks on another bike are extremely plush at 50/60, 55/65 or so under grocery loads. My fattest, 60+ mm B

Re: [RBW] Complaints about bad roads

2012-08-05 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Sun, 2012-08-05 at 12:57 -0700, Anne Paulson wrote: > I'm at a loss to understand what I'm missing. This was a loaded tour. > I was riding my Atlantis with 26 x 1.5 Panaracer Paselas, which should > be comfortable tires, by my companions were riding fine touring bikes > (Surly LHT, Co-Motion Ame

[RBW] Complaints about bad roads

2012-08-05 Thread Anne Paulson
I just last week got back from a 2500 mile tour, Mexico to Canada via the Sierra and the Cascades. Once again, as often happens, my riding companions sometimes complained that about rough roads. And once again, in the main I didn't notice the roads being rough, although the dirt detours that I too