Re: [RBW] Cleland Cycles

2017-04-07 Thread Patrick Moore
Meant to say also that I doubt very much that Grant was inspired by Cleland; Cleland was such a niche builder and his bikes are radically (at the root) different from Rivendells, in original geography as well as riding conditions and history of builders. No long chainstays on the Clelands! On Fri,

Re: [RBW] Cleland Cycles

2017-04-07 Thread Patrick Moore
He's been around since the 1960s apparently, and I think he's not better known because his bikes are very particular to his environment and riding style -- slow mud bogging; look at that bottom bracket! But very interesting and it's gratifying to know he's still at it. I think he was the one who d

Re: [RBW] Cleland Cycles

2017-04-07 Thread Matt B.
They still have paperboys where I live, except they drive their routes shitty cars now. On Friday, April 7, 2017 at 7:49:18 AM UTC-4, Jim S. wrote: > > This makes me want to quit my job and become a paperboy. Except that we > don't have paperboys anymore. And then I couldn't afford to buy these

Re: [RBW] Cleland Cycles

2017-04-07 Thread Jim S.
This makes me want to quit my job and become a paperboy. Except that we don't have paperboys anymore. And then I couldn't afford to buy these bikes on a paperboy salary. On Friday, April 7, 2017 at 6:04:40 AM UTC-5, Eric Daume wrote: > > Google "paperboy bikes" and you'll see a lot of old bikes

Re: [RBW] Cleland Cycles

2017-04-07 Thread Eric Daume
Google "paperboy bikes" and you'll see a lot of old bikes with a secondary top tube like that. Kona also made a retro mtb model (the Humuhumu) with something similar years ago. Eric On Fri, Apr 7, 2017 at 6:15 AM, Jim S. wrote: > So I came across these bikes: > > > > https://clelandcycles.wordp

[RBW] Cleland Cycles

2017-04-07 Thread Jim S.
So I came across these bikes: https://clelandcycles.wordpress.com/history/ I wonder if Rosco's V.1 and 2 are inspired by the triangle double-top tube? I hadn't seen it until I saw the Rosco. Concededly, the short wheel base and chainstays are un-Rosco like. -- You received this message be