Re: [RBW] Re: 2024 Frame Schedule

2024-01-11 Thread Jason Fuller
Yeah! Despite following the Charlie development perhaps more closely than anyone outside Riv HQ for the longest time, it's changed a bunch and I've kind of lost the pulse on what makes it unique in the lineup. I used to think it was going to be the evolution of the Roadini but it seems to be s

[RBW] Re: New Jewelry for my Platypus

2024-01-11 Thread Joe Bernard
That rose is so pretty. I grant your swanky new Paul brakes my highest praise, they're RIDICULOUS On Thursday, January 11, 2024 at 5:28:30 PM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote: > I have never had Paul anything. I’ve had whatever brakes and levers came > with my bikes and didn’t think a

Re: [RBW] Re: Feeler: ISO extra-small 26er?

2024-01-11 Thread Patrick Moore
Note that 571 X 23 and 559 X 23 are easily swappable with mid- or slightly longer reach (centerpull) brakes -- even short reach calipers if the mounting holes are happily placed -- as the difference in radius is only 6 mm or slightly less than 1/4". On Thu, Jan 11, 2024 at 5:39 PM J L wrote: > W

Re: [RBW] Re: 2024 Frame Schedule

2024-01-11 Thread m f
I am intrigued by the Charlie Gallop. The random photos I’ve seen so far make it look like a road, path, , rail trail cruiser that I need. On Thursday, January 11, 2024 at 10:17:49 PM UTC-6 brok...@gmail.com wrote: > Jason, I 100% agree with you on the Joe vs. Atlantis, and the void in > Riv’s

Re: [RBW] Re: 2024 Frame Schedule

2024-01-11 Thread Brian Turner
Jason, I 100% agree with you on the Joe vs. Atlantis, and the void in Riv’s lineup for a classic-styled roadish tourer (which is why I think so many folks are searching for early era Atlantis frames these days - I’m glad to have found one this past year). I’m not a fan of what the Atlantis has evol

[RBW] Re: Low q, low range 2x cranks

2024-01-11 Thread 'John Hawrylak, Woodstown NJ' via RBW Owners Bunch
VO has a 50.4mm BCD crank in 46-30, but you can use TA rings to get what you want. Their spec is a 144mm Q on a 116mm symmetric BB with a 43.5 FCL (per email from VO). However, John Thruston in AK told me he achieved a 141.5mm Q with a 110mm BB, indicating the VO spec is 3.5mm optimistic (th

[RBW] Re: 2024 Frame Schedule

2024-01-11 Thread Jason Fuller
Word is the Sam is unchanged from previous batches, geometry-wise, which is wonderful news as Sam is perfect. No plans to pick up anything this year, in fact it's my fourth annual "no new bikes" resolution which has failed three times thus far. I am a big fan of the new Susie's combination of

Re: [RBW] Advantages of triple drivetrains (VO post)

2024-01-11 Thread Jason Fuller
Footnote: I do love the 10t jump compared to the 14-16t also, but with the aforementioned gears I don't front shift often enough that it's a big deal. For 9s I would run what I already mentioned, but if going to 11s I would bump up to a 11-42 cassette, now that the jumps are reasonable, and s

Re: [RBW] Re: New Jewelry for my Platypus

2024-01-11 Thread Steve
Oh my! OH MY!!! This is going to advance your bike to a whole new level of cool (and I mean that in the best possible way). Please, promise us all some pictures once you have it back home. And your whole experience - just wonderful! I'm a bit of a Paul fanboy and now I have a rationale for li

Re: [RBW] Re: New Jewelry for my Platypus

2024-01-11 Thread Jason Fuller
SO COOL! I can't wait to see it all installed. Really love the color. On Thursday 11 January 2024 at 17:56:52 UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote: > Big time APPROVE?! I have seen APPROVE before from Bill Lindsay but I > don’t think there has been Big time APPROVE. > > This is an honor! I sh

Re: [RBW] Advantages of triple drivetrains (VO post)

2024-01-11 Thread Jason Fuller
Admittedly I skimmed (at best) this rather lengthy thread, but wanted to chime in and agree with these points which have undoubtedly been made: 1. A typical triple's benefit is that it usually means a lot less front shifting compared to a double, even though that's a bit counter-intuitive. A t

Re: [RBW] Re: New Jewelry for my Platypus

2024-01-11 Thread Leah Peterson
Big time APPROVE?! I have seen APPROVE before from Bill Lindsay but I don’t think there has been Big time APPROVE. This is an honor! I should get a tee shirt made. A tattoo. Something.♥️💃🙏LeahOn Jan 11, 2024, at 8:50 PM, Bill Lindsay wrote:That's very good stuff right there.  Big time APPROVEBL i

[RBW] Re: New Jewelry for my Platypus

2024-01-11 Thread Bill Lindsay
That's very good stuff right there. Big time APPROVE BL in EC On Thursday, January 11, 2024 at 5:28:30 PM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote: > I have never had Paul anything. I’ve had whatever brakes and levers came > with my bikes and didn’t think any more about it. I did get my VO brake

[RBW] Re: New Jewelry for my Platypus

2024-01-11 Thread John Rinker
Wow, that raspberry Platy is going to be even more gorgeous! (Like that's even possible.) Enjoy the blizzard! Cheers, John On Thursday, January 11, 2024 at 5:28:30 PM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote: > I have never had Paul anything. I’ve had whatever brakes and levers came > with my bik

Re: [RBW] Advantages of triple drivetrains (VO post)

2024-01-11 Thread Steve
So far I 've not noted anyone else posting my particular combination of integers; 44-34-24 on a Velocity Orange triple. It started out with a 48t big ring, but my late 90s XT rear derailleur couldn't quite deal with the 48x36 cross chained combination. I'm smart just enough to know that I'm dum

Re: [RBW] Re: Feeler: ISO extra-small 26er?

2024-01-11 Thread J L
While all the bikes OP listed are great vehicles, none of them fit the brief. If the brief is “Lighter, more roadish, with drop bars…” for someone 5’ in height, I would look for used Georgina Terry bikes. Terry is an accomplished and innovative bicycle designer and frame builder. She builds cust

Re: [RBW] Re: Who’s getting a Platypus tomorrow?

2024-01-11 Thread Steve
Tio - I meant to ask about the bag -- Inverted MTB portage bag? On Thursday, January 11, 2024 at 7:18:31 PM UTC-5 Steve wrote: > Tio, you've got yourself a good looking Platypus there!!! It's always > nice to see another Man On A Mixte. Enjoy!!! > > Steve > Platypus > Ritchey Outback > Samps

Re: [RBW] Re: Who’s getting a Platypus tomorrow?

2024-01-11 Thread Steve
Tio, you've got yourself a good looking Platypus there!!! It's always nice to see another Man On A Mixte. Enjoy!!! Steve Platypus Ritchey Outback Sampson Silverton 650b conversion On Thursday, January 11, 2024 at 12:38:44 PM UTC-5 tio ryan wrote: > After years of admiration, I finally talked

Re: [RBW] Re: Who’s getting a Platypus tomorrow?

2024-01-11 Thread Leah Peterson
Welcome to the Platypus Club, friend! It is great to hear how well the bike is working out for you and reading about the Riv magic you’re experiencing. I really have not found the weakness of the Platypus. It’s pretty perfect. I like your modifications, as well. It will be enjoyable to watch you ch

Re: [RBW] Re: Feeler: ISO extra-small 26er?

2024-01-11 Thread Ian A
Perhaps this RH journal post would give a bit more context https://www.renehersecycles.com/performance-is-important-for-slow-riders-too/ Either way, a well written article invoking wonder in the reader. So many beautiful places to explore in this world. IanA On Thursday, January 11, 2024 at

Re: [RBW] Re: Feeler: ISO extra-small 26er?

2024-01-11 Thread Patrick Moore
She is the one; Thanks. I have 1 or 2 photos of her riding gravel on Elk Passes on her custom -- Path hunter? All rounder? Country bike? a Jobstian "road bike is all you need"? -- bicycle with Elk passes; copied largely for her perfect hoods riding position; but those photos are on another computer

Re: [RBW] headset indexing?

2024-01-11 Thread Patrick Moore
Applies to loose ball headsets only, as others have indicated. Cartridge bearing hs's seems to last forever at least with a bit of care in initial bearing pre-load. On Thu, Jan 11, 2024 at 3:44 PM Patrick Moore wrote: > To get more use out of an indexed hs, try rotating the top bearing cup. > Th

Re: [RBW] headset indexing?

2024-01-11 Thread Patrick Moore
To get more use out of an indexed hs, try rotating the top bearing cup. The old loose ball Dura Ace headset I had on one my my nice mountain bikes started indexing, and I fixed it by rotating the top bearing cup by 90* and carefully re-adjusting bearing load. I daresay that the problem was caused b

Re: [RBW] Re: Feeler: ISO extra-small 26er?

2024-01-11 Thread Ian A
Hi Partick, That would be Natsuko Hirose I believe (I could be wrong and normally am). https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Bqn2MZJw9-Q&pp=ygUZQWxsIHJvYWQgY3ljbGluZyBpbiBqYXBhbg%3D%3D IanA On Thursday, January 11, 2024 at 3:06:29 PM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote: +1 for an XO-?-type bike; if a custom al

Re: [RBW] Re: Why do some bikes just feel consistently faster?

2024-01-11 Thread Patrick Moore
Oh, one more tangentially related remark: The best bikers I've owned for rear load carrying have had light and flexy frames; most notably the 1973 Motobecane Grand Record whose frame felt so light compared to that 2003 Riv Curt custom and was noticeably more flexible. The flexy-flyer early -ed Rale

Re: [RBW] Re: Why do some bikes just feel consistently faster?

2024-01-11 Thread Patrick Moore
I'm sure weight makes a difference; I'm not convinced it makes all the difference since I've had at least a couple of bikes that consistently felt "faster" despite weighing 10 or 12+ lbs more than the 1999. I expect as others have said that it is a happy coincidence of weight, flex, tires, fit, and

Re: [RBW] Re: Feeler: ISO extra-small 26er?

2024-01-11 Thread Patrick Moore
+1 for an XO-?-type bike; if a custom all the better since the XO-1, at least, and I daresay the other XOs, was very capable of improvement. I would wonder whether a Long Haul Trucker is overbuilt for someone so small. The principal liability of a wheel size other than 700C is the number and type

Re: [RBW] Re: Feeler: ISO extra-small 26er?

2024-01-11 Thread luckyturnip
Oooh yeah the Neutrino mini Velo! So many build options with that! On Jan 11, 2024, at 13:39, Garth wrote:A Soma Buena Vista rim brake or disc come in 42cm size and 26" wheels !https://www.somafabshop.com/shop/category/frames-frame-parts-bicycles-frames-990VO has this one :https://velo-orange.com

[RBW] Re: Why do some bikes just feel consistently faster?

2024-01-11 Thread Mike Godwin
I recall "reynoldslugs" (Max Beach) on the ibob list positing thin/slim seat stays add to the effect of a bike feeling fast, or least adding to the swing effect when pedaling. I tend to agree with him on that when comparing my Lemond Zurich and mid-70s Bob Jackson to say a Roadeo. But, the larg

[RBW] Re: Feeler: ISO extra-small 26er?

2024-01-11 Thread Garth
A Soma Buena Vista rim brake or disc come in 42cm size and 26" wheels ! https://www.somafabshop.com/shop/category/frames-frame-parts-bicycles-frames-990 VO has this one : https://velo-orange.com/collections/neutrino-mini-velo/products/neutrino-minivelo On Thursday, January 11, 2024 at 3:54:30

[RBW] Re: 2024 Frame Schedule

2024-01-11 Thread iamkeith
I admittedly parse these things to heavily, but the thing that struck me was the comma between Charlie Gallop and nu model. I assume that refers to the Charlie itself, but that barely feels new anymore. Could there be something else we don't know about on the horizon, or was this a punctuati

[RBW] 2024 Frame Schedule

2024-01-11 Thread Drew Fitchette
Saw this in the last email: - February - Clems - March - Lugged Susies - kind of a new model - April - Roaduno bikes and frames - new model - May - Sam Hillbornes - June - Appaloosas - July - Platypus bikes and frames - August - Charlie Gallop, nu model, bikes and frames, mor

[RBW] Re: Feeler: ISO extra-small 26er?

2024-01-11 Thread Coal Bee Rye Anne
Nothing to offer for sale, unfortunately, but I would add a small Salsa Vaya 2 to your list (I don;t know the exact year range where the smallest all took 26" wheels but this is the one I recall specifically looking at: 2015 Vaya 2 | Salsa Cycles

[RBW] Re: FS; Pile o’ parts! Dyno wheel, lights, brooks, nitto etc

2024-01-11 Thread 'joe kelly' via RBW Owners Bunch
Shifters pending On Thursday, January 11, 2024 at 10:18:11 AM UTC-5 joe kelly wrote: > [image: image.jpg] > > On Thursday, January 11, 2024 at 10:12:39 AM UTC-5 joe kelly wrote: > >> Update >> The Quickbeam ff/hs/bb has sold along with the crank, the original >> wheels, post and the 5sp rear whe

[RBW] Re: Feeler: ISO extra-small 26er?

2024-01-11 Thread Dave S
I have a red 1993 XO-3 48cm kicking around here somewhere. I'm in NJ. On Thursday, January 11, 2024 at 12:46:08 PM UTC-5 Michael Morrissey wrote: > Hi Everyone, > > I'm thinking about getting a new bike for my wife. Currently, she has a > Trek FX. She likes it a lot, but I can't help but think

Re: [RBW] Re: Los Angeles Riv Ride

2024-01-11 Thread Armand Kizirian
I would recommend minimal singletrack to keep this ride as inclusive as possible. Not all Riv riders have extra wide tires / experience on dirt. (Not speaking for myself, I prefer dirt) Don't wanna scare anyone off! The more the merrier. Wasn't able to visit AllezLA as they were closed on Tues

[RBW] Re: Gravel King SK Nibs

2024-01-11 Thread Armand Kizirian
If it's not the actual tread you are talking about but the little hair strands of rubber, I would experiment with lightly passing a torch over the tire and see if that does the trick to remove them. Otherwise you can practice some patience and manually snip them all. Or simply, ride your bike.

Re: [RBW] Re: headset indexing?

2024-01-11 Thread Will Boericke
The headset cups have no effect on the workings of a sealed bearing headset (unlike loose bearing). They are just supports for the cartridges. So indexing would be inside the cartridge, if present. I don't know that I've ever felt a cartridge bearing index in any application. Gritty feeling, su

Re: [RBW] Re: headset indexing?

2024-01-11 Thread Richard Rose
Very interesting. A sealed bearing could never “index”, correct? Do my races look ok? Sent from my iPhoneOn Jan 11, 2024, at 1:32 PM, Will Boericke wrote:I'm glad I came across this, as I have a very stiff FSA headset on a frame that I thought was screwed up somehow.  No indexing feeling though.W

[RBW] Re: headset indexing?

2024-01-11 Thread Will Boericke
I'm glad I came across this, as I have a very stiff FSA headset on a frame that I thought was screwed up somehow. No indexing feeling though. Will On Thursday, January 11, 2024 at 1:29:30 PM UTC-5 Garth wrote: > If it's the stock FSA headset with cartridge bearings I was told by > someone at

[RBW] Re: Feeler: ISO extra-small 26er?

2024-01-11 Thread Will Boericke
I have a lovely 5'2" wife who is so attached to her 90s era Specialized Crossroads that she had me find her a replacement when the original was stolen. 700c wheels are not an issue for her on that frame and we just toured on it last summer. I have replaced everything on the frame with more mo

[RBW] Re: headset indexing?

2024-01-11 Thread Garth
If it's the stock FSA headset with cartridge bearings I was told by someone at Riv that they send them out tight and that's how they feel. I thought it was too tight also. I haven't ridden mine but you have yours so if it's smooth when riding, leave it be as it was. On Thursday, January 11, 202

[RBW] Re: FS; Pile o’ parts! Dyno wheel, lights, brooks, nitto etc

2024-01-11 Thread 'joe kelly' via RBW Owners Bunch
Campee rack sold. On Thursday, January 11, 2024 at 11:20:23 AM UTC-5 Howard Hatten wrote: > > PM sent > On Thursday, January 11, 2024 at 10:39:07 AM UTC-5 joe kelly wrote: > >> Update. Bars and stem sold! Fast! >> Dyno wheel is a SP SV-8 that I bought from Rivendell when they sold them. >> Laced

[RBW] Re: Feeler: ISO extra-small 26er?

2024-01-11 Thread George Schick
I used to have a wife who was 4' 10" and she was persuaded to jump from running into cycling by some friends (something I had tried to get her to do unsuccessfully for many years). She wound up with the smallest CF frame size road bike made with 700C wheels and it was an awkward looking and ha

Re: [RBW] Feeler: ISO extra-small 26er?

2024-01-11 Thread luckyturnip
I might be in the minority here but I had a 26" wheeled Long Haul Trucker and found it to be a tank. I didn't like it much for ...really anything. In comparison I have a 26" wheeled old short wheelbase Atlantis and like it very much both on and off road. (I also have a 26" wheeled step thru Hard Ro

Re: [RBW] Re: Roadini Feedback

2024-01-11 Thread Chris Fly
Hi Maggie, I sent you an email with some questions. Thanks! Chris On Monday, January 8, 2024 at 4:27:19 PM UTC-8 Maggie Zhou wrote: > I have contemplated selling my 50cm roadini that has a modern brifter > build (all Shimano 105). It's the first production batch circa 2017, so > only has sp

[RBW] Feeler: ISO extra-small 26er?

2024-01-11 Thread Michael Morrissey
Hi Everyone, I'm thinking about getting a new bike for my wife. Currently, she has a Trek FX. She likes it a lot, but I can't help but think it doesn't fit her right. She is 5 feet tall, yet the bike has 700x35 tires. The frame is small but I think it's crazy to have an extra-small bike with th

Re: [RBW] Advantages of triple drivetrains (VO post)

2024-01-11 Thread Joe Bernard
"Can those Ultegra triples be found in a square taper or are they all Octalink?" All Octalink. The previous gen 7/8-spd era Ultegra square taper (600 tri-color) were all doubles, if you search long and hard you can find 105 triples from that period but I don't think many were produced. Joe Be

[RBW] FS: Nitto 34f front rack 700c

2024-01-11 Thread scott minor
New condition with original unused hardware size: 700c wheels $175 shipped in lower 48 flickr photo here: https://flic.kr/p/2prSs8g located in VA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and sto

Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Rene Herse Oracle Ridge

2024-01-11 Thread Lance Terry
On its way Tom. I think they said Monday. Let me know if there are any issues. Thanks. LanceOn Jan 10, 2024, at 19:21, Lance Terry wrote:Tires are sold. Thanks TomOn Wednesday, January 10, 2024 at 5:56:04 PM UTC-7 Lance Terry wrote:Sorry for the weird formatting.On Wednesday, January 10, 2024 at

[RBW] Re: FS; Pile o’ parts! Dyno wheel, lights, brooks, nitto etc

2024-01-11 Thread Howard Hatten
PM sent On Thursday, January 11, 2024 at 10:39:07 AM UTC-5 joe kelly wrote: > Update. Bars and stem sold! Fast! > Dyno wheel is a SP SV-8 that I bought from Rivendell when they sold them. > Laced to a velocity twin hollow. Hand built here in Columbus at Baer > wheels. I am almost certain the sp

[RBW] Re: 5 Boro Bike Tour (was NYC Riv Ride?)

2024-01-11 Thread Joe in the Pay Area
Andy, Enjoy The Ride !!! You're about to experience one of the greatest cities in the world by pedaling it !!! Forget all the blather about this tire and that chainring and just be a kid again, on a bike, with lots of other bikes, and enjoy it. Go. Out. For. A. Ride. ("Mom? I'm goin' out on my

Re: [RBW] Re: Low q, low range 2x cranks

2024-01-11 Thread RichS
This has been a good refresher course on q factor. It has also been fun "window shopping" so many nice looking crank arm and chain ring setups. Thanks everyone! Best, Rich in ATL On Wednesday, January 10, 2024 at 9:40:03 PM UTC-5 Nick Payne wrote: > Middleburn (now BETD) also make what they cal

Re: [RBW] Advantages of triple drivetrains (VO post)

2024-01-11 Thread Will Boericke
The one I know of is 9s Octalink. I don't think there was a hollowtech version but happy to be corrected. You can get an earlier era 7s. RSX triple that's square taper. On Thu, Jan 11, 2024 at 10:05 AM Tim Bantham wrote: > Can those Ultegra triples be found in a square taper or are they all >

[RBW] Re: FS; Pile o’ parts! Dyno wheel, lights, brooks, nitto etc

2024-01-11 Thread 'joe kelly' via RBW Owners Bunch
Update. Bars and stem sold! Fast! Dyno wheel is a SP SV-8 that I bought from Rivendell when they sold them. Laced to a velocity twin hollow. Hand built here in Columbus at Baer wheels. I am almost certain the spokes are double butted, I can’t imagine I wouldn’t have sprung for that but it has be

[RBW] Re: FS; Pile o’ parts! Dyno wheel, lights, brooks, nitto etc

2024-01-11 Thread Tim Bantham
Hi Joe, Could you provide more detail on dyno wheel? Which dyno hub. Appears to be a SON28? Which rim is it? Spoke count?? Approximate mileage on it? Thank you! Tim On Thursday, January 11, 2024 at 10:23:56 AM UTC-5 joe kelly wrote: > Sorry for that clunkiness of this for sale post. The Goog

[RBW] Re: FS; Pile o’ parts! Dyno wheel, lights, brooks, nitto etc

2024-01-11 Thread 'joe kelly' via RBW Owners Bunch
Sorry for that clunkiness of this for sale post. The Google group machine seems especially cranky this morning and would not let me make one post with everything in it. Finally, extra special bonus for buyers of multiple items. First you will save a little on shipping, who doesn’t love that, b

[RBW] FS; Pile o’ parts! Dyno wheel, lights, brooks, nitto etc

2024-01-11 Thread 'joe kelly' via RBW Owners Bunch
Update The Quickbeam ff/hs/bb has sold along with the crank, the original wheels, post and the 5sp rear wheel. This leaves me with a pile o’ parts! I have sks fenders, downtube shifters on bar end pods, albatross bars, technomic stem, campee front rack, two wald baskets lg and sm, eyc front lig

Re: [RBW] Advantages of triple drivetrains (VO post)

2024-01-11 Thread Tim Bantham
Can those Ultegra triples be found in a square taper or are they all Octalink? On Wednesday, January 10, 2024 at 8:23:10 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote: > Ultegra 52x42x30 makes a nice compact double. Just remove the 52 (free) > and put a guard in its place ($15). Now you've got a 42x30 with the