[RBW] "Riding-a-bicycle Zen"

2022-02-11 Thread John Rinker
In a talk called "Zen Reconsidered" , Alan Watts relates a conversation he had with Horace Blyth about sitting meditation (zazen). Just a couple of Zen scholars shooting the breeze, I imagine. The gist, as I understand it, is that those who practice

Re: [RBW] Re: Heterodoxy — reconciling RBW with the mainstream

2022-02-11 Thread Peter Adler
More specifically, "bloody bike anorak"; BBA for short. Peter "the backdoor invasion of CR nomenclature" Adler Berkeley, CA/USA On Friday, February 11, 2022 at 10:37:20 AM UTC-8 Patrick Moore wrote: > The technical term is "anorak." > > Patrick Moore, who gets a kick out of old fashioned Brit sl

Re: [RBW] Re: Heterodoxy — reconciling RBW with the mainstream

2022-02-11 Thread brendonoid
Hans Rey, the legendary trials rider and lifetime GT salesman has a charity that donates bicycles to people in various poor areas. The sort of place where having a practical bicycle means you can hold down a stable job because you can commute 18kms now whereas you used

Re: [RBW] Re: Heterodoxy — reconciling RBW with the mainstream

2022-02-11 Thread Richard Rose
I concur! Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 11, 2022, at 5:12 PM, Doug H. wrote: > > It didn't take long for the attack on the OP and the defense of Grant. I > doubt Grant feels the need to be defended though. > Doug > >> On Friday, February 11, 2022 at 4:12:22 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote: >> I

[RBW] Platypus FD clamp size?

2022-02-11 Thread Drw
Can someone confirm the front derailleur clamp size for a platypus. I have a 28.6 which is definitely too small, so i assume it's 31.8. My calipers (which are admittedly not the best) measure it at 29.5, which isn't helpful. Want to make sure before buying. Thanks -- You received this messag

Re: [RBW] FS: 63cm Roadeo (at Westminster, MD Bike Swap 2/13)

2022-02-11 Thread Patrick Moore
Thanks, good to see the build, and again, very nice. On Thu, Feb 10, 2022 at 6:53 PM Austin B. wrote: > > @Patrick, > > It's the curse of the gangly-large frames--there just aren't that many riders > out there that can fit a 63cm frame. Basic supply & demand, right? It does > have one key blemi

Re: [RBW] Re: I'm a New Bike Commuter

2022-02-11 Thread Patrick Moore
Kudos. It's always nice to have your bike comfortably parked by your desk. And it's hard to beat Ortliebs for price/performance/durability, even looks. Patrick Moore, who works at home, but can sneak out for mid-afternoon rides in the bosque, as today. On Fri, Feb 11, 2022 at 4:59 PM Roberta wro

Re: [RBW] FS: 63cm Roadeo (at Westminster, MD Bike Swap 2/13)

2022-02-11 Thread Friend
PMed you! On Friday, February 11, 2022 at 3:38:24 PM UTC-5 Scott Calhoun wrote: > PM sent too just in case. I posted a WTB for a 63cm Roadeo on this list > ages ago. > > On Friday, February 11, 2022 at 12:20:44 AM UTC-7 exliontamer wrote: > >> Sent you a message. I've been looking for a 63cm! >

Re: [RBW] Introducing the Charlie H Gallop Protovelo

2022-02-11 Thread David Hays
I think it might have been OT post keeping a smile on my face. Sorry if I unintentionally entrapped him… David > On Feb 11, 2022, at 7:51 PM, Johnny Alien wrote: > > Pancake, so you got the third Gallop V1 prototype? > > On Friday, February 11, 2022 at 7:18:18 PM UTC-5 Pancake wrote: > Drop b

Re: [RBW] Introducing the Charlie H Gallop Protovelo

2022-02-11 Thread Johnny Alien
Pancake, so you got the third Gallop V1 prototype? On Friday, February 11, 2022 at 7:18:18 PM UTC-5 Pancake wrote: > Drop bar Sam checking in per David's request/comment ... soon to be > replaced by another Proto Charlie (photos of that orange 57cm to come > later). > [image: IMG_3134.JPG] > [i

Re: [RBW] Re: I'm a New Bike Commuter

2022-02-11 Thread Roberta
I'm finally set up and have been riding the entire week on my Platypus. I loved the days when I walked, but it is nice to leave the house later than I planned and still get to work earlier than expected. Even over the three weeks of manual daily commuting, I've already shortened my walk and ri

Re: [RBW] Introducing the Charlie H Gallop Protovelo

2022-02-11 Thread David Hays
Beautiful bike and build Jason. Love to see other Rivendell drop bar bikes. David Hays > On Feb 10, 2022, at 9:02 PM, Jason Fuller wrote: > > Introducing MY protovelo Charlie (54cm), if it's okay for me to join you in > this thread Johnny! > > Quick neighborhood ride today between meetings i

Re: [RBW] Re: Introducing the Charlie H Gallop Protovelo

2022-02-11 Thread Eric Marth
Phew wee! You must have a mighty nice parts cupboard! Looks great, glad to hear you're enjoying it so far :) On Friday, February 11, 2022 at 4:03:48 PM UTC-5 Jason Fuller wrote: > Eric - I certainly am of course! And trying to reprogram my brain for > rapid rise (didn't realize it was coming

[RBW] Re: WTB: Rivendell catalogs and readers

2022-02-11 Thread Eric Marth
I'm closing in! If you have any of the below items for sale please let me know. Thanks again :) Readers - #0 - #2 Catalog - Spring 2002 On Monday, November 29, 2021 at 4:14:53 PM UTC-5 Eric Marth wrote: > Hello everyone, I'm trying to fill in some gaps. If you are interested in >

Re: [RBW] Re: Altus!

2022-02-11 Thread Joe Bernard
Which btw screws up my big pulley timeline a bit. I'd forgotten this mech had that feature, it had *everything *Shimano was trying to talk the public into at the time including the rollamijig thing for the cable routing. On Friday, February 11, 2022 at 2:22:11 PM UTC-8 Joe Bernard wrote: > Shi

Re: [RBW] Re: Altus!

2022-02-11 Thread Joe Bernard
Shimano Nexave, RapidRise/high-normal. Grant has a stash of them and will put one on a complete build if you ask. It was a commuter/hybrid group offered with a 7-speed "MegaRange" freewheel in the late '90s. Joe Bernard On Friday, February 11, 2022 at 2:16:37 PM UTC-8 Johnny Alien wrote: > Sp

Re: [RBW] Re: Heterodoxy — reconciling RBW with the mainstream

2022-02-11 Thread Doug H.
It didn't take long for the attack on the OP and the defense of Grant. I doubt Grant feels the need to be defended though. Doug On Friday, February 11, 2022 at 4:12:22 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote: > I think what you described in your full-sus experience breaks down to "it > didn't beat the crap

Re: [RBW] Re: Heterodoxy — reconciling RBW with the mainstream

2022-02-11 Thread Joe Bernard
I think what you described in your full-sus experience breaks down to "it didn't beat the crap outta me and that was more fun." The conventional wisdom from the "it's too much technology" crowd is it allows one to go too fast on trails, but I contend there's a strong argument for not going too

Re: [RBW] FS: 63cm Roadeo (at Westminster, MD Bike Swap 2/13)

2022-02-11 Thread Scott Calhoun
PM sent too just in case. I posted a WTB for a 63cm Roadeo on this list ages ago. On Friday, February 11, 2022 at 12:20:44 AM UTC-7 exliontamer wrote: > Sent you a message. I've been looking for a 63cm! > > On Thursday, February 10, 2022 at 11:35:12 PM UTC-6 Collin A wrote: > >> Dang, if only i

Re: [RBW] ISO: 60 cm Platypus OR Cheviot

2022-02-11 Thread Johnny Alien
Your sleuthing skills must be top notch!! On Friday, February 11, 2022 at 1:23:04 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote: > We found her a 60 Cheviot, friends. Thank you so much for your help. > Anyone else needs a Rivendell mixte, message me! It’s my new thing. > > On Wednesday, February 9, 2

[RBW] Re: 2021 57cm Appaloosa F/F/HS/BB

2022-02-11 Thread Matthew Williams
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Re: [RBW] Re: Heterodoxy — reconciling RBW with the mainstream

2022-02-11 Thread ascpgh
I drove that car on hundreds of miles of Forest Service double track and "roads" as my shuttle for rides in those Ozarks. It's not "drifting" if it's what you have to do to keep the windshield pointing where you want the car to go. "Plowing" was what my SAAB 99EMS before the Fiat did until I le

Re: [RBW] Re: Heterodoxy — reconciling RBW with the mainstream

2022-02-11 Thread Patrick Moore
The technical term is "anorak." Patrick Moore, who gets a kick out of old fashioned Brit slang. On Fri, Feb 11, 2022 at 11:12 AM Ben Adrian wrote: > ... nerds ... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this g

[RBW] Re: Heterodoxy — reconciling RBW with the mainstream

2022-02-11 Thread 'John Phillips' via RBW Owners Bunch
Jay, Your existential bicycle crisis seems to suggest not so much do whatever floats your boat, but that you need to go out and float your boat more often in the boat of your choice! ;-) I found practical errand biking just added way too much drudgery & stress to my life. I'm not an a

Re: [RBW] ISO: 60 cm Platypus OR Cheviot

2022-02-11 Thread Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!
We found her a 60 Cheviot, friends. Thank you so much for your help. Anyone else needs a Rivendell mixte, message me! It’s my new thing. On Wednesday, February 9, 2022 at 9:20:19 AM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote: > Johnny, yes, you are right. I mentioned that option to her as well. That

Re: [RBW] Re: Heterodoxy — reconciling RBW with the mainstream

2022-02-11 Thread David Person
I like your idea for a meetup Ben. I tried to get a small group together last summer in Simi Valley, but it didn't happen. David in Thousand Oaks On Friday, February 11, 2022 at 10:13:00 AM UTC-8 bunny...@gmail.com wrote: > Okay, I'll jump in. > > We're all on a bike mailing list specializing

Re: [RBW] Re: Heterodoxy — reconciling RBW with the mainstream

2022-02-11 Thread Ben Adrian
Okay, I'll jump in. We're all on a bike mailing list specializing in once specific brand and type of bikes. Granted, they are more practical bikes than specialist bikes, but we're all still bike nerds here. I have a carbon gravel/road bike, a steel commuter and errand bike, and my Riv as my "z

Re: [RBW] Re: Heterodoxy — reconciling RBW with the mainstream

2022-02-11 Thread aeroperf
Rivendell bikes are boutique bikes, like Prada sells boutique purses. You’re paying a premium for the name. You’re also getting lugs, and a comfortable ride. My forever bike is my 2015 55 Sam. I’ve had people call it a “Classic”. It’s not. It’s new. I’ve had people call it “Retro”. It’s n

Re: [RBW] Re: Heterodoxy — reconciling RBW with the mainstream

2022-02-11 Thread Patrick Moore
Just read Chris's mention of his fatbike. That's what I'd choose to replace the Monocog if I could get one with a Q lower than 161 mm, but I don't think that's possible even with a ss drivetrain. On Fri, Feb 11, 2022 at 10:51 AM Patrick Moore wrote: > > Shoji: Would your Jones take 700C X 76mm/3"

Re: [RBW] Re: Heterodoxy — reconciling RBW with the mainstream

2022-02-11 Thread Patrick Moore
Shoji: Would your Jones take 700C X 76mm/3" (true with) tires and with a ss drivetrain allow a sub 160 mm Q factor? I should investigate Jones as a replacement for the Monocog, on which there is only 2-3 mm of clearance between stays and knobs for tires measuring 72 mm (knob to knob). Thanks. On

Re: [RBW] Re: Heterodoxy — reconciling RBW with the mainstream

2022-02-11 Thread Patrick Moore
Andy: That's an appealing photo. Do you drive the Fiat fast on empty dirt roads? Or is it slow, scenic drives? While a jr and sr in college I worked as a watchman, mostly weekend nights, for the 20th Century Fox Ranch, now Malibu State Park, which was right across Las Virgines Road from our then-c

Re: [RBW] Re: Heterodoxy — reconciling RBW with the mainstream

2022-02-11 Thread Patrick Moore
If the fundamental purpose of riding is to have fun, which it is for me, then I'd say that one should modify your Rivs in any way that make them more fun, and of course that is different for each rider. IMO, there's no shame in proselytizing for one's personal technology or equipment preferences, b

Re: [RBW] Re: Heterodoxy — reconciling RBW with the mainstream

2022-02-11 Thread Jay Lonner
So upon further reflection I’m starting to realize that the act of riding my bike can get so bound up with political and aesthetic considerations that I forget to have fun. Most of my biking is utilitarian commuting and grocery hauling, and sometimes that can get to be a drag. There are days whe

Re: [RBW] Heterodoxy — reconciling RBW with the mainstream

2022-02-11 Thread Mike Davis
My mountain bike is a Yokata El Capitan built in 1990/1991. It is steel, has a switchblade front fork and hard tail. It has ridden and works pretty well for alot of technical riding. It works well to commute to work. It can take racks, panniers, and fenders. It is 31/32 years old. I'm not seeing m

[RBW] Re: Heterodoxy — reconciling RBW with the mainstream

2022-02-11 Thread Bill Lindsay
Jay Lonner used the subject line "Heterodoxy -- reconciling RBW with the mainstream" He then explained he rented a wonderbike and did a ride suited for that wonderbike. Jay Lonner explained the experience was a first, and now wants to do it more. My question is: Do you really consider your on

[RBW] Re: Heterodoxy — reconciling RBW with the mainstream

2022-02-11 Thread Ian A
My introduction tow golf was through a third or fourth hand set of irons 'blades" is what my friend's dad called them. I hit some good shots eventually with that set, but my friends with cavity weighting and fibreglass clubs played much better shots. I borrowed a set from my friend when he upgr

[RBW] Re: Heterodoxy — reconciling RBW with the mainstream

2022-02-11 Thread Brady Smith
I regularly ride my Riv-styled BMC monster cross with a Rapha brevet jersey and Rivendell MUSA pants. I like the look, the jersey is great, and sometimes the pants are a welcome break from the usual lycra, especially in moderate temperatures. As for bikes, I too have been tempted by full-suspe

[RBW] Re: Heterodoxy — reconciling RBW with the mainstream

2022-02-11 Thread Christopher Cote
It's interesting when you reach that point where you have to say "hey, maybe everyone else isn't wrong, maybe I've been brainwashed?" Just kidding, it isn't that bad, but I do think that Grant unfairly criticizes mainstream MTB bikes and riding, though. I've ridden modern full suspension bikes

[RBW] Re: Heterodoxy — reconciling RBW with the mainstream

2022-02-11 Thread George Schick
This is an interesting subject and there have been some good replies. Golf was mentioned. I recall when clubs with fiberglass then later carbon fiber shafts were introduced. They made a big difference in the game for someone with a slow, mild swing. Later, oversized drivers came along. They

[RBW] Re: Heterodoxy — reconciling RBW with the mainstream

2022-02-11 Thread Shoji Takahashi
I borrowed my in-laws' hardtail to ride with them. I'd never ridden a "good" hardtail before, and it was fun. But, like Paul, I'm not interested in learning about suspension maintenance, tuning, etc. On the hardtail, it was easier to perform certain maneuvers that I could barely do on my Jones.

[RBW] Re: Heterodoxy — reconciling RBW with the mainstream

2022-02-11 Thread Ben Mihovk
I might be outing myself and will lose a lot of respect for this, but my OTHER big obsessive hobby is golf. I even work in a golf store during the summers. I only bring this up because this post makes me think about technology in golf. There are people who play golf equipment that's lacking in

Re: [RBW] Re: Introducing the Charlie H Gallop Protovelo

2022-02-11 Thread Eric Marth
Thanks for sharing, Jason! I know the frame's a bit big for you yet I'm curious to know how it feels with the drops. Too stretched out for you to get a good idea? Please tell us you're keeping that Suntour BL front mech. I know you like the nice tires, what are you thinking of for the Gallop?

Re: [RBW] Has anyone tried out their Uncle Ron's Orthopedic Bars?

2022-02-11 Thread Eric Marth
@johnsqual: Here's some clamp size info [image: Screen Shot 2022-02-11 at 7.01.02 AM.png] On Thursday, February 10, 2022 at 11:53:32 AM UTC-5 john...@gmail.com wrote: > Does anyone know why they went for a 26mm clamp rather than 25.4mm? It > seems like there's much more choice > in 25.4mm stems

Re: [RBW] Has anyone tried out their Uncle Ron's Orthopedic Bars?

2022-02-11 Thread Eric Marth
@John Phillips: Regarding availability it seems that a number of the manufacturing problems we're seeing everywhere have collided for Crust as well. They made a pretty small order before the bike boom, couldn't predict the demand, only half their order arrived (~90 bars), the order was very la