[RBW] Re: Show Me Your Atlantis!

2021-10-12 Thread Hugh Smitham
Rusty, That's a handsome Atlantis you have there. I need to take a look at Spank Flare bar. The second picture is great, the river trail sounds fun. Your using your Atlantis for what it was intended a great all-rounder rig. Black Kats are a good looking pedal but twice as much as the Deity Def

Re: [RBW] Re: Appaloosa drive train guidance

2021-10-12 Thread Joe Bernard
You got a 9spd SunRace shifter and cassette to index with a 10spd SRAM GX derailer? How did you even think to try it?? On Tuesday, October 12, 2021 at 6:20:24 PM UTC-7 Erik wrote: > Hi Kushan. I did something similar to the drivetrain on my Appaloosa last > year. I have a 42 / 24 double up

Re: [RBW] Re: Appaloosa drive train guidance

2021-10-12 Thread Nick Payne
One of the problems with using a dropout extender that moves the whole derailleur down, to work with a larger cassette than the design spec, is that the shifting becomes pretty bad in the smaller cogs, because the top jockey pulley is now a considerable distance from those cogs. Nick -- You r

[RBW] Re: Show Me Your Atlantis!

2021-10-12 Thread Benz Ouyang, Sunnyvale, CA
On Sunday, October 10, 2021 at 10:42:01 PM UTC-7 Hugh Smitham wrote: > > I guess that's you name? What a well thought out build. I absolutely love > that 1st gen XTR drive. Pretty sweet older hubs the polished silver looks > so good. I like the be seen friction (I presume) dyno rear light. I don

Re: [RBW] Re: Appaloosa drive train guidance

2021-10-12 Thread Erik
Hi Kushan. I did something similar to the drivetrain on my Appaloosa last year. I have a 42 / 24 double up front and wanted an ultra-low bailout gear in the back for loaded off-road riding / touring. I'm not a small man and when I get the bike loaded with gear, it's nice to have something re

Re: [RBW] New Craigslist/others thread

2021-10-12 Thread Doug H.
I considered the 59 Clem L but I really need the 52 at 5"10" and an 83 PBH. I spoke to Grant one day on the phone and he said he rides a 59 and is of similar size to me. It just looks too big although I've not tried one. Doug Athens, GA On Sunday, October 10, 2021 at 1:43:03 PM UTC-4 Erik wrote:

Re: [RBW] Re: Appaloosa drive train guidance

2021-10-12 Thread Toshi Takeuchi
I use a 10-speed friction drivetrain on my Roadeo. It has a Sugino Alpina cranks with SRAM 11-28 and microshift friction bar-ends with Ultegra RD. It shifts great. Toshi On Tue, Oct 12, 2021 at 12:43 PM Joe Bernard wrote: > I think we've established that the 11-42 cassette, 10-speed chain and

[RBW] Re: Appaloosa drive train guidance

2021-10-12 Thread Garth
Oh, I meant Collin A in my reply ! You're welcome !!! I don't know your name "duh...gmail" On Tuesday, October 12, 2021 at 5:36:09 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote: > I think the point for Kushan is to have a slightly lower gear available > and an 11-42 cassette can be sourced in a par

[RBW] Re: Appaloosa drive train guidance

2021-10-12 Thread Bill Schairer
I ran my MT as a quad for a very short time just to try it. I agree with Patrick that the shifting was very finicky, I couldn't remember where I was, and it was just overkill for my purposes. It was just a fun experiment. I use MT as my granny for loaded off-road touring and it worked very n

[RBW] Re: Appaloosa drive train guidance

2021-10-12 Thread Joe Bernard
The other nifty thing this does is make the bike essentially a 1x with bailout. Most riding would be in the big ring with that cassette so there's less fiddling with the front derailer.* * Exposing my 1x bias, I dislike front derailers, my custom is a 36 x 11-50 11-speed SRAM shifter and derail

[RBW] WTB: Nitto S83 in black

2021-10-12 Thread Todd G
Hi all, I’m looking for a Nitto S83 in black, 27.2, 300mm in VGC. I only have interest in the black version of this post. I’m not sure if these were produced in 250mm and 300mm, or just one of the two lengths. It’s probably a long shot as I believe these were a pretty limited run, but I figured

[RBW] Re: Appaloosa drive train guidance

2021-10-12 Thread Joe Bernard
I think the point for Kushan is to have a slightly lower gear available and an 11-42 cassette can be sourced in a parts shortage. It doesn't necessarily mean the lowest gear will be used. On Tuesday, October 12, 2021 at 2:02:18 PM UTC-7 Garth wrote: > As Nick mentioned, 24/36 is already very

[RBW] Re: Appaloosa drive train guidance

2021-10-12 Thread Jared Wilson
"What's the point of being in paradise and be in a hurry to pass by/leave ? I didn't realize that until I just stopped. Time, distance, space ... to heck with all of it ! BEING is where it's at and enjoying It to the fullest." - Garth I needed that right now, thank you. On Tuesday, October 12,

[RBW] Re: Unidentified Non-flying Object

2021-10-12 Thread Garth
They're called pivot pins Barry. Check out Porkchop BMX who has an awesome selection of many Dia-Compe parts. This may it https://porkchopbmx.com/nos-dia-compe-bl10-4s-road-bicycle-brake-lever-rebuild-kit/ On Tuesday, October 12, 2021 at 4:28:47 PM UTC-4 br...@onenaturellc.com wrote: > H

[RBW] Re: WTB: Nitto Fillet Face Plater Stem 25.4/110mm

2021-10-12 Thread Melanie
Hello David - I have one for you. Please email me off list. I emailed you but got no reply. Cheers! On Tuesday, October 12, 2021 at 2:18:26 PM UTC-4 cycli...@gmail.com wrote: > > Bump. Still searching. "Looking for love in all the wrong places". > On Friday, October 1, 2021 at 3:36:48 PM UTC

[RBW] Re: Appaloosa drive train guidance

2021-10-12 Thread Garth
As Nick mentioned, 24/36 is already very low and lower would be so slow and/or unstable to keep a straight line that I'd ask myself "what the point"? I'd rather walk up any such sections. I don't do it often but I've done it in some places where the section of road/trail is very steep and tract

Re: [RBW] Re: Appaloosa drive train guidance

2021-10-12 Thread Patrick Moore
And, forgot to add: IME, the Barcons shift 10 cogs nicer than Silvers. My experience. On Tue, Oct 12, 2021 at 2:36 PM Patrick Moore wrote: > I shift a non-standard 10-sp cassette (but more-or-less in-series Miche > cogs) with Suntour Barcons and the shifting is excellent. This is a very > close

Re: [RBW] Re: Appaloosa drive train guidance

2021-10-12 Thread Patrick Moore
I shift a non-standard 10-sp cassette (but more-or-less in-series Miche cogs) with Suntour Barcons and the shifting is excellent. This is a very close ratio cassette, though. I'm using an 11-speed chain, per a tip from Bike Radar that a chain 1 generation ahead of the cassette allows crisper shift

Re: [RBW] Re: Show Me Your Atlantis!

2021-10-12 Thread Joe Bernard
Hugh, No worries, I'm always reading, I just don't own an Atlantis and hadn't had anything to say. This is my new thing, only talk when I have something to talk about! 😂 On Tuesday, October 12, 2021 at 12:53:08 PM UTC-7 Hugh Smitham wrote: > Joe, > > Thanks for lurking and weighing in cuz I kn

Re: [RBW] Re: Appaloosa drive train guidance

2021-10-12 Thread lconley
Kind of depends on the shifter. I have silver 1s (2s will fit) on my Riv Custom with 11 speeds. The 1s require more shifter rotation for the shift - almost 180 degrees for all 11 gears, but it is easier to find the individual gears instead of shifting two at a time. Gear to gear it is similar

Re: [RBW] Re: Show Me Your Atlantis!

2021-10-12 Thread Hugh Smitham
Joe, Thanks for lurking and weighing in cuz I know you know some history there buddy. I mean no disrespect on the lurking, more of an affectionate jab. Best, Hugh On Tue, Oct 12, 2021, 12:49 PM Joe Bernard wrote: > Yes, all Atlantis runs have been in that celeste-ish color, but there was >

Re: [RBW] Re: Show Me Your Atlantis!

2021-10-12 Thread Joe Bernard
Yes, all Atlantis runs have been in that celeste-ish color, but there was - probably still is - an option to order a custom color on any Riv. Most of them were/are done by Rick Stefani (D&D Painting) in the Bay Area, plus it's possible some Waterford frames were done at Waterford. On Tuesday

Re: [RBW] Re: Appaloosa drive train guidance

2021-10-12 Thread Joe Bernard
I think we've established that the 11-42 cassette, 10-speed chain and Wolf Link is a fairly simple swap, the question is how will it shift. Has anyone here friction-shifted 10-speed? On Tuesday, October 12, 2021 at 12:10:25 PM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote: > 30 and more years ago I tried a 16, 1

Re: [RBW] Re: Appaloosa drive train guidance

2021-10-12 Thread Patrick Moore
30 and more years ago I tried a 16, 17, or 18 t MT Quad with a 48/38/28 original Deore or Deore XT triple, and found the shifting so finicky that I returned it. It would probably work best as a small granny added to a double. The maker still lives in Albuquerque as he did in 1989 or so when I firs

[RBW] WTB: Nitto Fillet Face Plater Stem 25.4/110mm

2021-10-12 Thread David Person
Bump. Still searching. "Looking for love in all the wrong places". On Friday, October 1, 2021 at 3:36:48 PM UTC-7 David Person wrote: > Been waiting on RivBike to get them back in stock, but throwing it out to > the Riv universe if anyone has one in nice condition they wish to part with. --

Re: [RBW] Re: Show Me Your Atlantis!

2021-10-12 Thread nus...@gmail.com
I believe I've seen a lilac early-run Atlantis which is where I got the idea from. Would love confirmation one way or the other! On Tuesday, October 12, 2021 at 11:27:03 AM UTC-6 Hugh Smitham wrote: > Gabriel, > > This is awesome, I love a good provenance story. I haven't had the > opportunity

[RBW] Re: Show Me Your Atlantis!

2021-10-12 Thread nus...@gmail.com
Thanks for the info, Gabe. I knew you'd purchased it from Minneapolis but cool to know it was from a higher-up at Surly. The grey powder coat looks fantastic in the sun. Hope your Steve Potts trail-bike has served as a good replacement! On Tuesday, October 12, 2021 at 11:10:57 AM UTC-6 Gabriel

Re: [RBW] Re: Show Me Your Atlantis!

2021-10-12 Thread Hugh Smitham
Gabriel, This is awesome, I love a good provenance story. I haven't had the opportunity to touch base with my Rivendell historian friend about the early Atlantis color schemes. My understanding was that they have always been that Russian sub interior color. But hey, I wasn't absolutely certain bec

[RBW] Re: Show Me Your Atlantis!

2021-10-12 Thread Gabriel Bruguier
Hello Hugh and Andrew, I thought I might chime in here because I was one of the previous owners of the grey Atlantis. The original owner, the Brand Manager of a certain well-known MPLS bike brand named Surly, had it powder coated sometime before 2017. He retained the two-toned paint scheme wit

[RBW] Re: Appaloosa drive train guidance

2021-10-12 Thread Collin A
Kushan, Sorry to hear of the laborious grinding on steep-but-not-so-steep climbs with your Appaloosa. I have a similar feeling with mine and my theory is that it has to do with the extra long chain flexing and stretching more and transferring less of your foot force to the rear wheel. But that

Re: [RBW] Re: Show Me Your Atlantis!

2021-10-12 Thread Hugh Smitham
Thanks for your input. Personally done with drops. Best Regards, Hugh On Tue, Oct 12, 2021, 9:10 AM lconley wrote: > I must agree on the handlebars. I have tried Boscos, Boscomooses, and > Albatrosses, but didn't like any of them. What I ride are drops, Bullmooses > and Wavies. > > Laing > > O

Re: [RBW] Re: Show Me Your Atlantis!

2021-10-12 Thread Hugh Smitham
Doug, Always nice to see the diminutive frame sets :) Hugh On Mon, Oct 11, 2021, 6:27 PM dougP wrote: > Couldn't resist slipping the mini-Lantis into the thread. Wife's 47cm > Atlantis. Bought used & she now has over 10 yeas on it. Weighs nothing > compared to my 58. > > dougP > > On Monday

Re: [RBW] Re: Show Me Your Atlantis!

2021-10-12 Thread Hugh Smitham
On Tue, Oct 12, 2021, 7:42 AM Steve Cole wrote: > Hugh, > Responses to your questions: > 1. The wheel flop stopper is a Steer Stopper, available at > https://steerstopper.com > Thank you Steve. 2. The Middleburn cranks, I believe, are sourced by James directly from > the manufacturer in the U

[RBW] Re: Appaloosa drive train guidance

2021-10-12 Thread J Schwartz
I've never seen that thing before (Moutain Tamer)...Looks useful as long as derailleurs can handle it. Would be fun to make a quad , something like 46/34/26/18 with a 12-34 in the rear ...no need for large cassette or roadlink device On Tuesday, October 12, 2021 at 8:26:34 AM UTC-4 Bill Schairer

[RBW] Re: DMV Area Rivendell Riders

2021-10-12 Thread mrb
We should do a meetup sometime! On Tuesday, October 12, 2021 at 10:28:56 AM UTC-4 Steve Cole wrote: > Hey Michael, > I live in Arlington with my MIT Atlantis. Take a look at it on another > thread -- Show Me Your Atlantis. Most of my riding allows me to ride from > my home in Rosslyn or start

Re: [RBW] Re: Show Me Your Atlantis!

2021-10-12 Thread lconley
I must agree on the handlebars. I have tried Boscos, Boscomooses, and Albatrosses, but didn't like any of them. What I ride are drops, Bullmooses and Wavies. Laing On Tuesday, October 12, 2021 at 10:42:19 AM UTC-4 Steve Cole wrote: > Hugh, > Responses to your questions: > 1. The wheel flop st

[RBW] Re: FS: Shimano CS-R8000 11 speed casette, 12-25T

2021-10-12 Thread Jim S.
Bump. I know this is probably the wrong group for a road, 11-speed cassette. But last try. $50 shipped. On Thursday, October 7, 2021 at 6:21:06 PM UTC-5 Jim S. wrote: > I've never taken it out of the box. $72 shipped. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups

Re: [RBW] Re: Show Me Your Atlantis!

2021-10-12 Thread Steve Cole
Hugh, Responses to your questions: 1. The wheel flop stopper is a Steer Stopper, available at https://steerstopper.com 2. The Middleburn cranks, I believe, are sourced by James directly from the manufacturer in the UK. 3. Trigger shifters. I know that there is a preference for friction shift

[RBW] Re: DMV Area Rivendell Riders

2021-10-12 Thread Steve Cole
Hey Michael, I live in Arlington with my MIT Atlantis. Take a look at it on another thread -- Show Me Your Atlantis. Most of my riding allows me to ride from my home in Rosslyn or start a short drive away -- the Mt. Vernon Trail, the C&O Canal, the Anacostia Trail, the Arlington Loop, Haynes P

[RBW] Re: DMV Area Rivendell Riders

2021-10-12 Thread Tom Wyland
Hey, Tom here! I ride a limeolive Platypus and I live out in the Herndon area (Virginia). I typically don't make it to DC with that bike very often -- maybe I will more when the Silver Line station near my house opens next spring. I'm active with Fairfax Alliance for Better Bicycling out this

[RBW] Re: Rivendell "Keven's Bike" build

2021-10-12 Thread lconley
Just over 11 miles each way for a round trip of a little over 22 miles. Fortunately, more than half of the commute is on a dedicated trail that runs along canals (glorified large drainage ditches) and not beside roads - and under the most of the major cross roads. I ride the sidewalks/bikepaths

[RBW] DMV Area Rivendell Riders

2021-10-12 Thread mrb
I found out that Paul R and I both live in Takoma Park, and I know he has a stable of 3 amazing Rivs. As a recent Romulus acquirer, I've gotten a few shout outs on the streets in the past couple months. Recently, I've also spotted two super nice rigs out on the trails/streets: - A super sweet r

[RBW] Re: Rivendell "Keven's Bike" build

2021-10-12 Thread Doug H.
It's a cool design I think. How's the ride? And, how far do you commute? I have commuted here in Athens but the traffic is a little heavy on one stretch of road that makes me a little nervous. The round trip for me is about 19 miles. Doug On Tuesday, October 12, 2021 at 8:10:34 AM UTC-4 lconley

[RBW] Re: Rivendell "Keven's Bike" build

2021-10-12 Thread lconley
I measured last night and the top of the stem is 7" above the top of the seat - definitely higher than I thought. Laing On Monday, October 11, 2021 at 9:47:15 AM UTC-4 lconley wrote: > The handlebars are somewhere around 4 to 6 inches above the saddle. I > originally had a dirt drop stem on it