[RBW] Re: Philadelphia Bike Expo Nov 2 and 3. Rivendell to exibit

How cool that you know the person who bought the display A.H. Hilsen! Excited to see the TiGr CroMo "Blue" lock prototype. I plan to order a Mini+ when the KickStarter goes public. Nice collection of photos! Thanks for sharing them, David Lipsky On Monday, November 11, 2019 at 6:29:50 PM UTC-8,

Re: [RBW] briar tires

I've used Big Apples on a few 20"-wheel folders. Great puncture protection, and they seem less sluggish than Marathons. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send

[RBW] Re: Philadelphia Bike Expo Nov 2 and 3. Rivendell to exibit

That Velo-Orange mini velo is sweet! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion o

Re: [RBW] briar tires

big apples might be worth a try. haven’t dealt with goatheads/puncturevine, but they seem even worse than our greenbriar. I can change a tire fine, just don’t want to be doing it every week, especially on winter rides through the forests when it’s cold enough your hands don’t work so well. tha

[RBW] Re: Philadelphia Bike Expo Nov 2 and 3. Rivendell to exibit

REC (Roberta) What were you thinking of posting a customized saddle with a heart rivet? Leah is already obsessing how to get her silly little hands on the heart shaped jewel 💜😂. I so wanted to head there at the 11th hour. Putting it on my bucket list and checking it off next year. See you at

[RBW] Re: Jackets, Jackets, Jackets!

Hey Julian, I did not but I sent you a PM just now. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view th

[RBW] Re: Philadelphia Bike Expo Nov 2 and 3. Rivendell to exibit

These are great! Thanks for “taking us along” with you. ❤️ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To

Re: [RBW] Re: A Tale of Two Clems

I have this same question, Roberta. Does anyone know when the next batch of Clementines come to Rivendell? They really are beloved and they do sell. Ryan is poking fun at me for Clem hoarding but it’s much worse than he thinks. I started out with a Betty Foy and over time, I wore my family memb

Re: [RBW] briar tires

I meant to say of course: "but from my experience, *and extrapolating from these to the Endurance casings,* I'll bet $15 that the Endurance casings wont " On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 7:24 PM Patrick Moore wrote: > I've used only 1 extralight model, but from my experience with thorns, I'd > bet $

Re: [RBW] briar tires

I've used only 1 extralight model, but from my experience with thorns, I'd bet $15 that they won't protect sufficiently for your tastes against goatheads. Pre-Stan's and Orange Seal, I used Kojaks (35 labeled/32 actual) on a couple of my road bikes; the puncture belt sufficed to keep goathead punct

Re: [RBW] Re: A Tale of Two Clems

You get a Clem and YOU get a Clem! It's like Oprah except there's only two people in the audience and they get all the Clems 😂 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it,

[RBW] Re: Jackets, Jackets, Jackets!

Dave, I sent a PM this morning about the women's small jacket -- did you receive it? Thanks, Julian Westerhout Bloomington, IL On Sunday, November 10, 2019 at 8:38:40 PM UTC-6, Dave Grossman wrote: > > Clearing out some useful outdoorsy jackets to get some new gear for my > kids. If anyo

Re: [RBW] Re: A Tale of Two Clems

Says the man (Joe) with two to the lady (Leah) with four. You each are among my favorite Riv Listers. Sincerely, Ryan “Clem less” Hankinson West Michigan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and s

[RBW] Re: Opinions on some Napa routes?

Hi Lee, Sounds like you'd come down St. Helena / Spring Mtn road out of the mountains heading into St. Helena. I would probably opt for White Cottage / Ink Grade instead of Howell Mtn Rd, as there's less traffic, for sure. Old Howell Mountain Road is the best climb up from Silverado. However,

[RBW] Re: It's getting to be that time of year again: Time to order stuff from Rivendell

In last years since I started 'Riv'ing, I think I have accumulated enough parts and accessories for biking plans I have for next 10 years :) So today I ordered a few books, stickers and a few hundred dollars worth of gift card, which I will use toward a Susie or Boots (or maybe a Charlie)

[RBW] Re: It's getting to be that time of year again: Time to order stuff from Rivendell

this thread inspired me to get the new nitto front rack too. especially after watching the basket on my AHH wiggle, zip tied to a mark's rack, on my ride this morning. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from th

Re: [RBW] Re: A Tale of Two Clems

They need to just keep ordering them. Clems are so popular that people don't even sell them later, it's quite difficult to track any down on the used market. Because they're perfect! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To uns

Re: [RBW] Opinions on some Napa routes?

The Tour of the Napa Valley stitches together most of these roads: https://ridewithgps.com/trips/17036705 (not my GPS track) You can cut out some distance and climbing by turning left at mile 44.5 onto Chiles Pope Valley Road and heading straight for Pop

Re: [RBW] Re: A Tale of Two Clems

Rivendell sold out of these bikes within a month of getting them. Does anyone know if they are planning to get more completes? More frames? I'm not talking about a reinvented version, but the same version and same colors that they just need to order (I know it's not that simple) and keep in

[RBW] Re: Opinions on some Napa routes?

I did a route like that about this time last year. Most of Howell Mtn was, and I think still is, closed to cars so that's great. Angwin stores are closed on Saturday (Adventists, I think), but Pope Valley Market at the bottom of Howell Mtn has cold drinks. Chiles Pope Valley is nice, not much t

Re: [RBW] Re: A Tale of Two Clems

Yes, Garth! These photos were so helpful; I knew I wasn’t imagining this. I thought I noticed it in the photo the seller had on Craigslist - I remember thinking that bike looked looonnnggg. I’m telling you, this Clem is a DIFFERENT BIKE. And you know what else? My sister had been riding (ok st

[RBW] long shot: looking to test ride a 60cm Cheviot in the DC area

Paul , I have an 89 pbh and ride a 60 Cheviot. My seat post has 3.5cm showing. My cranks are 175. I think the 60 will be to big for your wife. Nice try on the dual ownership. https://photos.app.goo.gl/CUi633Pc6KzDDRJ88 Howard Livonia Mi -- You received this message because you are subscribe

Re: [RBW] Anyone elsed notice Rivendell's freaky, inconsistent seatpost standards?

I use a s-84 27.2 lugged post on my 29.8 Clem no problem! I used a shim which I filed to fit the contours of the seat lug. Never slipped, and looked even better to my eye. As for my 26.8 Roscos, nitto makes the s-83. -Kai -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Gro

[RBW] Re: It's getting to be that time of year again: Time to order stuff from Rivendell

Oh well, nevermind. They're out of everything in sizes other than small... On Monday, November 11, 2019 at 9:26:08 AM UTC-6, Kevin Mulcahy wrote: > > Good reminder. Thanks Bill. It's also that time of the year to order > merino baselayers. Might as well order them from Riv! > -- You received th

Re: [RBW] Anyone elsed notice Rivendell's freaky, inconsistent seatpost standards?

I suspect "modern standards" would be just as bewildering to me as Riv standards are to you. I've gone through stacks of 26.8 and 27.2 posts over many years and have never had trouble finding all the new and used ones I needed. For big fun try getting into folding bikes and figuring out THOSE si

Re: [RBW] FS: 62cm Rambouillet

$700 frame/ fork should fly Good luck, awesome bike! Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 11, 2019, at 3:57 PM, Jay Lonner wrote: > >  > This is my Rambouillet. There are many like it, but this one is mine. But it > also could be yours, since my riding has morphed from spirited weekend rides

Re: [RBW] Anyone elsed notice Rivendell's freaky, inconsistent seatpost standards?

Fair enough, it's only freaky and inconsistent by modern standards I suppose. That bit about the tubeset diameters makes a lot of sense, thanks. Anyone have a list of what tube specs have been used and when? That would be interesting to see. It's way easy to find 27.2 as that's the most common

[RBW] Re: Anyone elsed notice Rivendell's freaky, inconsistent seatpost standards?

There appears to be two major sources for 26.8 and 29.8mm seatposts. Kalloy, as you mentioned, and Thomson. Not sure anyone else, including Nitto sells a 29.8mm.Good Luck! On Monday, November 11, 2019 at 10:39:19 AM UTC-8, Matt D wrote: > > So what's the deal with Grant's thinking on seatposts?

[RBW] long shot: looking to test ride a 60cm Cheviot in the DC area

I am an 81 pbh, and I have a 55 Cheviot. Earlier this year my wife and took a ride with Grant with a Hubbuh Hubbuh and his 60cm Cheviot. I got scared on the back of the tandem, and tried to ride to 60cm Cheviot. I couldn’t get my behind on the saddle - between the height of the seatpost lug and

Re: [RBW] Re: A Tale of Two Clems

I just tested these after posting, and google gives me one of these silly red "deceptive site" warnings . which is hilarious as google is calling google groups a "deceptive site" ! Ahahaahahaha ! So if you see the red warning, choose to ignore it. -- You received this message because yo

Re: [RBW] Anyone elsed notice Rivendell's freaky, inconsistent seatpost standards?

SheldonBrown.com has an entire page devoted to seatpost sizes: https://www.sheldonbrown.com/seatpost-sizes.html If you have an older bike, things get interesting. I have a ‘72 Cinelli (26.2mm) and a ‘71 Motobecane (26.4mm) that both require seatposts that can be somewhat difficult to find. --

[RBW] Anyone elsed notice Rivendell's freaky, inconsistent seatpost standards?

Freaky and inconsistent is a little much. 28.6mm is the outside diameter of a normal seat tube. 0.7mm wall thickness yields a 27.2mm seatpost. 0.9mm wall thickness yields a 26.8mm seatpost. The thinking is spec tubing that is stout enough for the application and the seatpost diameter is a resu

Re: [RBW] Re: A Tale of Two Clems

Hi Roberta, I'm using Firefox in Linux Mint. I did some searching about IE and it seems it has no such option, which is rather archaic on their part ! Instead try these urls of the images I see in my browser, if they aren't live then copy and past in separate tabs. https://13507435628737481

Re: [RBW] briar tires

I have thought about tubeless and haven t convinced myself it s worth new rims and needing to remember to renew sealant occasionally It s flat down here on the delmarva peninsula and few rocks—we were basically ocean bottom not that long ago— so traction and pinch flats not biggies. But if i

RE: [RBW] Anyone elsed notice Rivendell's freaky, inconsistent seatpost standards?

Seat post size is the inner diameter of top of the seat tube (usually single butted - thin part at the top) - change the tube = change the seat post. When the Sam got 0.2 thicker tubes (same outer diameter = same lugs), the seat post got smaller -> 27.2 minus 2 x 0.2 = 26.8. Laing Conley -

Re: [RBW] briar tires

Why isn't tubeless an option? Haven't got an appropriate wheelset, no budget for it, just don't like the idea? I'm not a huge fan of tubeless for most purposes but that's a use case for which I would certainly consider it. The reason it's so popular in MTB is that you can run lower pressures fo

[RBW] Anyone elsed notice Rivendell's freaky, inconsistent seatpost standards?

I believe it's a matter of what seatlug is used for a particular model. 27.2 was on the MUSA frames, 29.8 was the socket-style lug originally used on all Clems and now only the big ones, 26.8 is the lug currently used on the smaller Clems and all MIT fully-lugged bikes. -- You received this m

[RBW] long shot: looking to test ride a 60cm Cheviot in the DC area

Dear Paul, My PBH is 86.5 and my seat height as pictured is 75.5 https://flic.kr/p/YN2Hgd I’ve since sold the 60cm Cheviot to a list member far from here. I hope you’ll find a local one to test ride. It’s a great bike! Best wishes, Erl Kensington, MD -- You received this message because you are

[RBW] Anyone elsed notice Rivendell's freaky, inconsistent seatpost standards?

So what's the deal with Grant's thinking on seatposts? There are a lot of Rivs that come with the 26.8mm seatpost standard. Roadini, Sam H., and the lower two sizes of the Clem come with 26.8 and I believe all the others are made for 27.2 or 29.8 in the case of the Hubbuhubbuh and 59cm Clem. So

[RBW] long shot: looking to test ride a 60cm Cheviot in the DC area

So, if you can’t get your hands on a 60 to try, my story may help. If I remember right (I’m about 95% sure), MY PBH is 83. I rode Grant’s 60 cm Cheviot last April and when I jumped off it I got more acquainted with that tube than I wanted to. I did not expect THAT on a mixte frame. I remember

[RBW] long shot: looking to test ride a 60cm Cheviot in the DC area

i'm looking to buy a Cheviot for my wife, who with an 83cm PBH is right on the line between the 55cm and the 60cm Cheviot. I'd like to get a 60cm for several reasons (such as...me being able to ride it, too) but am concerned that it could be too big and she'll be riding with the saddle jammed

[RBW] Opinions on some Napa routes?

Hey RBWers, hope you are all enjoying a good fall! I'm thinking about doing the following ride this Saturday morning and wanted to get your thoughts on how difficult, how much time, relative safety and traffic conditions, etc. Note, I'll be traveling with a camping load on the bike. I'd appreciat

Re: [RBW] Re: A Tale of Two Clems

Garth, What browser are you using? I don't have a view option (IE in Windows 10, and, yes, I know it should be something else). Roberta On Monday, November 11, 2019 at 12:12:54 PM UTC-5, Garth wrote: > > > Right click on the images, click "view". This will open them full size. > -- You rec

[RBW] Re: A Tale of Two Clems

Leah, I cannot believe how BEAUTIFUL that color is. So rich and the Riv website does not do it justice. I noticed that when I saw the Cheviot in person last week. For those looking at the Chev, Rivendell told me that the Chev and this Clem are the same color in blue. I also like the svelt

Re: [RBW] Re: A Tale of Two Clems

You're right. Hopefully I haven't sent Leah on another wild goose chase of measuring with a tape of measure. Also, what IS a wild goose chase?? 🤔 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiv

Re: [RBW] Re: A Tale of Two Clems

Right click on the images, click "view". This will open them full size. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googl

[RBW] Re: FS: 700c wheelset with XTR M900 hubs

Hi Bill, Good points, thanks. You are correct that the hubs are both 32H. I'm currently using the skewers with my new wheelset, but if a buyer really wants the skewers I would be open to trading them for a set of internal-cam skewers of similar quality and shininess. Thanks, Joey On Monday, N

[RBW] Re: FS: 700c wheelset with XTR M900 hubs

The two questions I imagine your buyer may ask are: how many spoke holes, and are the period correct XTR skewers included? >From the photos it looks like 32 hole front and rear. Your price is great even without skewers and even if the rims are trash. If the skewers are included and decent the

Re: [RBW] Re: A Tale of Two Clems

Better way to measure is the wheelbase. From front axle to rear axle. I’m guessing the new one is actually is longer. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an

Re: [RBW] WTB: Paul thumbie w/ Silver Shifter and adaptor

It's so funny that you wrote that - I just returned from scrounging through my parts bin looking for a pair of these myself for an upcoming build. Luckily I have a brand-new set, which doesn't help you, but does make me wonder whether Paul's decision to stop making these contributed to the developm

[RBW] FS: 700c wheelset with XTR M900 hubs

Posted this over on ibob already, but I thought the people here might be interested in these wheels/hubs as well. For sale is a 700c wheelset with old XTR hubs and unknown rims. Hubs are HB-M900 and FH-M900, I believe from 1992. Bearings are in great shape. Spacing is 100/135 QR. The rims are f

Re: [RBW] Re: A Tale of Two Clems

Leah may need to get her tape measure out again. I'm thinking the longer toptube and chainstays are the result of the seattube getting slacked back a bit..I'll bet the bike itself isn't actually longer. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners B

[RBW] WTB: Paul thumbie w/ Silver Shifter and adaptor

Hi, I want to buy a Paul Thumbie with the Silver Shifter. Paul used to make an adaptor to use them, but it's discontinued. I want to run a friction shifter on my 9 speed Rivendell. Anyone holding and not using?? I just want the one shifter and mount. Thank you! Michael -- You received this

[RBW] Re: It's getting to be that time of year again: Time to order stuff from Rivendell

Good reminder. Thanks Bill. It's also that time of the year to order merino baselayers. Might as well order them from Riv! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, sen

Re: [RBW] Re: A Tale of Two Clems

Leah, I had to chuckle at the account of your new purchase. When I got my Clementine I worried that subsequent interations, would retain the bits I liked & the parts I didn't like would be put straight. Well, the long chain stays don't thrill me & I didn't think they would go away, but I didn't t