Re: [RBW] Re: Rene Herse "went to go-fast 700c rando machines many years ago for a good reason"?

2017-12-15 Thread Belopsky
What exactly are you asking? 700c is faster. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this g

[RBW] Re: Clem L question

2017-12-15 Thread Belopsky
technically this is true On Friday, December 15, 2017 at 10:34:29 PM UTC-5, Joe Bernard wrote: > > Technically it's a two-speed, which is how I'm setting up my Cheviot. > Those tires are huge..it's a FatRivbike! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW

Re: [RBW] Re: Rene Herse "went to go-fast 700c rando machines many years ago for a good reason"?

2017-12-15 Thread Patrick Moore
Per the other thread: http://boulderbicycle.bike/Boulder-Bicycle-Rando-Overview-and-Pricing.html On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 8:42 PM, Brian Campbell wrote: > Is there a link for some context? > > > On Friday, December 15, 2017 at 7:05:55 PM UTC-5, lum gim fong wrote: >> >> per Boulder Bikes. >> >> A

Re: [RBW] Re: 650b tires: the fat and the skinny about them?

2017-12-15 Thread Patrick Moore
Interesting opinion, and interesting fact -- I assume -- about Singer and Herse using 700C with narrower tires for "go fast rando machines." Regarding the moment of inertia, I don't doubt that the feel of certain combinations of diameter and width correspond across the spectrum; it's just calling

[RBW] Re: Rene Herse "went to go-fast 700c rando machines many years ago for a good reason"?

2017-12-15 Thread Brian Campbell
Is there a link for some context? On Friday, December 15, 2017 at 7:05:55 PM UTC-5, lum gim fong wrote: > > per Boulder Bikes. > > Anyone know the story about this? > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this

[RBW] Re: Clem L question

2017-12-15 Thread Joe Bernard
Technically it's a two-speed, which is how I'm setting up my Cheviot. Those tires are huge..it's a FatRivbike! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email

Re: [RBW] Care to share experiences converting to SS using White Industries ENO Eccentric?

2017-12-15 Thread Patrick Moore
I'ved owned 2, and used one on a commuter, the other off road. Both worked well, but the hub does have shortcomings. First, I could barely get a 2 tooth difference. 2nd, the hub moves the axle and rim in a circular arc, which means that if you do manage to get it to work with cogs of slightly diffe

[RBW] Re: "We’ll have “classic” single speed frames again...."

2017-12-15 Thread Christopher Murray
Howdy, Production Quickbeams were all made in Japan by Panasonic. A few pre-production frames were built in the USA. There is a picture of one floating around the internet and two more might exist but nobody seems to know for sure. Cheers! Chris -- You received this message because you are s

[RBW] Re: Clem L question

2017-12-15 Thread Belopsky
Well..I got some tires and went single speed https://photos.app.goo.gl/N0CudmFzpveK1ElG2 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+un

[RBW] Re: Care to share experiences converting to SS using White Industries ENO Eccentric?

2017-12-15 Thread tc
Gotcha - thanks. I have an Ogre (the Surly kind) for heavy duty stuff...so my SS will be for knocking around, Greenway rides, etc. Will certainly take a look at the Phil SS hub offerings. On Friday, December 15, 2017 at 9:23:07 PM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote: > > Not experience, but the things

[RBW] Re: Riv Suggested Max Rider Weight per Model; Separate question about Sam sizing

2017-12-15 Thread Dave Johnston
My files say this is the geo from 2013. On Tuesday, December 12, 2017 at 5:15:57 PM UTC-5, RDS wrote: > > Does anyone have a link or s

[RBW] Care to share experiences converting to SS using White Industries ENO Eccentric?

2017-12-15 Thread Deacon Patrick
Not experience, but the things I learned and was considering before rejecting the Eno because I’m an ogre and it would have gone on my bikepacking/hauling rig and I prefer the solution of Quickbeam style dropouts on my Hunqabeam are: — it is eccentric in 360˚, so if tire clearence is a concern,

[RBW] Care to share experiences converting to SS using White Industries ENO Eccentric?

2017-12-15 Thread tc
62cm Quickbeams and SimpleOnes are rarer than unicorns, so looking at options, like going the Eccentric ENO route with a Roadini, or a(nother) Sam. Has anyone had good/bad experiences with the ENO Eccentric? For those not familiar, see article in Reader #38, Summer 2006: https://gallery.mailchi

[RBW] Re: "We’ll have “classic” single speed frames again...."

2017-12-15 Thread Belopsky
Once again I am rambling Depending on price and geometry, sign me up, but I can get a custom in truly my size for this as well, so it depends on a lot :| -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and st

[RBW] Re: "We’ll have “classic” single speed frames again...."

2017-12-15 Thread Belopsky
I lied. the 51 Hope to see geometry sheet to confirm. 54.4 tt sounds good On Friday, December 15, 2017 at 8:27:59 PM UTC-5, Belopsky wrote: > > Awaiting pricing and more info but sign me up for a 53cm blue plz... > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RB

[RBW] Re: "We’ll have “classic” single speed frames again...."

2017-12-15 Thread Belopsky
Awaiting pricing and more info but sign me up for a 53cm blue plz... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroup

[RBW] Re: "We’ll have “classic” single speed frames again...."

2017-12-15 Thread Joe Bernard
I just saw the Frank Jones headtube in the new newsletter. It uses the RBW Custom lugs. Seriously. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owne

[RBW] Re: FS - 56cm double top tube Sam F/F/HS - $400

2017-12-15 Thread Karl
I am surprised this is still for sale! Oh man! Someone save me! On Friday, December 15, 2017 at 4:34:26 PM UTC-6, Stephen D wrote: > > Selling a 56cm double top tube Sam F/F/HS. In good shape, but there is a > dent in the seat tube. > > The headset and bottom bracket are from a Riv build circa 20

[RBW] Rene Herse "went to go-fast 700c rando machines many years ago for a good reason"?

2017-12-15 Thread lum gim fong
per Boulder Bikes. Anyone know the story about this? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post

[RBW] Re: "We’ll have “classic” single speed frames again...."

2017-12-15 Thread tc
Hmm ... was the actual production Quickbeam & SimpleOne recommended sizing different from what that reader article posted? I was not able to find any other PBH- or saddle height-based QB sizing info. On Friday, December 15, 2017 at 6:03:25 PM UTC-5, iamkeith wrote: > > Thanks for posting. It's

Re: [RBW] Re: 650b tires: the fat and the skinny about them?

2017-12-15 Thread John Hawrylak
I thought BQ listed the widths by the moment of inertia, a 650x42 having about the same as a 700x32. Same MI is expected to provide similar handling. Also Mike Kone has some "words of wisdom"(his *Our Philosophy Note*) on 650 vs 700 for a brevet type bike on his Boulder Bicycle site, along wi

[RBW] Re: "We’ll have “classic” single speed frames again...."

2017-12-15 Thread iamkeith
Thanks for posting. It's interesting reading the old pre-release stuff, and comparing to how it came out in the end. Did Curt and Joe actually build the first QBs, or did they go straight to Panasonic? Anybody know? On Friday, December 15, 2017 at 3:10:10 PM UTC-7, tc wrote: > > I finally fou

[RBW] FS - 56cm double top tube Sam F/F/HS - $400

2017-12-15 Thread Stephen D
Selling a 56cm double top tube Sam F/F/HS. In good shape, but there is a dent in the seat tube. The headset and bottom bracket are from a Riv build circa 2013. Frame is in Baltimore and price is for local pickup. Shipping will be $50 to have local bike shop pack the bike plus bike flights pric

[RBW] Re: "We’ll have “classic” single speed frames again...."

2017-12-15 Thread tc
I finally found the original Reader that referenced recommended Quickbeam sizes: http://www.cyclofiend.com/Images/rbw/rr27_pg45.jpg It will be interesting to see how Frank Jones Sr sizing compares. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch"

Re: [RBW] Re: Fixed Flywheel for the Brain

2017-12-15 Thread Clayton.sf
I ride fixed with retentionless platform pedals too. Same with SS mtb. Midfoot position and wide-a$$ bars help. Done brevets fixed clipped in vs. not clipped in and the difference was negligeable for time but significant for comfort. Of course if I only sprinted or only did short uphill rides th

Re: [RBW] Re: Fixed Flywheel for the Brain

2017-12-15 Thread Deacon Patrick
Kai, Right on! Next ride you do, change nothing but expectation. Ride without expectation, like a kid. Let the bike teach you how it works, and thus how you work with it. With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" grou

[RBW] 650b tires: the fat and the skinny about them?

2017-12-15 Thread Lynne Fitz
+1 on the Hutchinsons. They are the widest tires my Sweetpea frame accommodates. I also have Soma xPress on the Bleriot; like those as well, but the bikes have different uses. The big miles happen on the Sweetpea. Continental has also come out with a narrower 650b tire, but that's all I know

Re: [RBW] Re: 650b tires: the fat and the skinny about them?

2017-12-15 Thread Evan E.
Patrick Moore asked: "So what does 'optimum' mean here?" There is, of course, no such thing as "optimum width" for a 650B tire, because different riders have different druthers. But if I recall, Jan took pains to test different tire widths until he determined what is, according to him, the opti

Re: [RBW] Re: Fixed Flywheel for the Brain

2017-12-15 Thread Kainalu V.
I flopped my flip flop wheel last night and gave fixed a brief try out on my street. It felt weird, I think foot retention would make it feel better? Anyways, I tried a skid like I see all the folks do on the bridges and the result was scary funny, I guess that's where retention is very necessar

Re: [RBW] Re: 650b tires: the fat and the skinny about them?

2017-12-15 Thread Garth
What ! ... and that's what, about what ! sheesh ... glad we got that cleared up ! On Friday, December 15, 2017 at 11:23:33 AM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote: > > Say, what? > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe

[RBW] Re: 650b tires: the fat and the skinny about them?

2017-12-15 Thread Justin, Oakland
I personally didn’t enjoy smaller than 42 on my Bleriot and refuse smaller only Saluki However if I were to get any of he smaller ones I would get the SOMA B lines if they still exist. Great great tires. -J -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Ow

Re: [RBW] Re: Fixed Flywheel for the Brain

2017-12-15 Thread Philip Williamson
I'm all about the brakes, as well. I've run a fixed bike with a single front brake, but I prefer the symmetry of two. Plus they stop faster. And make it easier to handle the bike when wheeling it around. Philip Santa Rosa, CA On Thursday, December 14, 2017 at 7:35:37 PM UTC-8, Christopher Murra

Re: [RBW] René Herse: The Beauty of Function

2017-12-15 Thread Lee Legrand
*Herse made his bikes so stunning despite (or rather, because of) their simplicity* - Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication (William Gaddis) - It seems that perfection is attained not when there nothing more to add but when there is nothing more to remove. (Antoine de Saint Exupery)

[RBW] Re: 650b tires: the fat and the skinny about them?

2017-12-15 Thread Jim M.
I run Compass Loup Loups 650x38 on my converted Merckx Corsa. It's a fast, nimble frame and the Loup Loups are light and roll well to complement the frame characteristics. I haven't tried a narrower tire because with the LL's the bike is my ideal combination of cushy and quick. jim m walnut cre

Re: [RBW] Re: 650b tires: the fat and the skinny about them?

2017-12-15 Thread Patrick Moore
Say, what? On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 9:22 AM, Garth wrote: > Yes , just ride whatever you want ! > > "Optimal" depends on one's judgement of what that means. To call that a > "standard", when such judgement is always changing, such a "standard" would > be no standard at all because a true standard

Re: [RBW] Re: 650b tires: the fat and the skinny about them?

2017-12-15 Thread Garth
Yes , just ride whatever you want ! "Optimal" depends on one's judgement of what that means. To call that a "standard", when such judgement is always changing, such a "standard" would be no standard at all because a true standard would have to be universal and apply to everyone all the time,

[RBW] René Herse: The Beauty of Function

2017-12-15 Thread Jan Heine
We've admired René Herse's bikes for a their beauty, function and performance for many years. However, it took a long time to figure out just how Herse made his bikes so stunning despite (or rather, because of) their simplicity... We share some of the secrets of the 'magician of Levallois' in t

Re: [RBW] Re: 650b tires: the fat and the skinny about them?

2017-12-15 Thread Patrick Moore
Tangential, but related: Jan again claims to have found the best width/diameter combinations. But is there really any objective standard for this, given riders' different preferences for handling? I ask because for me, the 559 bsd wheeled road bikes Grant designed feel perfect with 28 mm tires; and

[RBW] WTT - Nitto Dirt Drop 10cm stem (26.0) new in package for 8cm

2017-12-15 Thread sean
Hello Rivsters, Looking to trade a new, never mounted (and still in plastic with quill protector) 10cm Nitto Dirt Drop stem for the same stem in the 80cm size. https://www.rivbike.com/collections/stems/products/nitto-dirt-drop-26-0-8cm-or-10cm?variant=23337069825 Will also consider trading for

[RBW] Re: 650b tires: the fat and the skinny about them?

2017-12-15 Thread Tom Goodmann
Thanks to all for your views and offers; I've ordered a pair of the Hutchinsons, and look forward to trying them out. I've not yet tried running tires without tubes--something new--that would go toward my idea to make this a lighter build. It may well be, as it seems so far, the One Bike to Ru

[RBW] Re: Assorted FS, bit of a clear out.

2017-12-15 Thread Julian Westerhout
Updated list of what's still available below -- feel free to make an offer if you feel prices are not in line: On Thursday, December 14, 2017 at 8:38:29 PM UTC-6, Julian Westerhout wrote: > > For Sale: > > > Mustache cockpit — bars, cloth tape, Nitto technomic stem, Cane Creek > brake levers,

[RBW] Re: 650b tires: the fat and the skinny about them?

2017-12-15 Thread Belopsky
I'll sell you a pair of these: 650x36, http://www.cyclesgrandbois.com/SHOP/T650_F35_SS.html extra leger, red. Mounted once. $110 shipped On Thursday, December 14, 2017 at 9:26:47 PM UTC-5, Tom Goodmann wrote: > > I'm the current happy rider of a Curt Goodrich-built Proto Saluki (my > friend from

[RBW] Re: 650b tires: the fat and the skinny about them?

2017-12-15 Thread Nick Payne
I have one lightweight custom 650b machine shod with the Hutchinson Confrérie des 650B, which measure out at 33mm wide on Velocity A23 rims. I think they ride very nicely - I'm fairly light at 65kg, and I run them at 40psi front and 60psi rear. They also roll out pretty well - I take that bike