The 177 and 185 have several diffs. Ramp is the most obvious. The 15-deg
slant back is less obvious. THe 4-deg flare is yet a third diff. The 185 is
measured to the ends; the 177, to the center of the curve (that is a
measuring diff, not a bar diff).
We specify center of curve measurement so as
We asked NITTO to mark it at 75, not 65. Its standard is 65. I prefer 75,
esp with headset stacks.
On Saturday, October 6, 2012 9:01:18 PM UTC-7, lungimsam wrote:
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> I was swapping out my 8cm stem for a 7cm, and I noticed that the MAX
> height line has been moved higher on my new stem I just bo
Let me know what you find, Michael. I did a hack to get a headlight on
mine, and while it works, I would prefer something that was made for a
light mounted under the platform.
http://flic.kr/p/cZqXVG
Brian H
Seattle, WA
On Sat, Oct 6, 2012 at 9:42 PM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery <
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Congrats, Bob! It's a lovely bike! Love the Hunqa. I just put some VP
pedals on my 54cm, too. Nice!
Brian
Seattle, Wa
On Sat, Oct 6, 2012 at 9:17 PM, lungimsam wrote:
> Nice pictures!!!
>>
>>
> I could hear the music for 2001 A Space Odyssey playing in my head as each
> picture passed by on
I've got a Nitto Rando's on my Bleriot, Noodles on my Riv Road, and
Dream bars on my Paramount. I think the Rando's are the most
comfortable but they are also the narrowest. I've ridden them for
several years now so they feel like a pair of old shoes after riding
my other bikes. The Noodles are v
>
> If I remember correctly, back in June a cat on eBay had an NIB
>> Green-bouillet for sale.
>>
>>
> I considered it but really wanted something already built up as I am not a
mechanic and had no parts, and was limited finanically at the time to what
I could spend.
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> I can only comment on the NITTO Noodle.
> I really love it, but it is a big jump to the drops.
>
> They should make a Noodle with a shorter drop for smaller riders and
> un-racers.
>
>
I actually heard a pedestrian yell to me "Don't do it!!" when I was
reaching for the drops. A crowd wa
I think one of the Berthoud mini front racks would work.
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I'm looking for a front rack for my AHH to support a handlebar bag.
Unfortunately, the VO rack that I've got has struts that are much too
short to reach the eyelets on the fork blades. It looks like a Mark's
Rack would reach, but that one doesn't seem to have any provision for
mounting a headlight
>
> UPDATE:
> Got the hub back. Flipped bike. Put it on the bike. Pedalled a turn or
> two. Went to the bathroom to wash my hands. When I returned, the wheel was
> still moving. Now thats what I call a freed up hub.
>
>
Before, it was gravelly feeling and only spun several times with no
momen
>
> Blue, 56, would be mine, as long as the wife was ok with it.
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> Nice pictures!!!
>
>
I could hear the music for 2001 A Space Odyssey playing in my head as each
picture passed by on the slideshow.
That is a beautiful bike. Congrats!!
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> I notice the old one (left) says "NT" on it, while the new one (right) has
> "RT" stamped on it. I wonder what that means?
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Bob:
Well done! The bike looks terrific, and the unpacking / assembly
photos are cool. It's fun to see the progression from bubble wrap &
zip ties to parts installed, then the bike on the road. Hey, I didn't
get one of those cool tags on my Atlantis! Of course, it was a while
back...a long whi
>
> Unless the seller I bought from is selling seconds...maybe someone at
> NITTO had a bad day and stamped the shaft in the wrong place...
>
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Significant difference in comfort? Not for me. If your current set up is ok,
how much more comfort do you need? If your current set up is not ok, might as
well try something new.
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I had a few moments with the diag-tube back when it was introduced but when
I saw the actual bikes at RBW (and test rode them) all doubts disappeared,
hence the Hunq.
And yeah, it's sweet. Maybe the color should be called 'sweet pea.' :-)
The 62 fits me really well, but I've got a 96 PBH so... :-
Good to know. So there is not a significant difference in wrist
angle... and comfort?
On Oct 6, 11:22 pm, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
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> I've ridden the 135 and the 177 extensively. I like them both. I doubt you'd
> gain anything from switching, but it might be fun anyway.
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Sweet bike, I like the new green!
I'm between a 54 and 58 but think the 58 would be a better fit. If I
can come to terms with the diag-tube, I may own a Hunq someday.
Enjoy!
On Oct 6, 10:59 pm, "Robert F. Harrison" wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 6, 2012 at 2:48 PM, dougP wrote:
> > Robert:
>
> > TOO
I've ridden the 135 and the 177 extensively. I like them both. I doubt you'd
gain anything from switching, but it might be fun anyway.
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On Sat, Oct 6, 2012 at 2:48 PM, dougP wrote:
> Robert:
>
> TOO LATE IN THE DAY! Those pictures were taken with plenty of
> perfectly good daylight. How could you not at least open the box?
> That bike would have been all over my patio before the UPS guy had
> started his engine. Getting a new
Thanks Patrick,
If I'm understanding the specs correctly, the 136 would provide and
additional 15mm of ramp to move around on... and it looks pretty
flat? I'm most curious about the impact of the wider flare, when on
both on the hoods and in the drops. Examining photos, it also appears
the Rando
The B177 sounds just like the Nitto 185 with 95 mm of reach and 140 mm of
drop. I used to like the 185s and rode them for years (albeit in 42 cm
size); their great defect was the short ramp, especially if you -- as you
know you should -- keep the ends parallel to Mother Earth. But now find the
long
Somewhat related, but without hijacking the below "Drop Bar
Suggestions" thread...
I have 46cm Noodles on two bikes. I like them fine but wonder if
there is something to the flaring on the Randonneur. (hand
position(s) and long ride comfort)
If you stand relaxed with your eyes closed and place
Robert:
TOO LATE IN THE DAY! Those pictures were taken with plenty of
perfectly good daylight. How could you not at least open the box?
That bike would have been all over my patio before the UPS guy had
started his engine. Getting a new Riv is more exiting than Santa
Claus showing up.
OK, so y
This idea has merit. As mentioned a couple of times above, videos of
some of the more common & universal tasks (e.g., flat fix) would be
ideal. The dreaded "...something's clicking back there..." would be
another worthy subject. I think if someone were interested enough to
look it up on-line & s
KM's are great with single track, as long as you don't use a 42cm bar.
On Sat, Oct 6, 2012 at 12:02 PM, PATRICK MOORE wrote:
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> ekoral, if you buy and build it, please report how it does on singletrack.
>
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It must be like pedaling in circles -- people are very different.
On Sat, Oct 6, 2012 at 4:42 PM, Marc Schwartz wrote:
> Beer, bread, pasta, and sweeties make Marc look like Jabba the Hut. That's
> just me, not bein' pedantic here.
> Marc
>
> From: rbw-ow
"..I'm pe-da-lin' in circles over yew.."
-Hank Williams?- ;>)
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Beer, bread, pasta, and sweeties make Marc look like Jabba the Hut. That's just
me, not bein' pedantic here.
Marc
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Cycling like everything in unique for each person. Don't be afraid to play
around it it's a bicycle after all. It's supposed to be FUN :)
I changed to 152mm Sugino XD triple cranks a few years ago for example when
I changed to a midfoot position over the pedal . Yes ... mid foot...
agains
I can't cite evidence except long-term and widespread custom, but while it
may well be true that effective insulin regulation is the -- or *a* -- key
to good metabolism, I can't help but think that 10,000 years of agriculture
-- ie, grains -- can't help but be natural to the human body (dig the
dou
I learned about Mark Sisson through Grant's writings. After looking into
it, it appeared to be a refinement of what I do nutritionally anyway (I
don't forego carbs to the extent that Sisson does--can't give up baking my
own bread!). I find that the closer I adhere to Sisson's points, the more
even
Hey all,
I am looking for one of those nitto chain guards that mount on a 110bcd
crankset. I would like the same size as riv shipped on the quickbeam - to
cover a 42t ring. It looks like these nitto ones are offset a bit to
allow for use with a derailer. Does anyone have a spare in the part
This may be stretching the boundaries of the list mission, but we have
entertained a long discussion around Why We Get Fat, and if memory serves
me right, GP published an article in the Reader, which challenged the
wisdom of extreme forms of exercise, like the Iron Man competition. So...
I rec
No scientific basis for this at all, just a single data point. I agree,
cycling in circles seems good, but only for a short while, and not at all
going uphill. Mostly it helps me to smooth out my motion and that feels
like an advantage. I notice something else that seems to make a bigger
dif
I'd be in the running too if I had money. Jim, if it doesn't sell, be sure
to post it again in a few months. I've got wheels and a disk set and can
easily scavenge the rest.
ekoral, if you buy and build it, please report how it does on singletrack.
On Sat, Oct 6, 2012 at 12:57 PM, Jim Thill - Hia
I see from a closer look that the author basically says the same thing: not
that pedaling in circles accomplishes nothing, but that it does not do so
more efficiently -- with exceptions: he advances mountain biking (ie, up
steep hills in lowish gears, I assume) but the same is true as below. Note
t
My friend! You talk to me. We make deal!
On Saturday, October 6, 2012 1:48:38 PM UTC-5, ekoral wrote:
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> Damn! Such bad timing. I've wanted to build up a karate monkey for quite
> some time, money is just super tight right now. I guess that project is
> gonna have to wait till next summer. Tha
This has been the conventional wisdom for some time:
http://sheldonbrown.com/brandt/ankling.html
I remember when its efficacy *was* the conventional wisdom, from at least
the late 60s to the 80s or 90s.
IME, the truth as usual lies in between: you can pedal in circles to some
effect, but only fo
Damn! Such bad timing. I've wanted to build up a karate monkey for quite some
time, money is just super tight right now. I guess that project is gonna have
to wait till next summer. That's a KILLER bike. If you had a 29er wheel set and
some disc brakes along with it for a reasonable price I mig
The recent finding and acquisition of (not one but) TWO pewter Saluki, Jeremy's
in such fine condition, and Joe's new inna box, merits a major TOAST when the
port comes 'round after dinnerHuzzah, Huzzah!
Congratulations,
Marc
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http://cyclingillustrated.com/pedaling-circles-by-sean-burke/
Nice to see that at least one cycling coach who trains competitive riders
is acknowledging this, especially in Cycling Illustrated (the very-racy
website I've managed to infiltrate with my own totally-non-racy weekly
column, though t
This is great advice which I can confirm by contraries because -- largely
as a result of riding fixed, or perhaps I'm just a bad bike handler -- I
know the results of doing the opposite. So Jim's Axioms: Keep light; look
at your goal; counter steer -- and the Key Principles to Good Bike Handling.
Speaking of...
http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik/3318949114.html
On Saturday, October 6, 2012 9:52:13 AM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote:
> It's a road bike which takes tires big enough to go trail riding
> on..similar to the original LongLow. I had its slightly less costly twin,
> the Romulus. I'
The only thing I'll add is that it's often times the reaction to the
condition which causes the accident. Whether you overlap wheels with the
rider ahead of you or drop a tire into an expansion crack, it's the
reaction that causes the accident.
Here are a few of the things which have worked fo
It's a road bike which takes tires big enough to go trail riding
on..similar to the original LongLow. I had its slightly less costly twin,
the Romulus. I'm not sure it would be ideal for heavily-loaded touring, but
anything short of that - including singletrack where mountain bikers look
at you
That's a nice preview of the frame headed my way. Mine is canti, too. It
will get a pretty standard "Riv build" left over from a slightly-too-big
Hilsen I sold to Peter M. The one oddity among the parts is a mid-'90s "CNC
era" Precision Billet ProShift rear derailer. I haven't decided on bars
y
I went to 37 or 38 mm (at hoods) GB Maes Parallels at Jan Heine's
suggestion even tho' I was used to 42 cm 185s and 46 cm off road drops. I
find the narrower bars extremely comfortable, so much so that I went back
to 42 cm Noodles for the Fargo. (Tho' more comfortable for me, they are
lousy for sin
I have the same 52cm Pewter Saluki... the canti version! This is my first
Riv, my first 650b bike and my first post here. Just picked her up not long
ago. I have most of the parts ready to go, mostly used from here and there,
and am waiting to find wheels. I'll post photos when I'm done, but her
In terms of improving handling skills, you could use something small and
safe, like sidewalk joints. Just to get a feel for having the bike pulled
in the wrong direction. Once it gets big enough to really grab your tire
though, yeah, you're in trouble.
Think if I complain loud enough they'll pu
Thanks. I'm considering the Nitto 176 - can't quite tell from photos of it
- is the angle between the ramps and drops the same as the Noodle?
I'm also considering the Nitto B115. Anyone used that one?
On Monday, October 1, 2012 11:27:18 AM UTC-5, Jeremy Till wrote:
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> The normal Nitto choices (N
nitto m106 nas
grand bois parallel
both are quite excellent.
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I've tried the VO Course and Rando bar, Noodles, some Cinelli's, and some
random vintage bars in traditional and rando varieties. The VO Course bar
was comfy, but I ordered a 46cm and it was too wide. The VO rando had too
much flare for me.
I should say I prefer bars around 42cm with not too sub
Kent Peterson would be the man to do this. He recently started doing "Bike
Talk" on his blog http://kentsbike.com as an homage to the
great-soon-to-be-late-don't-get-bent-out-of-shape Car Talk. He offers some
advice and I've tried to get him to do a series for the "New Home Wrench."
Perhaps "Ju
That's the nut of it. I don't think GP insists on riders trying things over
their head or delving into bike repair as a means to save money or earn
their chops as a cyclist, it's a more of an ethos.
I do my own work but I count myself one of those with whom the physical and
mechanical stuff cli
Well, I shoulda bought one when I could, eh? But I din't. So if you've got
one and you're not using it, lemme know. Thanks!
Rob in Seattle
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