Re: [RBW] Re: 650B Wheels for Touring

2011-02-08 Thread CycloFiend
on 2/8/11 12:30 PM, Montclair BobbyB at montclairbob...@gmail.com wrote: > Speaking of these offset, so-called "dishless" rims, I struggle > getting my head around why this is a preferable option in the first > place. (And I have built one up and ridden it for well over 2 years > without incident

[RBW] 56 or 60 cm frame size

2011-02-08 Thread dean brock
I live in NM and intend on purchasing a Sam Hillborne this year. I would like to find someone with a 56-60cm frame that I might test drive. Dean Brock -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to

[RBW] slightly OT: Somaly Mam on the radio today

2011-02-08 Thread Aaron Thomas
Given Rivendell's charitable giving to the Somaly Mam Foundation, this interview may be of interest to some on the list: http://thestory.org/archive/the_story_020811_full_show.mp3/view -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To pos

[RBW] FS/FT - Tan Acorn M/L Saddle bag

2011-02-08 Thread Bill M.
Last week I saw an Acorn M/L saddlebag up for auction, and bought it on impulse. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rt=nc&nma=true&item=130482373658&si=LkILWIZ3bfQbh%252FXpiYCnPBHdlW4%253D&viewitem=&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWNX%3AIT It arrived yesterday and is as advertised new and apparent

Re: [RBW] Seeking Comments: Mark's Bar vs. Noodle Bar

2011-02-08 Thread Ray Shine
Thanks, Patrick. I currently use Noodles on three of my bikes, and am contemplating using a Mark's Bar (185) in place of Alba's on a fourth bike. I do have a spare set of Noodles hanging from a rafter, but thought I'd try one of the Mark's/ . Thanks for the leadre the Maeses. I'll take a look

[RBW] Re: Barsack reveiws?

2011-02-08 Thread Thomas Lynn Skean
Well, of course! It is so obvious! You can't expect stable handling when carrying any more than a *pint* of milk! Yours, Thomas Lynn Skean On Feb 8, 9:47 pm, doug peterson wrote: >  How many eels can you fit in there? > > Dozens. You'd be amazed. All wriggling around in the bag. Plus a > jacket,

Re: [RBW] New (to me anyway) and quite flat platform pedals ...

2011-02-08 Thread PATRICK MOORE
>From the website: "With the new Crampon Pedals from Canfield Brothers, you effectively lower your bottom bracket by 8mm/.25″ while raising your pedal clearance by the same. Never snag the front edge of your pedal again! This one-of-a-kind pedal also allows for more efficient pedaling by allowing y

[RBW] Re: Barsack reveiws?

2011-02-08 Thread doug peterson
How many eels can you fit in there? Dozens. You'd be amazed. All wriggling around in the bag. Plus a jacket, a quart of milk and a lunch. -- -- Anne Paulson The source of Anne's handling issues has been ID'd. dougP On Feb 8, 4:30 pm, Bruce wrote: > How many eels can you fit in there? > > _

Re: [RBW] Re: Barsack reveiws?

2011-02-08 Thread PATRICK MOORE
Never mind, I see you answered my question before I asked it. Still, the comment has it's place: I didn't like the bar bag on my SH -- it made the steering too wiggly; until I put 15 lb or so in each of two lowrider front panniers and *then* I could barely steer it! Odd. On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 8:

Re: [RBW] Re: Barsack reveiws?

2011-02-08 Thread PATRICK MOORE
How does five lb or so in that bag affect the handling of the Sam Hill? My SH didn't like even a light load in the Ostrich bag I had, and that bag even sat on a front rack. On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 5:04 PM, EastBayGuy wrote: > I have to admit that the barsack is by far my favorite out of all of > m

Re: [RBW] Seeking Comments: Mark's Bar vs. Noodle Bar

2011-02-08 Thread PATRICK MOORE
What am I thinking? I have Noodles on the Fargo where (since it is largely an offroad bike) has the bars some 4" or 5" higher than on my road bikes, and on the Fargo they work very well. The big difference is a far longer and somwhat deeper bend, the long reach mitigated to a degree by the slight b

Re: [RBW] Seeking Comments: Mark's Bar vs. Noodle Bar

2011-02-08 Thread PATRICK MOORE
I can't speak about the Noodle, but the Mark's IIRC is very like the old Nitto 185 which in turn is like the old Cinelli model whose # I forget: medium drop (140 or 145 mm), very short reach (90, IIRC), very short ramps. I use the 185s on 3 bikes and like them a lot, tho' I might switch to even sha

[RBW] Re: FS: tout terrain Silkroad

2011-02-08 Thread GeorgeS
Re what bike do I like better. An Atlantis. I bought it mainly because I was offered such a good deal. Then I decided to use it for a fully loaded tour I took through Vermont and Quebec this summer and it was great. When I got home, I just started riding the Atlantis to work on bad weather days

[RBW] Re: Barsack reveiws?

2011-02-08 Thread AmiSingh
Patrick, I ride a 69cm A Homer Hilsen and find that the reach to a front rack bag is fine. You can check photos of the Mark's Rack and Boxy Rando Bag from Acorn on my Flickr account here for you to get a good idea of what the setup looks like: http://www.flickr.com/photos/amisingh/5330477847/in/

[RBW] New (to me anyway) and quite flat platform pedals ...

2011-02-08 Thread JoelMatthews
Caught these while checking out the latest on Jeff Jones' * site: http://www.canfieldbrothers.com/products/pedals Appears there intended purpose is rock riding. Can't help but think they would make swell urban and all round pedals as well. *Something I'm going to have to force myself to stop b

[RBW] Seeking Comments: Mark's Bar vs. Noodle Bar

2011-02-08 Thread Ray
Seeking comments and preferences Mark's bar against a Nitto "Noodle" bar. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to

Re: [RBW] Re: Barsack reveiws?

2011-02-08 Thread Anne Paulson
On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 4:30 PM, Bruce wrote: > How many eels can you fit in there? Dozens. You'd be amazed. All wriggling around in the bag. Plus a jacket, a quart of milk and a lunch. -- -- Anne Paulson My hovercraft is full of eels -- You received this message because you are subscribed to

Re: [RBW] Re: Barsack reveiws?

2011-02-08 Thread Bruce
How many eels can you fit in there? From: Anne Paulson To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Tue, February 8, 2011 6:21:05 PM Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Barsack reveiws? In contrast, the large Saddlesack mounted on my (other) Atlantis lives there. It ROCKS.

Re: [RBW] Re: Barsack reveiws?

2011-02-08 Thread Anne Paulson
On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 2:43 PM, doug peterson wrote: > > Front load concerns are over-blown.  I have an Acorn Boxy Rando > (similar bag) on my Atlantis & it lives there.  Seldom empty & > wonderfully useful. When I ride my Atlantis with a front bag (mine is an Ortlieb) I notice, and find the han

Re: [RBW] Barsack reveiws?

2011-02-08 Thread Bruce
I picked up a Frost River ( who made them for RBW once upon a time) Sawbill bar tube from a list member and I like it a lot. It came with a removable insert poly stiffener, which I prefer to leave in. No center strap, but a rub pad, and rings if you want to tie the ends off to your handlebars (w

[RBW] Re: Barsack reveiws?

2011-02-08 Thread EastBayGuy
I have to admit that the barsack is by far my favorite out of all of my bags. Fully loaded up it does not affect handling at all and it fits an enormous amount of stuff. I use the D rings on top all the time with mini bungee Cords for leftovers from lunch to an extra sweater or vest.It is a ver

Re: [RBW] Re: Chilly Hilly?

2011-02-08 Thread Rob Harrison
7:55am is early for me to be anywhere...but I'm going to give it a shot! I'll be on my butterscotch Saluki with a tweed Lil' Loafer (most likely in its green raincover) and a grey Berthoud 786 saddlebag. Rob in Seattle On Feb 8, 2011, at 12:10 PM, Linkbeak wrote: > I'll be going by the St

[RBW] Re: SoCal Riv Ride - Feb 12 in SD

2011-02-08 Thread doug peterson
Jim: Same old 35 mm Marathon Supremes as before. Got a brand new set of 40s from Riv a while back but too lazy to change tires right now. Besides, the 35s still have tread showing! No worries. I think anything made in a 40 should be tough enough. In my case, I'm the weak link; the bike & tires

[RBW] Re: Barsack reveiws?

2011-02-08 Thread reynoldslugs
Question: "Barsack?" Answer: "don't leave home without it." http://www.flickr.com/photos/41563482@N06/5381787723/ winter, gloves, food for 6 hours, iPhone, camera no discernable effect on handling, on any of the bikes that regularly wear the Sack (Roadeo, Pereira, Bob Jackson, and Road Custom)

[RBW] Sidepull Hillborne

2011-02-08 Thread James Warren
Sidepull Hillborne. I think it's the Bizarro Universe's Canti-Rom. Or is it that it and the Canti-Rom hail from the Bizarro Universe? Either way, it's awesome! -Original Message- >From: doug peterson >Sent: Feb 8, 2011 2:48 PM >To: RBW Owners Bunch >Subject: [RBW] Re: SoCal Riv Ride

Re: [RBW] Re: SoCal Riv Ride - Feb 12 in SD

2011-02-08 Thread James Warren
What tires, Doug? I think I'm going Marathon Extreme 700x40. Under Silver sidepulls on Hillborne with Bullmoose! 12-36 rear cassette. I'm pretty excited. We'll see if my 1300 ft. daily climb over the past month and a half will be enough. -Jim W. -Original Message- >From: doug peterso

[RBW] Re: SoCal Riv Ride - Feb 12 in SD

2011-02-08 Thread doug peterson
Pumped up the tires on the Atlantis just a couple of weeks ago so they're probably just right for this ride. 3 water bottles plus groceries in the Acorn & I'll be ready to go. Looking forward to seeing the paint job on the Protovelo. dougP On Feb 7, 9:46 pm, Michael_S wrote: > the Ram is fairl

[RBW] Re: Barsack reveiws?

2011-02-08 Thread doug peterson
No experience with the Barsack & hope some owners chime in. But to a couple of your general questions: Front load concerns are over-blown. I have an Acorn Boxy Rando (similar bag) on my Atlantis & it lives there. Seldom empty & wonderfully useful. I lover having access right in front of me to

[RBW] Barsack reveiws?

2011-02-08 Thread bassandbike
My research in the archives show some posting traffic on the Sackville Barsack almost one year ago to the day. It's time for a 1 year review! I've always liked this bag's looks and I'm a MASSIVE Sackville guy. Sackville stuff is the truth. So I'm wondering how the bag performs? What improvement

Re: [RBW] FS: tout terrain Silkroad

2011-02-08 Thread nawrock
Just curious, what bike did you find that was better suited for the job than that awesome bike? Dave Nawrocki Fort Collins, CO - Original Message - From: "GeorgeS" To: "RBW Owners Bunch" Sent: Tuesday, February 8, 2011 6:26:25 AM Subject: [RBW] FS: tout terrain Silkroad I bo

Re: [RBW] Re: 650B Wheels for Touring

2011-02-08 Thread Doug Van Cleve
I don't doubt that comparing bare rims, the Dyad might be stronger. However, the Synergy OC is going to have significantly higher tension on the left rear spokes, so as part of a built wheel I'd be surprised if it isn't stronger. Doug On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 12:42 PM, Michael_S wrote: > Thanks f

Re: [RBW] Re: 650B Wheels for Touring

2011-02-08 Thread Doug Van Cleve
I am not sure it works quite like that. Dishless, or for most, "less dish", allows all the rear spokes to fully/more fully support the wheel. On a highly dished rear wheel (8/9/10+ speed), the drive side spokes are bearing the brunt of the load. The left side spokes are really just centering the

[RBW] Re: SF North Bay Path-Crossing?

2011-02-08 Thread Montclair BobbyB
Wish it were me, Jim... cuz that dude was obviously stylin big time... On Feb 7, 1:55 pm, CycloFiend wrote: > Hey there - > > Climbing north over Camino Alto mid-afternoon on the Quickbeam.  Passed a > southbound seemingly seersucker sporting rider astride a Hilsen with a front > end (tweed?) bag

[RBW] Re: 650B Wheels for Touring

2011-02-08 Thread Montclair BobbyB
Speaking of these offset, so-called "dishless" rims, I struggle getting my head around why this is a preferable option in the first place. (And I have built one up and ridden it for well over 2 years without incident, so I have had no bad experiences per se.) I understand a dished rim is generall

[RBW] Re: Chilly Hilly?

2011-02-08 Thread Linkbeak
I'll be going by the Starbucks on my way to the ferry so will look for others. If not, let's try to rendezvous on the ferry in the low level, Seattle side and if that fails, the bike barn on Bainbridge. I'll be on a blue Ram with the apple green Brooks. Joyce On Feb 7, 7:32 pm, wrharper wrote

[RBW] Re: FS: tout terrain Silkroad

2011-02-08 Thread Montclair BobbyB
WOW, what an awesome ride... Thank God it's too small for me... This bike was the original bike I lusted after in my quest to find a perfect go anywhere, do anything bike. It's got it all... hydraulic discs, built-in rack, steel frame with eccentric BB, dynamo, Rohloff hub Somehow my journey

[RBW] Re: Bags

2011-02-08 Thread grrlyrida
If I had unlimited funds, I would love to get a Guu. They're some of my favorite bag. But Riv has a shopsack and that's one of my other favorite practical bags. On Feb 7, 11:14 pm, Benedikt wrote: > So I'm thinking about making a new bag for my front rack.  I'd like to > finish it by Chilly Hilly

[RBW] Re: 650B Wheels for Touring

2011-02-08 Thread Michael_S
Thanks for the comments. I will proceed as planned. I think I read somewhere that Velocity says that the Dyad is a stiffer rim than the Synergy. ~Mike On Feb 8, 9:23 am, rperks wrote: > I would not worry too badly anout 32 spokes.  Ask how many of us ran > 32 spokes or less for years on our 26"

Re: [RBW] Re: Tires for 26" wheel Atlantis

2011-02-08 Thread PATRICK MOORE
On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 11:37 AM, John Speare wrote: > > Jan Heine published an interesting article a few months ago in Bicycle > Quarterly about the relationship b/t wheel diamter and tire width. The > general conclusion was that as the wheel got smaller in diameter, wider > tires felt "righter.

[RBW] Re: MUSA Rain Pants First Impression

2011-02-08 Thread Jeremy Till
I don't know the specifics of the MUSA pants but this is what I use to wash my rain gear and preserve its coating: http://www.nikwax.com/en-us/products/productdetail.php?productid=268&activityid=1 Nikwax also makes a spray that you use after washing to re-coat areas that might have lost their coa

[RBW] Re: new sweaters/vests

2011-02-08 Thread Ginz
It is a cold, snowy winter in PA. Send a vest here, please!! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-b

Re: [RBW] Re: Tires for 26" wheel Atlantis

2011-02-08 Thread John Speare
Also -- one thing you might consider Anne: the Pasala (non-tourguards) are relatively cheap compared to most tires... so experimenting with a bit more width may be worth the gamble. Jan Heine published an interesting article a few months ago in Bicycle Quarterly about the relationship b/t wheel di

[RBW] Re: 650B Wheels for Touring

2011-02-08 Thread rperks
I would not worry too badly anout 32 spokes. Ask how many of us ran 32 spokes or less for years on our 26" MTB and managed to survive. Also, as a point of reference, I built up a set of 32 hole 650b dyads for my wife almost 6 months ago. I had a set of Phil freewheel hubs in the parts bin, so th

[RBW] Re: 650B Wheels for Touring

2011-02-08 Thread JoelMatthews
Jan Heine sold me a set of NOS 40h Mavic rims which I built up for my forthcoming 650B. I will put Hetres on those for plush touring. I also built up a wheelset with 36h Synergy OC rear to match with Pari Motos and maybe now even the Lierres. Imagine those 8 extra spokes are going to be terribly

[RBW] Re: MUSA Rain Pants First Impression

2011-02-08 Thread BykMor
Hello MUSA Rain Pants wearers, I've been wearing my MRPs (?) as my daily winter wear here in SLC, UT for about 3 months now. I have a question, and maybe a little report. I have been wearing these almost every day through the winter with shorts underneath. Even on days when I don't expect preci

Re: [RBW] 650B Wheels for Touring

2011-02-08 Thread Doug Van Cleve
Hey Mike. If you aren't totally sold on the Dyads, the Synergy OC is only 1mm narrower and will probably build a stronger rear wheel with the same spoke count. Doug On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 8:15 AM, Michael_S wrote: > I am converting an older British Tourer to 650B. I need to have some > wheels

Re: [RBW] 650B Wheels for Touring

2011-02-08 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Tue, 2011-02-08 at 07:15 -0800, Michael_S wrote: > I am converting an older British Tourer to 650B. I need to have some > wheels built and was wondering about spoke count. I know on 700c that > 36 spokes is preferred ( I know some even like 40+). Anyone out there > tour on 650B 32 spoke wheels?

[RBW] 650B Wheels for Touring

2011-02-08 Thread Michael_S
I am converting an older British Tourer to 650B. I need to have some wheels built and was wondering about spoke count. I know on 700c that 36 spokes is preferred ( I know some even like 40+). Anyone out there tour on 650B 32 spoke wheels? I am planning on Dyad rims and I weigh 188 and don't plan

[RBW] Re: Tires for 26" wheel Atlantis

2011-02-08 Thread Beth H
Anne -- my shop carries both 1.25 and 1.5 widths, available from J & B Importers to any bike shop. Tell your LBS you want 'em. (I prefer the 1.5 width on my All-Rounder, but I do remember that the 1.25 width gave a very smooth ride.) Beth On Feb 7, 5:21 pm, Anne Paulson wrote: > I've always use

[RBW] FS: tout terrain Silkroad

2011-02-08 Thread GeorgeS
I bought this bike fully built up from Peter White in 2008. It is the medium size – seat tube is 52cm and, because of the sloping top tube, the stand-over height is 75cm. The dimensions and all the features of the Silkroad are fully explained on Peter White's web site. http://www.peterwhitecycles