Re: [racket] wikipedia on IDE's

2012-08-31 Thread Eduardo Bellani
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 This cheat sheet is accurate. What imo you don't get from it is the solid structure that paredit provides. You cannot unbalance your parens without some effort (like explicitly cutting out a region). This frees up the mental effort of checking out if y

Re: [racket] wikipedia on IDE's

2012-08-31 Thread Robby Findler
On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 11:51 PM, John Clements wrote: > > On Aug 30, 2012, at 9:26 PM, Ramakrishnan Muthukrishnan wrote: > >> On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 9:25 AM, Ramakrishnan Muthukrishnan >> wrote: >>> On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 3:22 AM, John Clements >>> wrote: On Aug 30, 2012, at 2:43 PM

Re: [racket] wikipedia on IDE's

2012-08-30 Thread Ramakrishnan Muthukrishnan
On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 10:21 AM, John Clements wrote: > > On Aug 30, 2012, at 9:26 PM, Ramakrishnan Muthukrishnan wrote: > >> On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 9:25 AM, Ramakrishnan Muthukrishnan >> wrote: >>> On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 3:22 AM, John Clements >>> wrote: On Aug 30, 2012, at 2:43 PM

Re: [racket] wikipedia on IDE's

2012-08-30 Thread John Clements
On Aug 30, 2012, at 9:26 PM, Ramakrishnan Muthukrishnan wrote: > On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 9:25 AM, Ramakrishnan Muthukrishnan > wrote: >> On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 3:22 AM, John Clements >> wrote: >>> >>> On Aug 30, 2012, at 2:43 PM, Eduardo Bellani wrote: >>> What holds me personally to em

Re: [racket] wikipedia on IDE's

2012-08-30 Thread Ramakrishnan Muthukrishnan
On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 9:25 AM, Ramakrishnan Muthukrishnan wrote: > On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 3:22 AM, John Clements > wrote: >> >> On Aug 30, 2012, at 2:43 PM, Eduardo Bellani wrote: >> >>> What holds me personally to emacs is paredit for now. DR is rocking these >>> days, >>> specially debuggin

Re: [racket] wikipedia on IDE's

2012-08-30 Thread John Clements
On Aug 30, 2012, at 8:55 PM, Ramakrishnan Muthukrishnan wrote: > On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 3:22 AM, John Clements > wrote: >> >> On Aug 30, 2012, at 2:43 PM, Eduardo Bellani wrote: >> >>> What holds me personally to emacs is paredit for now. DR is rocking these >>> days, >>> specially debugging

Re: [racket] wikipedia on IDE's

2012-08-30 Thread Ramakrishnan Muthukrishnan
On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 3:22 AM, John Clements wrote: > > On Aug 30, 2012, at 2:43 PM, Eduardo Bellani wrote: > >> What holds me personally to emacs is paredit for now. DR is rocking these >> days, >> specially debugging wise. > > Really? We've got most of what paredit offers, including mapping r

Re: [racket] wikipedia on IDE's

2012-08-30 Thread Asumu Takikawa
On 2012-08-30 15:19:21 -0700, John Clements wrote: > Come to think of it, I'm not sure how commenting-out works in paredit. > What if I insert a semicolon that comments out several close parens, > and no open parens? I would try it myself, but it looks like paredit > is something that needs to be i

Re: [racket] wikipedia on IDE's

2012-08-30 Thread Neil Van Dyke
John Clements wrote at 08/30/2012 06:19 PM: My recollection is that DivaScheme wasn't well-integrated into the existing editor, and relied on re-parsing the input after each keystroke. I think that if you wanted something more like paredit, it might simply suffice to add bindings for the "clo

Re: [racket] wikipedia on IDE's

2012-08-30 Thread John Clements
On Aug 30, 2012, at 3:04 PM, Neil Van Dyke wrote: > Eduardo Bellani wrote at 08/30/2012 06:00 PM: >> Paredit is more structured than what I can get out of emacs. It does >> not allow me >> to get my sexps unbalanced. For instance, to close and align all the >> parens I just go on pressing ')' unt

Re: [racket] wikipedia on IDE's

2012-08-30 Thread Neil Van Dyke
Eduardo Bellani wrote at 08/30/2012 06:00 PM: Paredit is more structured than what I can get out of emacs. It does not allow me to get my sexps unbalanced. For instance, to close and align all the parens I just go on pressing ')' until I hit the end of the function I'm working on. There was

Re: [racket] wikipedia on IDE's

2012-08-30 Thread Eduardo Bellani
*get out of DR On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 7:00 PM, Eduardo Bellani wrote: > Paredit is more structured than what I can get out of emacs. It does > not allow me > to get my sexps unbalanced. For instance, to close and align all the > parens I just go on pressing ')' until I > hit the end of the funct

Re: [racket] wikipedia on IDE's

2012-08-30 Thread Eduardo Bellani
Paredit is more structured than what I can get out of emacs. It does not allow me to get my sexps unbalanced. For instance, to close and align all the parens I just go on pressing ')' until I hit the end of the function I'm working on. On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 6:54 PM, Ray Racine wrote: > I've ena

Re: [racket] wikipedia on IDE's

2012-08-30 Thread Ray Racine
I've enabled auto parens and square with highlight et al in DR and use the sexp movement key combos and I'm pretty happy with it. I was never a heavy user of paredit in emacs, though an admirer. On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 5:43 PM, Eduardo Bellani wrote: > What holds me personally to emacs is pared

Re: [racket] wikipedia on IDE's

2012-08-30 Thread John Clements
On Aug 30, 2012, at 2:43 PM, Eduardo Bellani wrote: > What holds me personally to emacs is paredit for now. DR is rocking these > days, > specially debugging wise. Really? We've got most of what paredit offers, including mapping raw left-paren to matched-pair (this option is currently called "

Re: [racket] wikipedia on IDE's

2012-08-30 Thread Eduardo Bellani
What holds me personally to emacs is paredit for now. DR is rocking these days, specially debugging wise. On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 6:27 PM, Ray Racine wrote: > FWIW, I've used the high quality Quack and then the glorious Geiser for > several years. During this same period, on occasion I'd give DR

Re: [racket] wikipedia on IDE's

2012-08-30 Thread Ray Racine
FWIW, I've used the high quality Quack and then the glorious Geiser for several years. During this same period, on occasion I'd give DR a trial only to quickly retreat. That is no longer the case as of several months ago. I've switched solely to DR and haven't mulled for a moment about reversing

Re: [racket] wikipedia on IDE's

2012-08-30 Thread Neil Van Dyke
I moved Geiser to before Quack in that table, since I understand Geiser is fancier as an IDE (and can use Quack for the editing part). But hopefully the forthcoming Meow will give Geiser a run for its money in the Emacs fanciness department. :) Neil Racket Users list:

Re: [racket] wikipedia on IDE's

2012-08-30 Thread Danny Yoo
On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 5:21 AM, Matthias Felleisen wrote: > > Thanks! I guess all we need now is a WeScheme link -- Matthias Ok, I've added a WeScheme page with some content. Racket Users list: http://lists.racket-lang.org/users

Re: [racket] wikipedia on IDE's

2012-08-30 Thread Matthias Felleisen
Thanks! I guess all we need now is a WeScheme link -- Matthias On Aug 29, 2012, at 11:54 PM, Jose A. Ortega Ruiz wrote: > On Fri, Aug 24 2012, Matthias Felleisen wrote: > >> Geiser is it. Thanks. > > I've updated the details for Geiser in the Wikipedia page on IDE > comparison [0]. Thanks!

Re: [racket] wikipedia on IDE's

2012-08-29 Thread Jose A. Ortega Ruiz
On Fri, Aug 24 2012, Matthias Felleisen wrote: > Geiser is it. Thanks. I've updated the details for Geiser in the Wikipedia page on IDE comparison [0]. Thanks! Cheers, jao [0] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_integrated_development_environments#Racket Racket

Re: [racket] wikipedia on IDE's

2012-08-24 Thread Matthias Felleisen
Okay, I have added Geiser. Could others please contribute more specific details as appropriate? The information I supplied (except for DrRacket) are placeholder. On Aug 24, 2012, at 12:14 PM, ozzloy-racket-users wrote: > maybe you're thinking of geiser? > > On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 11:45 AM

Re: [racket] wikipedia on IDE's

2012-08-24 Thread Matthias Felleisen
Geiser is it. Thanks. On Aug 24, 2012, at 12:14 PM, ozzloy-racket-users wrote: > maybe you're thinking of geiser? > > On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 11:45 AM, Matthias Felleisen > wrote: > > I have added a placeholder for DrRacket, Emacs Quack, and WeScheme: > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki

Re: [racket] wikipedia on IDE's

2012-08-24 Thread ozzloy-racket-users
maybe you're thinking of geiser? On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 11:45 AM, Matthias Felleisen wrote: > > I have added a placeholder for DrRacket, Emacs Quack, and WeScheme: > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_integrated_development_environments#Racket > > Would the concerned party please fil

Re: [racket] wikipedia on IDE's

2012-08-24 Thread Matthias Felleisen
I have added a placeholder for DrRacket, Emacs Quack, and WeScheme: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_integrated_development_environments#Racket Would the concerned party please fill in details? Also I am sure that I have overlooked another Emacs-y thing that has been announced her