Re: [racket-users] You Are a Programmer Now HtDP2e

2018-08-02 Thread Matthias Felleisen
> On Aug 2, 2018, at 11:25 AM, Scott wrote: > > My message does not contain the word “recursion.” > No it doesn't. However, Structure and Interpretation of the Computer Science > Curriculum does, as it does your criticism of SICP's use of (generative) > recursion. Sure, but please don’t pu

Re: [racket-users] You Are a Programmer Now HtDP2e

2018-08-02 Thread Scott
> > My message does not contain the word “recursion.” No it doesn't. However, *Structure and Interpretation of the Computer Science Curriculum* does, as it does your criticism of SICP's use of (generative) recursion. On Thursday, August 2, 2018 at 10:16:26 AM UTC-4, Matthias Felleisen wrote:

Re: [racket-users] You Are a Programmer Now HtDP2e

2018-08-02 Thread Matthias Felleisen
> On Aug 2, 2018, at 9:27 AM, Scott wrote: > > Thank you. I am not technically sufficient to add much to your response. Will > the core curriculum become available online? I am not sure what you mean by “online” here, but the course numbers are spelled out in Northeastern’s online catalogue

Re: [racket-users] You Are a Programmer Now HtDP2e

2018-08-02 Thread Scott
Thank you. I am not technically sufficient to add much to your response. Will the core curriculum become available online? Your criticism of SICP's use of recursion seems to extend to the method for teaching recursion principles in The Little Schemer series, in that it does just that - teaches

Re: [racket-users] You Are a Programmer Now HtDP2e

2018-08-01 Thread Matthias Felleisen
The idea that we need to deal with software systems as if we were natural scientists shows up time and again. Gerry is correct about this but this does not mean we should not teach good attitudes about code and coding etc. ;; - - - As far as I am concerned, SiCP never served the purpose tha

Re: [racket-users] You Are a Programmer Now HtDP2e

2018-08-01 Thread Scott
(Actually, I bought the book and was just working through the Prologue today. And didn't turn the page, it appears. ) Thank you for your response. More specifically, what I was referring to was a response that has gotten a fair bit of circulation given by Gerry Sussman when asked why SICP was n

Re: [racket-users] You Are a Programmer Now HtDP2e

2018-08-01 Thread Matthias Felleisen
> On Aug 1, 2018, at 2:52 PM, Scott wrote: > > The end of the Prologue to HtDP2e ends with a section titled You Are a > Programmer Now. If you have read it you know what it contains (if you haven't > read it then you are not likely able to respond intelligently to this > question). This is

[racket-users] You Are a Programmer Now HtDP2e

2018-08-01 Thread Scott
The end of the Prologue to HtDP2e ends with a section titled You Are a Programmer Now. If you have read it you know what it contains (if you haven't read it then you are not likely able to respond intelligently to this question). My question is: in that section are the authors describing "progr