Re: [racket] list in Beginning Student

2011-10-02 Thread Matthias Felleisen
On Oct 1, 2011, at 7:28 PM, Prabhakar Ragde wrote: > On 10/1/11 8:33 AM, Todd O'Bryan wrote: >> I actually wish it weren't in there. One student discovers it, and >> lots of students start using list instead of cons ... empty. That >> wouldn't be a problem except that most of them don't have the

Re: [racket] list in Beginning Student

2011-10-01 Thread Prabhakar Ragde
On 10/1/11 8:33 AM, Todd O'Bryan wrote: I actually wish it weren't in there. One student discovers it, and lots of students start using list instead of cons ... empty. That wouldn't be a problem except that most of them don't have the conceptual chops yet and I have to fix their confusion. Yes.

Re: [racket] list in Beginning Student

2011-10-01 Thread Stephen Bloch
On Oct 1, 2011, at 8:33 AM, "Todd O'Bryan" wrote: > I actually wish it weren't in there. One student discovers it, and > lots of students start using list instead of cons ... empty. OTOH, once I DO introduce it, it's really nice to be able to write (cons 1 (cons 2 (cons 3 empty))) and (list 1 2

Re: [racket] list in Beginning Student

2011-10-01 Thread Todd O'Bryan
I actually wish it weren't in there. One student discovers it, and lots of students start using list instead of cons ... empty. That wouldn't be a problem except that most of them don't have the conceptual chops yet and I have to fix their confusion. Todd On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 6:05 PM, Stephen

Re: [racket] list in Beginning Student

2011-09-30 Thread Stephen Chang
Yah but when did the "beginner-abbr" language come into existence? I didnt see it in any previous versions: http://download.plt-scheme.org/doc/103p1/html/ On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 6:00 PM, Robby Findler wrote: > That's 200 versions in! :) > > Robby > > On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 4:58 PM, Stephen

Re: [racket] list in Beginning Student

2011-09-30 Thread Robby Findler
That's 200 versions in! :) Robby On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 4:58 PM, Stephen Chang wrote: > Seems like it's been there since the beginning: > > http://download.plt-scheme.org/doc/200/html/beginning/list.html > > > > On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 5:47 PM, Prabhakar Ragde wrote: >> When did `list' sneak i

Re: [racket] list in Beginning Student

2011-09-30 Thread Matthias Felleisen
It has been there for a long time. Think of it as a tease and of 'abbreviation' as quote, and friends. On Sep 30, 2011, at 5:47 PM, Prabhakar Ragde wrote: > When did `list' sneak its way into Beginning Student (without List > Abbreviations)? Or has it always been there, and I have always bee

Re: [racket] list in Beginning Student

2011-09-30 Thread Stephen Chang
Seems like it's been there since the beginning: http://download.plt-scheme.org/doc/200/html/beginning/list.html On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 5:47 PM, Prabhakar Ragde wrote: > When did `list' sneak its way into Beginning Student (without List > Abbreviations)? Or has it always been there, and I have

[racket] list in Beginning Student

2011-09-30 Thread Prabhakar Ragde
When did `list' sneak its way into Beginning Student (without List Abbreviations)? Or has it always been there, and I have always been just clueless? Thanks. --PR _ For list-related administrative tasks: http://lists.racket-lang.org/listinfo/user