15 minutes ago, Sam Tobin-Hochstadt wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 6:46 PM, Eli Barzilay wrote:
> > Three minutes ago, Sam Tobin-Hochstadt wrote:
> >> On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 5:37 PM, Eli Barzilay wrote:
> >> > On Friday, Shriram Krishnamurthi wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> I wonder if he's read the st
On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 3:50 PM, Sam Tobin-Hochstadt wrote:
> That is not true. The event-driven structure of all JavaScript code is
> an important part of why node is fast. That's what JS engines are
> good at, among other things.
imho everything is a trade-off. event-driven has major suck abou
On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 6:46 PM, Eli Barzilay wrote:
> Three minutes ago, Sam Tobin-Hochstadt wrote:
>> On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 5:37 PM, Eli Barzilay wrote:
>> > On Friday, Shriram Krishnamurthi wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I wonder if he's read the structure of JavaScript programs, which --
>> >> because
Three minutes ago, Sam Tobin-Hochstadt wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 5:37 PM, Eli Barzilay wrote:
> > On Friday, Shriram Krishnamurthi wrote:
> >>
> >> I wonder if he's read the structure of JavaScript programs, which --
> >> because of the cooperative multi-tasking structure of JavaScript --
>
On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 5:37 PM, Eli Barzilay wrote:
> On Friday, Shriram Krishnamurthi wrote:
>>
>> I wonder if he's read the structure of JavaScript programs, which --
>> because of the cooperative multi-tasking structure of JavaScript --
>> have to return control to the event loop (ie, "termina
On Friday, Shriram Krishnamurthi wrote:
>
> I wonder if he's read the structure of JavaScript programs, which --
> because of the cooperative multi-tasking structure of JavaScript --
> have to return control to the event loop (ie, "terminate") whenever
> they make an Ajax request, leaving *another
Since this is a public forum, so someone reading that post might also
find this thread, let me point out one more source of confusion.
Continuations do not manufacture more names *than there really are*.
So, no matter how you program (continuations or CPS, Ajax or not) you
still have to come up wi
On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 10:59 AM, Shriram Krishnamurthi
wrote:
> Where to start? Oh, where to start? Every sentence begins half-right
> and then ends up all-wrong. (Even the premise of this flame is wrong.
> Continuations are not solely about managing client-side state.)
>
> I guess it's up t
On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 8:59 PM, Shriram Krishnamurthi
wrote:
> I wonder if he's read the structure of JavaScript programs, which --
> because of the cooperative multi-tasking structure of JavaScript --
> have to return control to the event loop (ie, "terminate") whenever
> they make an Ajax requ
And I take what I said back: they are still crucial. Javascript really
just opens new doors that, pre-javascript, we had kind of wedged our
fingers underneath but hadn't really opened.
For example, just the other day, Casey crashed travelocity when he
tried to buy two tickets at once (he and Diana
Where to start? Oh, where to start? Every sentence begins half-right
and then ends up all-wrong. (Even the premise of this flame is wrong.
Continuations are not solely about managing client-side state.)
I guess it's up to Jay to post the brilliant follow-up that
will...well, who knows what wil
There may be a grain of truth to what he says (that the existence of
javascript in every browser makes continuation-based web servers less
crucial than it was before that) but overall that post just seems
confused.
Robby
On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 7:47 PM, Paul A. Steckler wrote:
> I came across th
I came across this post recently:
http://carcaddar.blogspot.com/2011/06/continuation-based-web-applications.html
The claim is that AJAX makes server-side continuations (invented at
PLT) unnecessary.
-- Paul
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