Re: [racket] [BULK] Fundamentals

2010-10-16 Thread Mathew Kurian
There is a lot of good information here. Thank you all who contributed. Mathew Kurian -- Mathew Kurian Seven Lakes High School Cell: 8324932862 | Home: 2814929526 Do all the good you can, by all the means you can, In all the ways you can, in all the places you can, At all the times you can, to a

Re: [racket] [BULK] Fundamentals

2010-10-15 Thread Richard Cleis
I like these arguments, but those who ask the unanswerable questions about compiling, interpreting, and scripting wouldn't get the details. From your answer and JRMs, I might try to stick to: "Racket is JIT-compiled too", and it even runs lightweight languages like R5RS Scheme. The point is to

Re: [racket] [BULK] Fundamentals

2010-10-14 Thread Joe Marshall
On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 11:14 AM, Richard Cleis wrote: >  Can you explain 'script' ? Nope. But a couple of years back we were debating the definition of a `light-weight language'. I think the best answer to that was ``any language where you don't need a Makefile'' (or `Ant', or an IDE, etc.) --

Re: [racket] [BULK] Fundamentals

2010-10-14 Thread namekuseijin
the ultimate answer is 42. Now you just need the proper question... here's another take: java is JIT-compiled too. It powers a very large industry. The difference to Racket is just a few million dollars worth of hype, man-power and a (largely) static verbose type-system: this provides a tad b

Re: [racket] [BULK] Fundamentals

2010-10-14 Thread Richard Cleis
I can picture John Cleese, wearing a legal wig, delivering your advise in episode n. RAC On Oct 14, 2010, at 2:33 PM, Robby Findler wrote: Ah. Then the answers are "scripting" and "compiled". Unless they want to hear "programming" and "compiled". Basically any of the four possible answer

Re: [racket] [BULK] Fundamentals

2010-10-14 Thread Robby Findler
Ah. Then the answers are "scripting" and "compiled". Unless they want to hear "programming" and "compiled". Basically any of the four possible answers are all correct (insomuch as the questions actually make sense). Robby On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 3:23 PM, Richard Cleis wrote: > Ok. But...  Carrio

Re: [racket] [BULK] Fundamentals

2010-10-14 Thread Richard Cleis
Ok. But... Carrions de Dwimmerlaik provide funding; they want answers to these questions. RAC On Oct 14, 2010, at 2:16 PM, Robby Findler wrote: 'Begone foul dwimmerlaik, lord of carrion! Leave the dead in peace!' On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 2:56 PM, namekuseijin wrote: he would probabl

Re: [racket] [BULK] Fundamentals

2010-10-14 Thread Robby Findler
'Begone foul dwimmerlaik, lord of carrion! Leave the dead in peace!' On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 2:56 PM, namekuseijin wrote: > he would probably look at you funny and point you to Amazon.com and > some deep obscure Lord of the Rings passage. > > On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 4:36 PM, Richard Cleis wrote:

Re: [racket] [BULK] Fundamentals

2010-10-14 Thread namekuseijin
he would probably look at you funny and point you to Amazon.com and some deep obscure Lord of the Rings passage. On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 4:36 PM, Richard Cleis wrote: > How would he respond to questions that I must answer: "You use Racket? For > scripting or for programming? Is Racket interprete

Re: [racket] [BULK] Fundamentals

2010-10-14 Thread Richard Cleis
How would he respond to questions that I must answer: "You use Racket? For scripting or for programming? Is Racket interpreted or compiled?" rac On Oct 14, 2010, at 12:51 PM, namekuseijin wrote: > On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 3:14 PM, Richard Cleis wrote: >> As someone who doesn't know better, I li

Re: [racket] [BULK] Fundamentals

2010-10-14 Thread namekuseijin
On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 3:14 PM, Richard Cleis wrote: > As someone who doesn't know better, I like your post.  Can you explain > 'script' ? as Larry Wall put it: "Suppose you went back to Ada Lovelace and asked her the difference between a script and a program. She'd probably look at you funny,

Re: [racket] [BULK] Fundamentals

2010-10-14 Thread Richard Cleis
As someone who doesn't know better, I like your post. Can you explain 'script' ? rac > The definitions are clear and have not changed. If you have a machine > that runs programs written in language M, but you have a program > written in language L, you can proceed in one of two ways: > > 1)

Re: [racket] [BULK] Fundamentals

2010-10-14 Thread Joe Marshall
Wow! There is a lot of confusion on this list by people who know better. Mathew Kurian As long as the processor can only read only numbers (binary), Racket cannot be interpreted by the machine before being translated into another language such as Assembly. John Clements There is a histo

Re: [racket] [BULK] Fundamentals

2010-10-14 Thread Shriram Krishnamurthi
"I am a random number checker. Here, give me a number and I'll tell you whether it's random." --John Clements (who else could it be?) On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 9:59 AM, Robby Findler wrote: > Wow, 1 is the first random digit! Cool. > > Robby > > On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 8:55 AM, Jens Axel Søgaard

Re: [racket] [BULK] Fundamentals

2010-10-14 Thread Robby Findler
Wow, 1 is the first random digit! Cool. Robby On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 8:55 AM, Jens Axel Søgaard wrote: > 2010/10/14 Hendrik Boom : > >> There was actually a book published in the 50's or 60's with a million >> random digits that were generated in this fashion. > > Here it is: > > http://books.g

Re: [racket] [BULK] Fundamentals

2010-10-14 Thread Neil Van Dyke
Robby Findler wrote at 10/14/2010 09:46 AM: Or, if you aren't worried about speed, you can script this website: http://www.random.org/ :) And if you *are* concerned about speed and pretty good entropy, on Linux with normal PC hardware, you can use the "/dev/random" device. I actually u

Re: [racket] [BULK] Fundamentals

2010-10-14 Thread Jens Axel Søgaard
2010/10/14 Hendrik Boom : > There was actually a book published in the 50's or 60's with a million > random digits that were generated in this fashion. Here it is: http://books.google.com/books?id=XvwX1fxryIgC&printsec=frontcover&dq=random+numbers+million&hl=en&ei=pAu3TIqkL8mZOoOUuaIJ&sa=X&oi=bo

Re: [racket] [BULK] Fundamentals

2010-10-14 Thread Robby Findler
Or, if you aren't worried about speed, you can script this website: http://www.random.org/ Robby _ For list-related administrative tasks: http://lists.racket-lang.org/listinfo/users

Re: [racket] [BULK] Fundamentals

2010-10-14 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 11:06:50PM -0400, Stephen Bloch wrote: > > On Oct 13, 2010, at 7:29 PM, Mathew Kurian wrote: > >> -- Is Racket an interpreted language? If not, how does it convert to >> machine/binary code? >> > As you know, Racket evolved from Scheme, which evolved from Lisp, which > in

Re: [racket] [BULK] Fundamentals

2010-10-13 Thread Stephen Bloch
On Oct 13, 2010, at 7:29 PM, Mathew Kurian wrote: -- Is Racket an interpreted language? If not, how does it convert to machine/binary code? As you know, Racket evolved from Scheme, which evolved from Lisp, which in its earliest implementations (fifty years ago) was interpreted rather tha