Re: [racket] Strange difference between (define (for-syntax)) and (define-for-syntax)

> >> Is require-for-syntax even a form in #lang racket? I thought it doesn't >> exist outside the mzscheme legacy language, at least according to >> >> http://docs.racket-lang.org/mzscheme/Old_Syntactic_Forms.html#(form._((lib._mzscheme/main..rkt)._require-for-syntax)) > > I agree with you. It is

Re: [racket] wikipedia on IDE's

On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 10:21 AM, John Clements wrote: > > On Aug 30, 2012, at 9:26 PM, Ramakrishnan Muthukrishnan wrote: > >> On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 9:25 AM, Ramakrishnan Muthukrishnan >> wrote: >>> On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 3:22 AM, John Clements >>> wrote: On Aug 30, 2012, at 2:43 PM

Re: [racket] wikipedia on IDE's

On Aug 30, 2012, at 9:26 PM, Ramakrishnan Muthukrishnan wrote: > On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 9:25 AM, Ramakrishnan Muthukrishnan > wrote: >> On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 3:22 AM, John Clements >> wrote: >>> >>> On Aug 30, 2012, at 2:43 PM, Eduardo Bellani wrote: >>> What holds me personally to em

Re: [racket] wikipedia on IDE's

On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 9:25 AM, Ramakrishnan Muthukrishnan wrote: > On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 3:22 AM, John Clements > wrote: >> >> On Aug 30, 2012, at 2:43 PM, Eduardo Bellani wrote: >> >>> What holds me personally to emacs is paredit for now. DR is rocking these >>> days, >>> specially debuggin

Re: [racket] wikipedia on IDE's

On Aug 30, 2012, at 8:55 PM, Ramakrishnan Muthukrishnan wrote: > On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 3:22 AM, John Clements > wrote: >> >> On Aug 30, 2012, at 2:43 PM, Eduardo Bellani wrote: >> >>> What holds me personally to emacs is paredit for now. DR is rocking these >>> days, >>> specially debugging

Re: [racket] wikipedia on IDE's

On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 3:22 AM, John Clements wrote: > > On Aug 30, 2012, at 2:43 PM, Eduardo Bellani wrote: > >> What holds me personally to emacs is paredit for now. DR is rocking these >> days, >> specially debugging wise. > > Really? We've got most of what paredit offers, including mapping r

Re: [racket] call-with-composable-continuation and DrRacket

OK I think I grok it. When I write in the definitions window of DrRacket #lang racket (+ 100 (call-with-composable-continuation (λ (k) (+ (k 1) 1000 what actually gets executed is at least: (call-with-values (+ 100 (call-with-composable-continuation (λ (k) (+ (k 1) 1000

Re: [racket] wikipedia on IDE's

On 2012-08-30 15:19:21 -0700, John Clements wrote: > Come to think of it, I'm not sure how commenting-out works in paredit. > What if I insert a semicolon that comments out several close parens, > and no open parens? I would try it myself, but it looks like paredit > is something that needs to be i

Re: [racket] My new Racket blog....

Hi Jay, Since your post, I've been reading and thoroughly enjoying your blog... thank you! Some newbie questions and comments: 1) I clicked the "download" button on your boggle posting and read it into DrRacket (5.3). When I hit run I get: ..\..\..\Program Files\Racket\collects\mred\private\sn

Re: [racket] wikipedia on IDE's

John Clements wrote at 08/30/2012 06:19 PM: My recollection is that DivaScheme wasn't well-integrated into the existing editor, and relied on re-parsing the input after each keystroke. I think that if you wanted something more like paredit, it might simply suffice to add bindings for the "clo

Re: [racket] rackunit not in textual?

On 08/30/2012 04:53 PM, J G Cho wrote: I am greeted by ... collection not found collection: "rackuint" in my v5.3 (textual). Is it because rackunit relies/depends on some graphics/window? Is there an alternative? FWIW, rackunit (the non-gui parts) will be included in the textual distributi

Re: [racket] call-with-composable-continuation and DrRacket

call-with-continuation-prompt is your friend in the definitions window (call-with-continuation-prompt (λ _ (+ 100 (call-with-composable-continuation (λ (k) (+ 1000 (k 1

Re: [racket] wikipedia on IDE's

On Aug 30, 2012, at 3:04 PM, Neil Van Dyke wrote: > Eduardo Bellani wrote at 08/30/2012 06:00 PM: >> Paredit is more structured than what I can get out of emacs. It does >> not allow me >> to get my sexps unbalanced. For instance, to close and align all the >> parens I just go on pressing ')' unt

Re: [racket] call-with-composable-continuation and DrRacket

On Aug 30, 2012, at 5:48 PM, Harry Spier wrote: > When I run this in the definitions window of DrRacket > #lang racket > (+ 100 > (call-with-composable-continuation >(λ (k) (+ 1000 (k 1) > > it prints > 101 > 1201 > in the interactions window. > Why doesn't it just print 1201 ? As Jo

Re: [racket] wikipedia on IDE's

Eduardo Bellani wrote at 08/30/2012 06:00 PM: Paredit is more structured than what I can get out of emacs. It does not allow me to get my sexps unbalanced. For instance, to close and align all the parens I just go on pressing ')' until I hit the end of the function I'm working on. There was

Re: [racket] wikipedia on IDE's

*get out of DR On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 7:00 PM, Eduardo Bellani wrote: > Paredit is more structured than what I can get out of emacs. It does > not allow me > to get my sexps unbalanced. For instance, to close and align all the > parens I just go on pressing ')' until I > hit the end of the funct

Re: [racket] wikipedia on IDE's

Paredit is more structured than what I can get out of emacs. It does not allow me to get my sexps unbalanced. For instance, to close and align all the parens I just go on pressing ')' until I hit the end of the function I'm working on. On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 6:54 PM, Ray Racine wrote: > I've ena

Re: [racket] wikipedia on IDE's

I've enabled auto parens and square with highlight et al in DR and use the sexp movement key combos and I'm pretty happy with it. I was never a heavy user of paredit in emacs, though an admirer. On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 5:43 PM, Eduardo Bellani wrote: > What holds me personally to emacs is pared

Re: [racket] call-with-composable-continuation and DrRacket

On Aug 30, 2012, at 2:48 PM, Harry Spier wrote: > When I run this in the definitions window of DrRacket > #lang racket > (+ 100 > (call-with-composable-continuation >(λ (k) (+ 1000 (k 1) > > it prints > 101 > 1201 > in the interactions window. > Why doesn't it just print 1201 ? > > Ex

Re: [racket] wikipedia on IDE's

On Aug 30, 2012, at 2:43 PM, Eduardo Bellani wrote: > What holds me personally to emacs is paredit for now. DR is rocking these > days, > specially debugging wise. Really? We've got most of what paredit offers, including mapping raw left-paren to matched-pair (this option is currently called "

[racket] call-with-composable-continuation and DrRacket

When I run this in the definitions window of DrRacket #lang racket (+ 100 (call-with-composable-continuation (λ (k) (+ 1000 (k 1) it prints 101 1201 in the interactions window. Why doesn't it just print 1201 ? Executing it in the interactions window gives the expected result of 1201.

Re: [racket] wikipedia on IDE's

What holds me personally to emacs is paredit for now. DR is rocking these days, specially debugging wise. On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 6:27 PM, Ray Racine wrote: > FWIW, I've used the high quality Quack and then the glorious Geiser for > several years. During this same period, on occasion I'd give DR

Re: [racket] wikipedia on IDE's

FWIW, I've used the high quality Quack and then the glorious Geiser for several years. During this same period, on occasion I'd give DR a trial only to quickly retreat. That is no longer the case as of several months ago. I've switched solely to DR and haven't mulled for a moment about reversing

Re: [racket] rackunit not in textual?

J G Cho wrote at 08/30/2012 04:53 PM: ... collection not found collection: "rackuint" in my v5.3 (textual). Is it because rackunit relies/depends on some graphics/window? If it does, I assume that this could be changed, and perhaps should be. Having a non-GUI option for running test sui

[racket] rackunit not in textual?

I am greeted by ... collection not found collection: "rackuint" in my v5.3 (textual). Is it because rackunit relies/depends on some graphics/window? Is there an alternative? jGc Racket Users list: http://lists.racket-lang.org/users

Re: [racket] wikipedia on IDE's

I moved Geiser to before Quack in that table, since I understand Geiser is fancier as an IDE (and can use Quack for the editing part). But hopefully the forthcoming Meow will give Geiser a run for its money in the Emacs fanciness department. :) Neil Racket Users list:

Re: [racket] wikipedia on IDE's

On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 5:21 AM, Matthias Felleisen wrote: > > Thanks! I guess all we need now is a WeScheme link -- Matthias Ok, I've added a WeScheme page with some content. Racket Users list: http://lists.racket-lang.org/users

Re: [racket] 5.3's "mzc optimizer" log-debug, and log "facility" in general

(Sorry guys, I should have read ahead in my mailbox. Please disregard.) On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 11:52 AM, Robby Findler wrote: > On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 9:32 AM, Greg Hendershott > wrote: >> Thanks, Robby. >> >> Do you mean I could do something like this? >> >> (define (enable-log-output level)

Re: [racket] 5.3's "mzc optimizer" log-debug, and log "facility" in general

On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 9:32 AM, Greg Hendershott wrote: > Thanks, Robby. > > Do you mean I could do something like this? > > (define (enable-log-output level) > (let ([r (make-log-receiver (current-logger) level)]) > (thread > (lambda () >(let loop () > (match (sync r)

Re: [racket] 5.3's "mzc optimizer" log-debug, and log "facility" in general

Matthew Flatt wrote at 08/30/2012 11:28 AM: At Thu, 30 Aug 2012 10:50:01 -0400, Greg Hendershott wrote: So you can define multiple and hierarchical loggers. It seems like this is the intended way to handle something like a "facility"? It looks like we're going to add a `current-opti

Re: [racket] 5.3's "mzc optimizer" log-debug, and log "facility" in general

Right, I'm not saying these log messages are bad. Because if they're bad, then I'm being evil. My http and aws collections are loaded with log-debug, at a detail of every HTTP request and response header line. Being able to do this was critical to getting it working, and keeping it there to keepin

Re: [racket] 5.3's "mzc optimizer" log-debug, and log "facility" in general

At Thu, 30 Aug 2012 10:50:01 -0400, Greg Hendershott wrote: > So you can define multiple and hierarchical loggers. It seems like > this is the intended way to handle something like a "facility"? It looks like we're going to add a `current-optimization-logger' parameter to Racket, and the optimizer

Re: [racket] 5.3's "mzc optimizer" log-debug, and log "facility" in general

On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 10:49 AM, Matthias Felleisen wrote: > > I conjecture that the log messages you are seeing are > intended for the optimization coach only. It is worth > our while to check into making these messages 'private'. These messages were indeed added for the optimization coach, but

Re: [racket] 5.3's "mzc optimizer" log-debug, and log "facility" in general

I just looked at the "14.5 Logging" docs for the first time in a year or more. So you can define multiple and hierarchical loggers. It seems like this is the intended way to handle something like a "facility"? I'll ponder this more and see if I

Re: [racket] 5.3's "mzc optimizer" log-debug, and log "facility" in general

I conjecture that the log messages you are seeing are intended for the optimization coach only. It is worth our while to check into making these messages 'private'. -- Matthias On Aug 30, 2012, at 10:32 AM, Greg Hendershott wrote: > Thanks, Robby. > > Do you mean I could do something like t

Re: [racket] 5.3's "mzc optimizer" log-debug, and log "facility" in general

Thanks, Robby. Do you mean I could do something like this? (define (enable-log-output level) (let ([r (make-log-receiver (current-logger) level)]) (thread (lambda () (let loop () (match (sync r) [(vector lvl msg v) (printf "; [~a] ~a\n"

Re: [racket] 5.3's "mzc optimizer" log-debug, and log "facility" in general

On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 6:29 AM, Greg Hendershott wrote: > I have some code with copious log-debug calls. Occasionally I set > ",log debug" to see the output. > > New in 5.3, I'm seeing many dozens of outputs like the following: > > ; [debug] mzc optimizer: inlining: involving: core727 in: unpack7

Re: [racket] wikipedia on IDE's

Thanks! I guess all we need now is a WeScheme link -- Matthias On Aug 29, 2012, at 11:54 PM, Jose A. Ortega Ruiz wrote: > On Fri, Aug 24 2012, Matthias Felleisen wrote: > >> Geiser is it. Thanks. > > I've updated the details for Geiser in the Wikipedia page on IDE > comparison [0]. Thanks!

[racket] 5.3's "mzc optimizer" log-debug, and log "facility" in general

I have some code with copious log-debug calls. Occasionally I set ",log debug" to see the output. New in 5.3, I'm seeing many dozens of outputs like the following: ; [debug] mzc optimizer: inlining: involving: core727 in: unpack728 in module: 's3 size: 149 threshold: 320 These are interleaved wi