Re: [R-sig-eco] report out by t.test

2014-03-24 Thread Manuel SpĂ­nola
ecology-bounces@r- >> project.org] on behalf of Richard Boyce [boy...@nku.edu] >> Sent: 24 March 2014 13:23 >> To: r-sig-ecology@r-project.org >> Subject: Re: [R-sig-eco] report out by t.test >> >> Mike, >> >> There is no way that your data meet the assu

Re: [R-sig-eco] report out by t.test

2014-03-24 Thread Zoltan Botta-Dukat
behalf of Richard Boyce [boy...@nku.edu] Sent: 24 March 2014 13:23 To: r-sig-ecology@r-project.org Subject: Re: [R-sig-eco] report out by t.test Mike, There is no way that your data meet the assumptions of a t-test (normal distributions, equal variance). A nonparametric Mann-Whitney (aka Wilcoxon

Re: [R-sig-eco] report out by t.test

2014-03-24 Thread Richard Boyce
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Re: [R-sig-eco] report out by t.test

2014-03-24 Thread Li Wen
g] On Behalf Of Jari Oksanen Sent: Monday, 24 March 2014 10:43 PM To: Richard Boyce; r-sig-ecology@r-project.org Subject: Re: [R-sig-eco] report out by t.test Except that t-test does not assume that *observations* are normally distributed, nor that variances are equal. Avoid non-parametric tests:

Re: [R-sig-eco] report out by t.test

2014-03-24 Thread Jari Oksanen
From: r-sig-ecology-boun...@r-project.org [r-sig-ecology-boun...@r-project.org] on behalf of Richard Boyce [boy...@nku.edu] Sent: 24 March 2014 13:23 To: r-sig-ecology@r-project.org Subject: Re: [R-sig-eco] report out by t.test Mike, There is no way that your data meet the assumptions of a t-test

Re: [R-sig-eco] report out by t.test

2014-03-24 Thread Richard Boyce
Mike, There is no way that your data meet the assumptions of a t-test (normal distributions, equal variance). A nonparametric Mann-Whitney (aka Wilcoxon) test is much better suited to your data. Here's what I got when I ran it: Q<-c(13,0,10,2,0,0,1,0,0,1,5) WD<-c(0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1) wilcox.

Re: [R-sig-eco] report out by t.test

2014-03-24 Thread B.-Markus Clarin
I'd like to add that to me Q and WD don't look normally distributed. Isn't that a prerequisite for using the t.test to test for diffrences between the means? Please correct me if I am wrong. Cheers, Mango - B.-Markus Clarin aka Mango --

Re: [R-sig-eco] report out by t.test

2014-03-23 Thread Baldwin, Jim -FS
The sentence "alternative hypothesis: true difference in means is not equal to 0" is stating what the alternative hypothesis is and not that your particular difference in means is significantly different from zero. That sentence would appear (when you have a two-tailed test) no matter what the