Re: [R-pkg-devel] r-quantities seeking feedback

2017-10-07 Thread David Hugh-Jones
Hi Iñaki, OK, it sounds like we have no practical disagreement: you're planning to keep separate packages and then have a third one for integration. That will be fine for people like me who don't necessarily want to specify units for our regressions. I look forward to seeing this! Cheers, David

Re: [R-pkg-devel] r-quantities seeking feedback

2017-10-07 Thread Iñaki Úcar
2017-10-06 22:38 GMT+02:00 Bill Denney : > Hi Iñaki and David, > > I fully see the need in a standardized unit package, and I understand the > need for propagation of errors (though I'm in the opposite camp to David > where I usually need unit tracking and conversion and rarely need error > prop

Re: [R-pkg-devel] r-quantities seeking feedback

2017-10-07 Thread Iñaki Úcar
2017-10-06 22:28 GMT+02:00 David Hugh-Jones : > Many measurements have no unit, but some uncertainty - e.g. the b and se > from an arbitrary regression. Can you give specific examples of the > advantages from binding these packages tightly together? As Duncan already pointed out, the units of b an

Re: [R-pkg-devel] r-quantities seeking feedback

2017-10-06 Thread Duncan Murdoch
On 06/10/2017 4:28 PM, David Hugh-Jones wrote: Many measurements have no unit, but some uncertainty - e.g. the b and se from an arbitrary regression. Can you give specific examples of the advantages from binding these packages tightly together? Just to nitpick: in the regression y = a + b x, b

Re: [R-pkg-devel] r-quantities seeking feedback

2017-10-06 Thread Bill Denney
Hi Iñaki and David, I fully see the need in a standardized unit package, and I understand the need for propagation of errors (though I'm in the opposite camp to David where I usually need unit tracking and conversion and rarely need error propagation-- though that's because my error propagation

Re: [R-pkg-devel] r-quantities seeking feedback

2017-10-06 Thread David Hugh-Jones
Many measurements have no unit, but some uncertainty - e.g. the b and se from an arbitrary regression. Can you give specific examples of the advantages from binding these packages tightly together? On Fri, 6 Oct 2017 at 21:23, Iñaki Úcar wrote: > El 6 oct. 2017 19:13, "David Hugh-Jones" > escri

Re: [R-pkg-devel] r-quantities seeking feedback

2017-10-06 Thread Iñaki Úcar
El 6 oct. 2017 19:13, "David Hugh-Jones" escribió: One question that comes to mind: what's the synergy? I e why are units and errors best handled together? I use standard errors a lot, but never units... I would like a standard way to represent uncertainty but don't think I need the other stuff.

Re: [R-pkg-devel] r-quantities seeking feedback

2017-10-06 Thread David Hugh-Jones
One question that comes to mind: what's the synergy? I e why are units and errors best handled together? I use standard errors a lot, but never units... I would like a standard way to represent uncertainty but don't think I need the other stuff. Cheers, D On Fri, 6 Oct 2017 at 17:25, Iñaki Úcar w

[R-pkg-devel] r-quantities seeking feedback

2017-10-06 Thread Iñaki Úcar
Dear all, Edzer Pebesma and I are combining forces into a new GitHub organisation called "r-quantities", to which we have moved the CRAN packages 'units', 'errors' and 'constants'. The idea is to write a new package called 'quantities' to integrate 'units' and 'errors' into a comprehensive solutio