Re: [R-pkg-devel] Handling Not-Always-Needed Dependencies? - Part 2

2016-08-04 Thread Paul Gilbert
On 08/04/2016 11:51 AM, Dirk Eddelbuettel wrote: On 4 August 2016 at 11:46, Paul Gilbert wrote: | If my package has a test that needs another package, but that package is | not needed in the /R code of my package, then I indicate it as | "Suggests", not as "Depends" nor as "Imports". If that

Re: [R-pkg-devel] Handling Not-Always-Needed Dependencies? - Part 2

2016-08-04 Thread Duncan Murdoch
On 04/08/2016 12:55 PM, Bill Denney wrote: On 8/4/2016 11:51 AM, Dirk Eddelbuettel wrote: On 4 August 2016 at 11:46, Paul Gilbert wrote: | If my package has a test that needs another package, but that package is | not needed in the /R code of my package, then I indicate it as | "Suggests", not a

Re: [R-pkg-devel] Handling Not-Always-Needed Dependencies? - Part 2

2016-08-04 Thread Uwe Ligges
On 04.08.2016 18:55, Bill Denney wrote: On 8/4/2016 11:51 AM, Dirk Eddelbuettel wrote: On 4 August 2016 at 11:46, Paul Gilbert wrote: | If my package has a test that needs another package, but that package is | not needed in the /R code of my package, then I indicate it as | "Suggests", not as

Re: [R-pkg-devel] Handling Not-Always-Needed Dependencies? - Part 2

2016-08-04 Thread Gábor Csárdi
On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 5:48 PM, Duncan Murdoch wrote: [...] > I'd say it's up to you as the author of the test. Would skipping that test > mean that your package was not adequately tested? If so, then you should > get an error if it isn't available, because otherwise people will think > they've

Re: [R-pkg-devel] Handling Not-Always-Needed Dependencies? - Part 2

2016-08-04 Thread Bill Denney
On 8/4/2016 11:51 AM, Dirk Eddelbuettel wrote: On 4 August 2016 at 11:46, Paul Gilbert wrote: | If my package has a test that needs another package, but that package is | not needed in the /R code of my package, then I indicate it as | "Suggests", not as "Depends" nor as "Imports". If that packa

Re: [R-pkg-devel] Handling Not-Always-Needed Dependencies? - Part 2

2016-08-04 Thread Duncan Murdoch
On 04/08/2016 11:46 AM, Paul Gilbert wrote: (One question from the thread Handling Not-Always-Needed Dependencies?) I hope not to start another long tangled thread, but I have a basic confusion which I think has a yes/no answer and I would like to know if there is agreement on this point (or is

Re: [R-pkg-devel] Handling Not-Always-Needed Dependencies? - Part 2

2016-08-04 Thread Uwe Ligges
On 04.08.2016 17:46, Paul Gilbert wrote: (One question from the thread Handling Not-Always-Needed Dependencies?) I hope not to start another long tangled thread, but I have a basic confusion which I think has a yes/no answer and I would like to know if there is agreement on this point (or is i

Re: [R-pkg-devel] Handling Not-Always-Needed Dependencies? - Part 2

2016-08-04 Thread Dirk Eddelbuettel
On 4 August 2016 at 11:46, Paul Gilbert wrote: | If my package has a test that needs another package, but that package is | not needed in the /R code of my package, then I indicate it as | "Suggests", not as "Depends" nor as "Imports". If that package is not | available when I run R CMD check,

[R-pkg-devel] Handling Not-Always-Needed Dependencies? - Part 2

2016-08-04 Thread Paul Gilbert
(One question from the thread Handling Not-Always-Needed Dependencies?) I hope not to start another long tangled thread, but I have a basic confusion which I think has a yes/no answer and I would like to know if there is agreement on this point (or is it only me that is confused as usual). I

Re: [R-pkg-devel] Pkgs with ToS violations

2016-08-04 Thread Bob Rudis
Thx folks. I didn't mean to cause a stir :-) I've had colleagues receive cease & desists (and worse) before and it's been my experience that a large # of folks have no idea these type of cite restrictions exist. -Bob On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 6:36 AM, Uwe Ligges wrote: > CRAN will follow up with t

Re: [R-pkg-devel] Pkgs with ToS violations

2016-08-04 Thread Barry Rowlingson
ROpenSci's onboarding process has a checkbox for confirming that the package "does not violate the Terms of Service of any service it interacts with.": https://github.com/ropensci/onboarding/blob/master/issue_template.md I also have a vague memory of this discussion a few years ago on R-help/-dev

Re: [R-pkg-devel] Handling Not-Always-Needed Dependencies?

2016-08-04 Thread Duncan Murdoch
On 03/08/2016 9:15 PM, Dirk Eddelbuettel wrote: On 3 August 2016 at 17:35, Duncan Murdoch wrote: | No, you are reading something into my messages that isn't there. I | think I understand your suggestion now (CRAN should test with no | Suggested packages present, not with all of them present).

Re: [R-pkg-devel] Pkgs with ToS violations

2016-08-04 Thread Uwe Ligges
CRAN will follow up with the package maintainer. Best, Uwe Ligges On 04.08.2016 10:50, peter dalgaard wrote: On 04 Aug 2016, at 05:21 , Dirk Eddelbuettel wrote: On 3 August 2016 at 22:26, Bob Rudis wrote: | I came across https://cran.rstudio.com/web/packages/boxoffice/index.html | in CRAN

Re: [R-pkg-devel] Pkgs with ToS violations

2016-08-04 Thread Duncan Murdoch
On 03/08/2016 10:26 PM, Bob Rudis wrote: I came across https://cran.rstudio.com/web/packages/boxoffice/index.html in CRAN today and while I don't expect CRAN to be a legal authority, should there not be some kind of policy for excluding R packages that deliberately violate (data) site ToS? (I'm a

Re: [R-pkg-devel] Pkgs with ToS violations

2016-08-04 Thread peter dalgaard
On 04 Aug 2016, at 05:21 , Dirk Eddelbuettel wrote: > > On 3 August 2016 at 22:26, Bob Rudis wrote: > | I came across https://cran.rstudio.com/web/packages/boxoffice/index.html > | in CRAN today and while I don't expect CRAN to be a legal authority, > | should there not be some kind of policy f