Re: [R] finding a stable cluster for kmeans

2007-09-26 Thread Wiebke Timm
On 26.09.2007, at 09:54, Prof Brian Ripley wrote: > On Wed, 26 Sep 2007, Friedrich Leisch wrote: > >>> On Tue, 25 Sep 2007 20:16:05 -0400, >>> Wiebke Timm (WT) wrote: >> >> > You might want to check if there is a neural gas algorithm in R. >> > kmeans generally has a high variance since

Re: [R] finding a stable cluster for kmeans

2007-09-26 Thread Prof Brian Ripley
On Wed, 26 Sep 2007, Friedrich Leisch wrote: >> On Tue, 25 Sep 2007 20:16:05 -0400, >> Wiebke Timm (WT) wrote: > > > You might want to check if there is a neural gas algorithm in R. > > kmeans generally has a high variance since it is very dependent on > > the initialization. Neural gas

Re: [R] finding a stable cluster for kmeans

2007-09-26 Thread Friedrich Leisch
> On Tue, 25 Sep 2007 20:16:05 -0400, > Wiebke Timm (WT) wrote: > You might want to check if there is a neural gas algorithm in R. > kmeans generally has a high variance since it is very dependent on > the initialization. Neural gas overcomes this problem by using a > ranked li

Re: [R] finding a stable cluster for kmeans

2007-09-25 Thread Wiebke Timm
You might want to check if there is a neural gas algorithm in R. kmeans generally has a high variance since it is very dependent on the initialization. Neural gas overcomes this problem by using a ranked list of neighbouring data points instead using data points directly. It is more stable (

Re: [R] finding a stable cluster for kmeans

2007-09-25 Thread Wayne.W.Jones
Hi there, If the final predicted clusters vary according to a random starting cluster then I suspect that your data is not clustering very well!! A few reasons for this may be: 1) There are genuinely no clusters in the data! 2) You have chosen a poor distance measure. 3) You have picked an i