Re: [R] Using lme (nlme) to find the conditional variance of therandom effects

2007-11-13 Thread Douglas Bates
On Nov 13, 2007 1:02 AM, Rick Bilonick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 2007-11-13 at 01:03 -0500, Rick Bilonick wrote: > > > > > Is there some way to get ranef with postVar=TRUE to show what the > > variances are, or what the lower and upper bounds are? qqmath makes nice > > plots but I need t

Re: [R] Using lme (nlme) to find the conditional variance of therandom effects

2007-11-12 Thread Rick Bilonick
On Tue, 2007-11-13 at 01:03 -0500, Rick Bilonick wrote: > > Is there some way to get ranef with postVar=TRUE to show what the > variances are, or what the lower and upper bounds are? qqmath makes nice > plots but I need to obtain the numerical values. > > Rick B. > I found a way: attr(ranef(lm

Re: [R] Using lme (nlme) to find the conditional variance of therandom effects

2007-11-12 Thread Rick Bilonick
On Mon, 2007-11-12 at 16:45 -0500, Doran, Harold wrote: > No, don't reach into the bVar slot. Use the proper extractor function > ranef() with postVar=T. There is no similar function for lme() > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of

Re: [R] Using lme (nlme) to find the conditional variance of therandom effects

2007-11-12 Thread Doran, Harold
No, don't reach into the bVar slot. Use the proper extractor function ranef() with postVar=T. There is no similar function for lme() > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Bilonick > Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 4:40 PM > To: R Hel