Re: [R] Robust or Sandwich estimates in lmer2

2007-09-20 Thread David Duffy
Abdus Sattar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> asked: > > I am trying to find the robust (or sandwich) estimates of the standard > error of fixed effects parameter estimates using the package "lmer2". > Others have already pointed out that this is not implemented in lmer2. You could try a delete-n jackknife, w

Re: [R] Robust or Sandwich estimates in lmer2

2007-09-19 Thread Abdus Sattar
Message From: Thomas Lumley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Doran, Harold" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: Sundar Dorai-Raj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Abdus Sattar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 1:13:20 PM Subject: Re: [

Re: [R] Robust or Sandwich estimates in lmer2

2007-09-19 Thread Thomas Lumley
On Wed, 19 Sep 2007, Doran, Harold wrote: > This has come up before and I'll again ask the question "why would you > want robust standard errors in lmer"? And I'll again answer: using lmer() does not automatically guarantee correct model specification, either for the correlation structure or for

Re: [R] Robust or Sandwich estimates in lmer2

2007-09-19 Thread Doran, Harold
estimate of the true sampling variance. > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sundar Dorai-Raj > Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 11:42 AM > To: Abdus Sattar > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re:

Re: [R] Robust or Sandwich estimates in lmer2

2007-09-19 Thread Sundar Dorai-Raj
Abdus Sattar said the following on 9/19/2007 7:03 AM: > Dear R-Users: > > I am trying to find the robust (or sandwich) estimates of the standard error > of fixed effects parameter estimates using the package "lmer2". In model-1, I > used "robust=TRUE" on the other, in model-2, I used "robust=FAL