Re: [R] Building static HTML help pages in R 2.10.x on Windows

2010-01-09 Thread Dieter Menne
Michal Kulich wrote: > > This works. Not entirely invisible but not a big deal about that. > The R code run within Rterm is > > options(help_type="html",help.ports=6800) > help.start() > library(audio) > wait(-1) > > I tried to run your code with System.sleep(10) instead of wait(-1) insi

Re: [R] Building static HTML help pages in R 2.10.x on Windows

2010-01-08 Thread hadley wickham
> I see. Well, I never lacked any of these capabilities... Please understand > that people who use R to do their work may have different objectives than the > developers - and they form the majority of R users. Well how about a documentation system that could look back over your history and noti

Re: [R] Building static HTML help pages in R 2.10.x on Windows

2010-01-08 Thread Dieter Menne
Hi, Duncan, >>If that works, writing up instructions would be a useful contribution. It was always a bit of a mess, and after 15 minutes this morning I had to go. So I hoped someone else would jump the wagon. Dieter -- View this message in context: http://n4.nabble.com/Building-s

Re: [R] Building static HTML help pages in R 2.10.x on Windows

2010-01-08 Thread Duncan Murdoch
Dieter Menne wrote: Duncan Murdoch wrote: What's so hard about leaving an R session running, and using bookmarks as Dieter described? It pollutes my space, and I am a Window-closing maniac, so it won't survive the next attack.

Re: [R] Building static HTML help pages in R 2.10.x on Windows

2010-01-08 Thread Duncan Murdoch
Michal Kulich wrote: On 7.1.2010 20:22, Duncan Murdoch wrote: A more useful example than ls() would be methods(). I think it would be nice to have a list of methods included in the man page for a generic function, and links to their pages if they have their own man pages. You might want t

Re: [R] Building static HTML help pages in R 2.10.x on Windows

2010-01-08 Thread Dieter Menne
Duncan Murdoch wrote: > > What's so hard about leaving an R session running, and using bookmarks > as Dieter described? > It pollutes my space, and I am a Window-closing maniac, so it won't survive the next attack.

Re: [R] Building static HTML help pages in R 2.10.x on Windows

2010-01-07 Thread Michal Kulich
On 7.1.2010 20:22, Duncan Murdoch wrote: > A more useful example than ls() would be methods(). I think it > would be nice to have a list of methods included in the man page for > a generic function, and links to their pages if they have their own > man pages. You might want to list all installe

Re: [R] Building static HTML help pages in R 2.10.x on Windows

2010-01-07 Thread Duncan Murdoch
On 07/01/2010 2:58 PM, Kevin Wright wrote: On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 9:32 AM, Duncan Murdoch wrote: > On 07/01/2010 10:00 AM, Michal Kulich wrote: > >> On 7.1.2010 15:52, Duncan Murdoch wrote: >> > Not necessarily. The current help system can display information about >> > the current session, e.

Re: [R] Building static HTML help pages in R 2.10.x on Windows

2010-01-07 Thread hadley wickham
>>  I have to close all the tabs and call help to open them >> again.  Also, the R-supplied java tool for searching help is ancient and >> underwhelming. > > Then contribute a new one. And this would be pretty easy to, since you can program it in R. There are heaps of possibilities - you could use

Re: [R] Building static HTML help pages in R 2.10.x on Windows

2010-01-07 Thread hadley wickham
> What I'd really like is for someone who has good taste to redesign the look > of the whole system.  I think one or two people are working on packages to > do this, and I'd much rather spend time providing whatever low level support > they need, rather than doing it myself. Have you looked at add

Re: [R] Building static HTML help pages in R 2.10.x on Windows

2010-01-07 Thread Kevin Wright
On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 9:32 AM, Duncan Murdoch wrote: > On 07/01/2010 10:00 AM, Michal Kulich wrote: > >> On 7.1.2010 15:52, Duncan Murdoch wrote: >> > Not necessarily. The current help system can display information about >> > the current session, e.g. the result of ls(), as a simple example.

Re: [R] Building static HTML help pages in R 2.10.x on Windows

2010-01-07 Thread Duncan Murdoch
On 07/01/2010 2:16 PM, Kevin Wright wrote: Well, among other things, if my global environment becomes cluttered/corrupt/etc and I quit R, then restart R, the links in my browser are now dead. You weren't following Dieter's instructions, then. I have to close all the tabs and call help to ope

Re: [R] Building static HTML help pages in R 2.10.x on Windows

2010-01-07 Thread Kevin Wright
Well, among other things, if my global environment becomes cluttered/corrupt/etc and I quit R, then restart R, the links in my browser are now dead. I have to close all the tabs and call help to open them again. Also, the R-supplied java tool for searching help is ancient and underwhelming. A de

Re: [R] Building static HTML help pages in R 2.10.x on Windows

2010-01-07 Thread Duncan Murdoch
On 07/01/2010 11:36 AM, Jonathan Baron wrote: For what it is worth, I would gladly sacrifice this capability in order to be able to consult all my R help pages through a Firefox bookmark to the packages listing (which is what I used to do, and will do again, when I get time to either rebuild from

Re: [R] Building static HTML help pages in R 2.10.x on Windows

2010-01-07 Thread Jonathan Baron
For what it is worth, I would gladly sacrifice this capability in order to be able to consult all my R help pages through a Firefox bookmark to the packages listing (which is what I used to do, and will do again, when I get time to either rebuild from source or get the forthcoming Fedora RPM, which

Re: [R] Building static HTML help pages in R 2.10.x on Windows

2010-01-07 Thread Duncan Murdoch
On 07/01/2010 10:00 AM, Michal Kulich wrote: On 7.1.2010 15:52, Duncan Murdoch wrote: > Not necessarily. The current help system can display information about > the current session, e.g. the result of ls(), as a simple example. But > if you use a single background session you won't get relevant

Re: [R] Building static HTML help pages in R 2.10.x on Windows

2010-01-07 Thread Duncan Murdoch
On 07/01/2010 9:51 AM, Gabor Grothendieck wrote: On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 9:20 AM, Duncan Murdoch wrote: > On 07/01/2010 9:05 AM, Michael Friendly wrote: >> >> Michal Kulich wrote: >> > On 7.1.2010 9:49, Dieter Menne wrote: >> > > I am sorry to say that the new dynamic help is a HUGE nuisance to m

Re: [R] Building static HTML help pages in R 2.10.x on Windows

2010-01-07 Thread Duncan Murdoch
On 07/01/2010 9:47 AM, Michal Kulich wrote: On 7.1.2010 12:18, Duncan Murdoch wrote: > You don't need Rgui, you could run Rterm, which would have a smaller > footprint. It's not very hard to start it and minimize it, but if you > want it running invisibly, you'll need to figure out how to hide th

Re: [R] Building static HTML help pages in R 2.10.x on Windows

2010-01-07 Thread Michal Kulich
On 7.1.2010 15:52, Duncan Murdoch wrote: > Not necessarily. The current help system can display information about > the current session, e.g. the result of ls(), as a simple example. But > if you use a single background session you won't get relevant information. > > Duncan Murdoch Sorry, I mus

Re: [R] Building static HTML help pages in R 2.10.x on Windows

2010-01-07 Thread Gabor Grothendieck
On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 9:20 AM, Duncan Murdoch wrote: > On 07/01/2010 9:05 AM, Michael Friendly wrote: >> >> Michal Kulich wrote: >> > On 7.1.2010 9:49, Dieter Menne wrote: >> > > I am sorry to say that the new dynamic help is a HUGE nuisance to me. >> > > Had to revert back to R 2.9 because of th

Re: [R] Building static HTML help pages in R 2.10.x on Windows

2010-01-07 Thread Michal Kulich
On 7.1.2010 12:18, Duncan Murdoch wrote: > You don't need Rgui, you could run Rterm, which would have a smaller > footprint. It's not very hard to start it and minimize it, but if you > want it running invisibly, you'll need to figure out how to hide the icon. This works. Not entirely invisible bu

Re: [R] Building static HTML help pages in R 2.10.x on Windows

2010-01-07 Thread Duncan Murdoch
On 07/01/2010 9:05 AM, Michael Friendly wrote: Michal Kulich wrote: > On 7.1.2010 9:49, Dieter Menne wrote: > > I am sorry to say that the new dynamic help is a HUGE nuisance to me. Had to revert back to R 2.9 because of that :-(. > > Michal I too have reverted to 2.9.2 on Win XP because I fi

Re: [R] Building static HTML help pages in R 2.10.x on Windows

2010-01-07 Thread Michael Friendly
Michal Kulich wrote: On 7.1.2010 9:49, Dieter Menne wrote: I am sorry to say that the new dynamic help is a HUGE nuisance to me. Had to revert back to R 2.9 because of that :-(. Michal I too have reverted to 2.9.2 on Win XP because I find html help to be far less convenient than the compile

Re: [R] Building static HTML help pages in R 2.10.x on Windows

2010-01-07 Thread Duncan Murdoch
Michal Kulich wrote: On 7.1.2010 9:49, Dieter Menne wrote: Thanks for that code. I fully agree that the current help system is a step back. For stable bookmarking, my workaround is to put options(help.ports=6800) into the profile, so I can created links like http://127.0.0.1:6800/library/

Re: [R] Building static HTML help pages in R 2.10.x on Windows

2010-01-07 Thread Michal Kulich
On 7.1.2010 9:49, Dieter Menne wrote: > > Thanks for that code. I fully agree that the current help system is a step > back. For stable bookmarking, my workaround is to put > > options(help.ports=6800) > > into the profile, so I can created links like > > http://127.0.0.1:6800/library/gmodels/

Re: [R] Building static HTML help pages in R 2.10.x on Windows

2010-01-07 Thread Dieter Menne
Steve Rowley wrote: > > Since wanting static HTML help pages for bookmarking or reading while > R is not running sounds kind of reasonable, it would be nice if > something like this were available for Windows users of R. It would > be a shame if everybody else had to figure this out in detail,

Re: [R] Building static HTML help pages in R 2.10.x on Windows

2010-01-06 Thread Steve Rowley
>Date: Sat, 02 Jan 2010 17:38:31 +0100 >From: Uwe Ligges > >Steve Rowley wrote: >> Is there any way to do this from the Windows binary .zip files, or from the >> installations >> generated thereby? > > Well, internally, you can do somewthing as R's help system does, but it > is documented to b

Re: [R] Building static HTML help pages in R 2.10.x on Windows

2010-01-02 Thread Uwe Ligges
Steve Rowley wrote: Heinz Tuechler wrote: At 21:40 22.12.2009, Steve Rowley wrote: (a) how to build the static HTML help pages of all currently installed packages under Windows, [...] At least two ways: Way 1: reinstall all those packages from sources using R CMD INSTALL --html Way 2

Re: [R] Building static HTML help pages in R 2.10.x on Windows

2009-12-27 Thread Steve Rowley
>Heinz Tuechler wrote: >> At 21:40 22.12.2009, Steve Rowley wrote: >>> (a) how to build the static HTML help pages of all currently >>> installed packages under Windows, [...] > >At least two ways: > >Way 1: reinstall all those packages from sources using > R CMD INSTALL --html > >Way 2: go t

Re: [R] Building static HTML help pages in R 2.10.x on Windows

2009-12-27 Thread Jonathan Baron
Slightly (but not completely) irrelevant comment. The next version of the R rpm packaged by Fedora WILL include static web pages by default (so I'm told by Tom [Spot] Callaway). This also goes for the R packages that they package as RPMs. This is irrelevant for Windows users of course, but other

Re: [R] Building static HTML help pages in R 2.10.x on Windows

2009-12-27 Thread Uwe Ligges
Heinz Tuechler wrote: Instead of an answer, may I add question c) can someone state that it is impossible to generate static HTML help pages under Windows? No, it is not impossible, see my answers below. At 21:40 22.12.2009, Steve Rowley wrote: I upgraded to R2.10.1pat and discovered, a

Re: [R] Building static HTML help pages in R 2.10.x on Windows

2009-12-27 Thread Heinz Tuechler
Instead of an answer, may I add question c) can someone state that it is impossible to generate static HTML help pages under Windows? At 21:40 22.12.2009, Steve Rowley wrote: I upgraded to R2.10.1pat and discovered, along with everybody else, that static HTML pages are no longer the default.