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> project.org] On Behalf Of Tal Galili
> Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2009 3:16 AM
> To: John Fox
> Cc: r-help@r-project.org; Michael Friendly; Nils Skotara; Peter
> Dalgaard
> Subject: Re: [R] Anova and unbalanced designs
>
> Dear Joh
> From: Tal Galili [mailto:tal.gal...@gmail.com]
> Sent: February-15-09 5:16 AM
> To: John Fox
> Cc: Peter Dalgaard; Nils Skotara; r-help@r-project.org; Michael Friendly
> Subject: Re: [R] Anova and unbalanced designs
>
> Dear John - thank you for your detailed answer and help.
regards,
Tal
On Sat, Feb 14, 2009 at 7:09 PM, John Fox wrote:
> Dear Tal,
>
> > -Original Message-----
> > From: Tal Galili [mailto:tal.gal...@gmail.com]
> > Sent: February-14-09 10:23 AM
> > To: John Fox
> > Cc: Peter Dalgaard; Nils Skotara; r-help@
Dear Tal,
> -Original Message-
> From: Tal Galili [mailto:tal.gal...@gmail.com]
> Sent: February-14-09 10:23 AM
> To: John Fox
> Cc: Peter Dalgaard; Nils Skotara; r-help@r-project.org; Michael Friendly
> Subject: Re: [R] Anova and unbalanced designs
>
> Hello
> Thanks, Peter, for pointing this out.
>
> John
>
> ------------------
> John Fox, Professor
> Department of Sociology
> McMaster University
> Hamilton, Ontario, Canada
> web: socserv.mcmaster.ca/jfox
>
>
> > -Original Message-
> > Fr
09 6:31 PM
> To: Nils Skotara
> Cc: John Fox; r-help@r-project.org; 'Michael Friendly'
> Subject: Re: [R] Anova and unbalanced designs
>
> Nils Skotara wrote:
> > Dear John,
> >
> > thank you again! You replicated the type III result I got in SPSS!
Nils Skotara wrote:
Dear John,
thank you again! You replicated the type III result I got in SPSS! When I
calculate Anova() type II:
Univariate Type II Repeated-Measures ANOVA Assuming Sphericity
SS num Df Error SS den Df F Pr(>F)
between 4.8000 1 9.0
fore, this problem is so simple, that I find it hard to understand
> where there's room for error, but I wanted to check against SAS to test my
> sanity (a procedure that will likely get a rise out of some list members).
>
> Maybe you should send a message to the SPSS help list.
>
v.mcmaster.ca/jfox
> -Original Message-
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On
> Behalf Of Skotara
> Sent: January-24-09 6:30 AM
> To: John Fox
> Cc: r-help@r-project.org
> Subject: Re: [R] Anova and unbalanced designs
>
> D
Dear John,
thank you for your answer. You are right, I also would not have expected
a divergent result.
I have double-checked it again. No, I got type-III tests.
When I use type II, I get the same results in SPSS as in 'Anova' (using
also type-II tests).
My guess was that the somehow weighted
Dear Nils,
This is a pretty simple design, and I wouldn't have thought that there was
much room for getting different results. More generally, but not here (since
there's only one between-subject factor), one shouldn't use
contr.treatment() with "type-III" tests, as you did. Is it possible that yo
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