Thomas Adams; peter dalgaard
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Subject: Re: [R] the joy of spreadsheets (off-topic)
One might wonder if the "Excel error" was indeed THAT or
perhaps a way to get the desired results, give the other
issues in their analysis?
The prior for the incompetence/malice quest
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To: Thomas Adams; peter dalgaard
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Subject: Re: [R] the joy of spreadsheets (off-topic)
> One might wonder if the "Excel error" was indeed THAT or
> perhaps a way to get the desired results, give the other
> issues in their analysis?
The prior for the incompe
> From a quick read, the Excel error prior for incompetence
> looks high but some of the other issues hint that the prior
> for the overall findings was remarkably in favor of malice.
That's p(malice|evidence), not p(malice); surely that must be the posterior? ;-)
'tain't a great advert fo
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>> One might wonder if the "Excel error" was indeed THAT or
>> perhaps a way to get the desired results, give the ot
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> > One might wonder if th
> One might wonder if the "Excel error" was indeed THAT or
> perhaps a way to get the desired results, give the other
> issues in their analysis?
The prior for the incompetence/malice question is usually best set pretty
heavily in favour of incompetence ...
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On 4/17/2013 5:18 AM, Kevin Wright wrote:
On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 4:33 PM, Jim Lemon wrote:
On 04/17/2013 03:25 AM, Sarah Goslee wrote:
The final point does relate to Excel and any application that hides what is
going on to the casual observer. I will treasure this URL to give to anyone
who
On Apr 24, 2013, at 20:01 , Thomas Adams wrote:
> One might wonder if the "Excel error" was indeed THAT or perhaps a way to get
> the desired results, give the other issues in their analysis?
I think I'd reserve that suspicion for what they did with the NZ data:
Growth for 1946-49: 7.7, 11.9,
One might wonder if the "Excel error" was indeed THAT or perhaps a way to
get the desired results, give the other issues in their analysis?
On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 11:58 AM, peter dalgaard wrote:
> In case you haven't noticed, this is making the rounds in the media,
> including a handful of ref
In case you haven't noticed, this is making the rounds in the media, including
a handful of references to R. See e.g.
http://news.slashdot.org/story/13/04/17/0215211/excel-error-contributes-to-problems-with-austerity-study
I suppose we can't fortune()'ify anonymous quotes, but I kind of like thi
On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 1:25 PM, Sarah Goslee wrote:
> Given that we occasionally run into problems with comparing Excel
> results to R results, and other spreadsheet-induced errors, I thought
> this might be of interest.
>
> http://www.nextnewdeal.net/rortybomb/researchers-finally-replicated-rein
On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 4:33 PM, Jim Lemon wrote:
> On 04/17/2013 03:25 AM, Sarah Goslee wrote:
The final point does relate to Excel and any application that hides what is
> going on to the casual observer. I will treasure this URL to give to anyone
> who chastises my moaning when I have to perf
On Apr 17, 2013, at 10:16 , Shane Carey wrote:
> Can you resend this link please?
>
Psst:
https://stat.ethz.ch/pipermail/r-help/2013-April/351669.html
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Peter Dalgaard, Professor
Center for Statistics, Copenhagen Business School
Solbjerg Plads 3, 2000 Frederiksberg, Denmark
Phone: (+45)381
Can you resend this link please?
Thanks
On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 10:33 PM, Jim Lemon wrote:
> On 04/17/2013 03:25 AM, Sarah Goslee wrote:
>
>> ...
>> Ouch.
>>
>> (Note: I know nothing about the site, the author of the article, or
>> the study in question. I was pointed to it by someone else. Bu
On 04/17/2013 03:25 AM, Sarah Goslee wrote:
...
Ouch.
(Note: I know nothing about the site, the author of the article, or
the study in question. I was pointed to it by someone else. But if
true: highly problematic.)
Sarah
There seem to be three major problems described here, and only one is
m
math.ethz.ch
> Subject: Re: [R] the joy of spreadsheets (off-topic)
>
> What a terrific article. Thanks for sharing! The more we critically
> examine how research is actually done the more frightened we become.
>
> Frank
>
> --
> Frank E Harrell Jr Profess
What a terrific article. Thanks for sharing! The more we critically
examine how research is actually done the more frightened we become.
Frank
--
Frank E Harrell Jr Professor and Chairman School of Medicine
Department of Biostatistics Vanderbilt University
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e, 16 Apr 2013 13:25:57 -0400
> To: r-help@r-project.org
> Subject: [R] the joy of spreadsheets (off-topic)
>
> Given that we occasionally run into problems with comparing Excel
> results to R results, and other spreadsheet-induced errors, I thought
> this might be of inte
Given that we occasionally run into problems with comparing Excel
results to R results, and other spreadsheet-induced errors, I thought
this might be of interest.
http://www.nextnewdeal.net/rortybomb/researchers-finally-replicated-reinhart-rogoff-and-there-are-serious-problems
The punchline:
"If
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