Re: [R] no true negative data, need roc curve

2012-08-30 Thread vjyns
Hi, again i had small clarification regarding the discussion. I had 6 images of two threshold test, so can i plot 6 roc for each individual image? or can i plot two roc curve (threshold 1 all images summed up and similar to threshold 2)? which is the correct one? Please clarify me in this re

Re: [R] no true negative data, need roc curve

2012-08-20 Thread vjyns
Hi, Thanks a lot. I learned that the ROC used in my area was a modified one like you mentioned, but i want to stick to that if i want to put my result to such community. I was new to this topic and R, you guided me a lot and made me to understand. thank you.

Re: [R] no true negative data, need roc curve

2012-08-20 Thread Jessica Streicher
Just to say, i still consider it wrong (what is called the fpr there simply isn't the fpr, and the graph will not be what is commonly known as an ROC curve), at least the definition list puts down slightly different names for it. What else exactly do you need then though? you now know how to plot

Re: [R] no true negative data, need roc curve

2012-08-17 Thread vjyns
This is not a typo error, in feature detection when it was not able to calculate 'tn' then they are using this formula and there are more papers (referred journal) which quote same formula. In the same manner i had also got the tp, fp and fn. Based on it can some one suggest me to plot the ROC curv

Re: [R] no true negative data, need roc curve

2012-08-17 Thread Jessica Streicher
Above mentioned formula is wrong - maybe a typo http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Receiver_operating_characteristic The false positive rate is the rate of false positives, meaning how many of the total negatives (all in reality negatives(N), that is, all negatives falsely classified as positives(fp)

Re: [R] no true negative data, need roc curve

2012-08-17 Thread vjyns
Hi, thanks for the quick response, but as i said in my case due to two different threshold the detected features will differ. Moreover, there is some standard /refined/ formula in calculating the tpr and fpr. herewith i had attached the refined formula from a standard international journal h

Re: [R] no true negative data, need roc curve

2012-08-17 Thread Jessica Streicher
Okay, first of a point in ROC space is spanned by true positive rate and false positive rate. Now you need to decide if you want to plot a curve for each image or maybe a curve for the complete data (add all together). In your case you only have 2 thresholds, so that makes the "curves" a little

Re: [R] no true negative data, need roc curve

2012-08-16 Thread vjyns
TN=0 in all cases, i had only tp, fp and fn for 6 images (two sets). suggest me how plot the roc curve. -- View this message in context: http://r.789695.n4.nabble.com/no-true-negative-data-need-roc-curve-tp4640474p4640558.html Sent from the R help mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Re: [R] no true negative data, need roc curve

2012-08-16 Thread vjyns
hi, TN=0 in all cases, with this how can i plot the ROC, i need help in this regard. thank you. Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2012 09:47:20 -0700 From: ml-node+s789695n4640509...@n4.nabble.com To: vijay...@outlook.com Subject: Re: no true negative data, need roc curve To clarify: Is TN = 0 o

Re: [R] no true negative data, need roc curve

2012-08-16 Thread Jessica Streicher
To clarify: Is TN = 0 or do you not know TN (N)? On 16.08.2012, at 11:51, vjyns wrote: > Hi, > > I want to plot ROC curve for my detection algorithm which detects > features in different images at two different thresholds. > > 6 different images used and obtained tp, fp and fn. No tn in my c

[R] no true negative data, need roc curve

2012-08-16 Thread vjyns
Hi, I want to plot ROC curve for my detection algorithm which detects features in different images at two different thresholds. 6 different images used and obtained tp, fp and fn. No tn in my case. in first threshold run i obtained 6 values of tp,fp and fn. In second threshold run agian i got