Re: [R] Anova and unbalanced designs

2009-02-16 Thread Greg Snow
...@r-project.org [mailto:r-help-boun...@r- > project.org] On Behalf Of Tal Galili > Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2009 3:16 AM > To: John Fox > Cc: r-help@r-project.org; Michael Friendly; Nils Skotara; Peter > Dalgaard > Subject: Re: [R] Anova and unbalanced designs > > Dear Joh

Re: [R] Anova and unbalanced designs

2009-02-15 Thread John Fox
> From: Tal Galili [mailto:tal.gal...@gmail.com] > Sent: February-15-09 5:16 AM > To: John Fox > Cc: Peter Dalgaard; Nils Skotara; r-help@r-project.org; Michael Friendly > Subject: Re: [R] Anova and unbalanced designs > > Dear John - thank you for your detailed answer and help.

Re: [R] Anova and unbalanced designs

2009-02-15 Thread Tal Galili
regards, Tal On Sat, Feb 14, 2009 at 7:09 PM, John Fox wrote: > Dear Tal, > > > -Original Message----- > > From: Tal Galili [mailto:tal.gal...@gmail.com] > > Sent: February-14-09 10:23 AM > > To: John Fox > > Cc: Peter Dalgaard; Nils Skotara; r-help@

Re: [R] Anova and unbalanced designs

2009-02-14 Thread John Fox
Dear Tal, > -Original Message- > From: Tal Galili [mailto:tal.gal...@gmail.com] > Sent: February-14-09 10:23 AM > To: John Fox > Cc: Peter Dalgaard; Nils Skotara; r-help@r-project.org; Michael Friendly > Subject: Re: [R] Anova and unbalanced designs > > Hello

Re: [R] Anova and unbalanced designs

2009-02-14 Thread Tal Galili
> Thanks, Peter, for pointing this out. > > John > > -------------- > John Fox, Professor > Department of Sociology > McMaster University > Hamilton, Ontario, Canada > web: socserv.mcmaster.ca/jfox > > > > -Original Message- > > Fr

Re: [R] Anova and unbalanced designs

2009-01-24 Thread John Fox
09 6:31 PM > To: Nils Skotara > Cc: John Fox; r-help@r-project.org; 'Michael Friendly' > Subject: Re: [R] Anova and unbalanced designs > > Nils Skotara wrote: > > Dear John, > > > > thank you again! You replicated the type III result I got in SPSS!

Re: [R] Anova and unbalanced designs

2009-01-24 Thread Peter Dalgaard
Nils Skotara wrote: Dear John, thank you again! You replicated the type III result I got in SPSS! When I calculate Anova() type II: Univariate Type II Repeated-Measures ANOVA Assuming Sphericity SS num Df Error SS den Df F Pr(>F) between 4.8000 1 9.0

Re: [R] Anova and unbalanced designs

2009-01-24 Thread Nils Skotara
fore, this problem is so simple, that I find it hard to understand > where there's room for error, but I wanted to check against SAS to test my > sanity (a procedure that will likely get a rise out of some list members). > > Maybe you should send a message to the SPSS help list. >

Re: [R] Anova and unbalanced designs

2009-01-24 Thread John Fox
v.mcmaster.ca/jfox > -Original Message- > From: r-help-boun...@r-project.org [mailto:r-help-boun...@r-project.org] On > Behalf Of Skotara > Sent: January-24-09 6:30 AM > To: John Fox > Cc: r-help@r-project.org > Subject: Re: [R] Anova and unbalanced designs > > D

Re: [R] Anova and unbalanced designs

2009-01-24 Thread Skotara
- I hope this helps, John -- John Fox, Professor Department of Sociology McMaster University Hamilton, Ontario, Canada web: socserv.mcmaster.ca/jfox -Original Message----- From: r-help-boun...@r-project.org [mailto:r-help-boun...@r-project.org]

Re: [R] Anova and unbalanced designs

2009-01-23 Thread John Fox
x27; 0.1 ' ' 1 -- snip -- I hope this helps, John -- John Fox, Professor Department of Sociology McMaster University Hamilton, Ontario, Canada web: socserv.mcmaster.ca/jfox > -Original Message- > From: r-help-boun...@r-project.

[R] Anova and unbalanced designs

2009-01-23 Thread Skotara
Dear R-list! My question is related to an Anova including within and between subject factors and unequal group sizes. Here is a minimal example of what I did: library(car) within1 <- c(1,2,3,4,5,6,4,5,3,2); within2 <- c(3,4,3,4,3,4,3,4,5,4) values <- data.frame(w1 = within1, w2 = within2) valu