Re: [R] Inappropriate color name

2020-11-19 Thread Abby Spurdle
> Surely these colors can be changed > to something less offensive- my suggestion is "blush." > How can I find out who to contact about making this happen? Yes, they can. blush <- "#CD5C5C" mycols <- function () { #your code here... I note that: (1) Changing existing code (esp in base p

Re: [R] [EXT] Re: Inappropriate color name

2020-11-19 Thread David Winsemius
Can you guys take this off the list? I don't think that discussing these concerns is within the bounds of the list mandate. The original questioner has gotten the answer to his question (namely to correspond with the R-Core)  and this section of the thread is clearly not about how to solve prob

Re: [R] [EXT] Re: Inappropriate color name

2020-11-19 Thread David Wright
Is it really the proposal that the word 'Indian' should not be allowed when referring to someone or something from India? Context is important. Innumerable words can offend if used with that intent, but we don't banish them because they have common standard meaning. Words which serve only as rem

Re: [R] [EXT] Re: Inappropriate color name

2020-11-19 Thread Andrew Robinson
I see a lot of reasoning in this thread that I consider specious at best. What seems clear to me, writing as a cis-gendered grey white male, is that we need to make more room. How do we do this? We do it by listening, reflecting, and responding. If words that we use are hurtful, then we must

Re: [R] Inappropriate color name

2020-11-19 Thread Heinz Tuechler
inline - David Wright wrote on 19.11.2020 12:39: Appropriation of Indian Red as 'Chestnut' (or other alternative) will be viewed by some as 'making appropriate' the label for a colour, and no doubt by other groups as cultural theft by excising reference to its origin. Seems the best option is to

Re: [R] Inappropriate color name

2020-11-19 Thread David Wright
Appropriation of Indian Red as 'Chestnut' (or other alternative) will be viewed by some as 'making appropriate' the label for a colour, and no doubt by other groups as cultural theft by excising reference to its origin. Seems the best option is to recognise the actual etymology carries no semblanc

Re: [R] Inappropriate color name

2020-11-19 Thread Mark Hall
And then there is also the issue of some people seeing it offensive and others not seeing it offensive (and both camps are in the minority group).  Case inpoint is look at the term being used for self-identification with California Native American groups List of Federally-Recognized Tribes in