Re: [Rd] Large discrepancies in the same object being saved to .RData

2010-07-12 Thread Terry Therneau
I only wish to add a request for further documentation of hidden environments, their consequences, and how to turn them off. Perhaps a page in the Extending R guide, and a suggestion for book authors. I was bitten by this with the coxph frailty functions. They are called during the model fram

Re: [Rd] Large discrepancies in the same object being saved to .RData

2010-07-12 Thread Martin Maechler
> "DM" == Duncan Murdoch > on Sun, 11 Jul 2010 17:25:45 -0400 writes: DM> On 11/07/2010 1:30 PM, Prof Brian Ripley wrote: [] >>> On 7/10/2010 10:10 PM, bill.venab...@csiro.au wrote: Well, I have answered one of my questions below. The hi

Re: [Rd] Large discrepancies in the same object being saved to .RData

2010-07-11 Thread Duncan Murdoch
On 11/07/2010 1:30 PM, Prof Brian Ripley wrote: On Sun, 11 Jul 2010, Tony Plate wrote: Another way of seeing the environments referenced in an object is using str(), e.g.: f1 <- function() { + junk <- rnorm(1000) + x <- 1:3 + y <- rnorm(3) + lm(y ~ x) + } v1 <- f1() object.size(f1) 16

Re: [Rd] Large discrepancies in the same object being saved to .RData

2010-07-11 Thread Prof Brian Ripley
rom: Venables, Bill (CMIS, Cleveland) Sent: Sunday, 11 July 2010 11:40 AM To: 'Duncan Murdoch'; 'Paul Johnson' Cc: 'r-devel@r-project.org'; Taylor, Julian (CMIS, Waite Campus) Subject: RE: [Rd] Large discrepancies in the same object being saved to .RData I'm sti

Re: [Rd] Large discrepancies in the same object being saved to .RData

2010-07-11 Thread Tony Plate
: Venables, Bill (CMIS, Cleveland) Sent: Sunday, 11 July 2010 11:40 AM To: 'Duncan Murdoch'; 'Paul Johnson' Cc: 'r-devel@r-project.org'; Taylor, Julian (CMIS, Waite Campus) Subject: RE: [Rd] Large discrepancies in the same object being saved to .RData I'm still a

Re: [Rd] Large discrepancies in the same object being saved to .RData

2010-07-10 Thread Duncan Murdoch
och Bill Venables. -Original Message- From: Venables, Bill (CMIS, Cleveland) Sent: Sunday, 11 July 2010 11:40 AM To: 'Duncan Murdoch'; 'Paul Johnson' Cc: 'r-devel@r-project.org'; Taylor, Julian (CMIS, Waite Campus) Subject: RE: [Rd] Large discrepancies in

Re: [Rd] Large discrepancies in the same object being saved to .RData

2010-07-10 Thread Bill.Venables
ents in its reckonings? Bill Venables. -Original Message- From: Venables, Bill (CMIS, Cleveland) Sent: Sunday, 11 July 2010 11:40 AM To: 'Duncan Murdoch'; 'Paul Johnson' Cc: 'r-devel@r-project.org'; Taylor, Julian (CMIS, Waite Campus) Subject: RE: [Rd] Large di

Re: [Rd] Large discrepancies in the same object being saved to .RData

2010-07-10 Thread Bill.Venables
success.) Have I missed something? Bill Venables. -Original Message- From: r-devel-boun...@r-project.org [mailto:r-devel-boun...@r-project.org] On Behalf Of Duncan Murdoch Sent: Sunday, 11 July 2010 10:36 AM To: Paul Johnson Cc: r-devel@r-project.org Subject: Re: [Rd] Large discrepancies i

Re: [Rd] Large discrepancies in the same object being saved to .RData

2010-07-10 Thread Duncan Murdoch
On 10/07/2010 2:33 PM, Paul Johnson wrote: On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 7:12 AM, Duncan Murdoch wrote: On 06/07/2010 9:04 PM, julian.tay...@csiro.au wrote: Hi developers, After some investigation I have found there can be large discrepancies in the same object being saved as an external "

Re: [Rd] Large discrepancies in the same object being saved to .RData

2010-07-10 Thread Paul Johnson
On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 7:12 AM, Duncan Murdoch wrote: > On 06/07/2010 9:04 PM, julian.tay...@csiro.au wrote: >> >> Hi developers, >> >> >> >> After some investigation I have found there can be large discrepancies in >> the same object being saved as an external "xx.RData" file. The immediate >> re

Re: [Rd] Large discrepancies in the same object being saved to .RData

2010-07-07 Thread Duncan Murdoch
On 06/07/2010 9:04 PM, julian.tay...@csiro.au wrote: Hi developers, After some investigation I have found there can be large discrepancies in the same object being saved as an external "xx.RData" file. The immediate repercussion of this is the possible increased size of your .RData workspace

[Rd] Large discrepancies in the same object being saved to .RData

2010-07-07 Thread Julian.Taylor
Hi developers, After some investigation I have found there can be large discrepancies in the same object being saved as an external "xx.RData" file. The immediate repercussion of this is the possible increased size of your .RData workspace for no apparent reason. The function and its three