RE: Newbie question

2000-11-29 Thread suresh
PLEASE DO NOT READ NEWBIE QUESTION IF WANT TO USE THOSE DEROGATORY STATEMENTS .YU DONT EVEN HELP EITHER .I AM SURE THERE ARE OTHER PEOPLE WHO WOULD LIKE TO HELP! -Original Message- From: Henning Brauer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2000 6:55 AM To: suresh; Qmail

Re: Newbie question

2000-11-29 Thread Henning Brauer
Am Mittwoch, 29. November 2000 15:11 schrieb suresh: Suresh, for first writing such nonsens to the list and asking me for help off list does not fit together. before asking other busy people for help (it is no paid support staff here, we all have our work to do!), you should -have read the doc

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2000-11-29 Thread Ismail YENIGUL

qmail Digest 29 Nov 2000 11:00:00 -0000 Issue 1198

2000-11-29 Thread qmail-digest-help
qmail Digest 29 Nov 2000 11:00:00 - Issue 1198 Topics (messages 52957 through 53015): rblsmtpd and firewall 52957 by: Roberto Samarone Araujo \(RSA\) 52958 by: Chris Johnson 52959 by: Roberto Samarone Araujo \(RSA\) 52960 by: Chris Johnson Re: qmail-ldap-mys

IsoQlog Qmail Log Analyzer

2000-11-29 Thread Ismail YENIGUL
hii i write an qmail log analyzer in PERL here is description: IsoQlog is a qmail log analysis program written in Perl. It is designed to scan qmail logfiles and produce usage statistics in HTML format for viewing through a Web browser. It produces top domains output according to incoming,

dot-qmail question (again) :-)

2000-11-29 Thread Visar Emini
I have a strange situation. In my .qmail file I specify a local path of my ./Maildir/ where a copy of message should be kept: /path/to/my/maildir/ But this line is treated as e-mail address not as a local path? I get an error saying that: [EMAIL PROTECTED] is not listed in control/locals ... etc.

There are mistake?

2000-11-29 Thread Ould
Hi, I have a doubt if there is no mistake in Sill's script /var/qmail/supervise/qmail-send/log/run Is qmail-send not forgot in exec /usr/ qmaill /usr/ t /var/log/qmail/? Also: are cotes in $MAXSMTPD, $QMAILDUID,$NOFILESGID are necessary? When he included rblmstpd there are cotes onl

Re: qmail imapd?

2000-11-29 Thread Jose AP Celestino
At 02:33 PM 11/28/00 +0100, you wrote: >hello list, > >i'm new to qmail. >i've installed successfully qmail, qmail-smtpd and qmail-pop3d. >i would like to know if there's an imap server - working together with >qmail - too? Try Courier-imap. >regards >achim > japc.

Re: IsoQlog Qmail Log Analyzer

2000-11-29 Thread Ralph Hackl
That great! Can you add some user statistics, to view amount of outgouing and incomming mails? thank you Ralph -- >Von: Ismail YENIGUL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >An: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Betreff: IsoQlog Qmail Log Analyzer >Datum: Mit, 29. Nov 2000 12:51 Uhr > > hii > i write

Re: IsoQlog Qmail Log Analyzer

2000-11-29 Thread Jose AP Celestino
Ismail YENIGUL wrote: > hii > i write an qmail log analyzer in PERL > > here is description: > >IsoQlog is a qmail log analysis program written in Perl. It is > designed to scan qmail logfiles and produce usage statistics in HTML > format for viewing through a Web >browser. It produces to

SSL in qmail

2000-11-29 Thread Hans-Juergen Schwarz
Hello all, I´m running qmail 1.03 and vpopmail 4.9.4 with the --enable-roaming-users feature and smtp-auth. Now I have found a ssl patch under http://www.esat.kuleuven.ac.be/~vermeule/qmail/tls.patch does anybody use this one? If yes I got a few questions Does it work together with my configuratio

Re: dot-qmail question (again) :-)

2000-11-29 Thread Hans-Juergen Schwarz
Hallo Visar, Wednesday, November 29, 2000, 11:59:32 AM, you wrote: > I have a strange situation. > In my .qmail file I specify a local path of my ./Maildir/ where a copy of > message should be kept: > /path/to/my/maildir/ > But this line is treated as e-mail address not as a local path? > I get

Re: qmail capasity ?

2000-11-29 Thread Charles Cazabon
Are Haugsdal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Would it be difficult, or problematic to allow a customer to use 1 000 pop3 > email accounts ? No. It may be even less of a problem, though, to use a virtual domain mail manager so you don't need to set up system accounts, etc. "vmailmgr" by Bruce G

Re: There are mistake?

2000-11-29 Thread Charles Cazabon
Ould <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I have a doubt if there is no mistake in Sill's script > > /var/qmail/supervise/qmail-send/log/run > > Is qmail-send not forgot in > > exec /usr/ qmaill /usr/ t /var/log/qmail/? Dave Sill's script is correct. > Also: > > are cotes in $MAXSMTPD, $

List Courtesy (was Newbie question)

2000-11-29 Thread Jamin Collins
I may be out of line here. However, this is not the first time I've seen snappy rude responses from people in response to others asking for help. I am simply quoting this message as it is the most recent. Sure, some of the postings for help may not contain all the information that a more expe

Re: List Courtesy (was Newbie question)

2000-11-29 Thread Warren Small
I absolutely agree with this. I have never seen so many rude and useless responses to pleas for help on any other list that I subscribe to. Yes, there are times when the answer is documented somewhere but the documentation available is poorly organized making it very difficult for someone who is n

Re: List Courtesy (was Newbie question)

2000-11-29 Thread Robin S. Socha
* Jamin Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> whines: > I may be out of line here. However, this is not the first time I've > seen snappy rude responses from people in response to others asking > for help. I am simply quoting this message as it is the most recent. *sigh* Is it September again? Just for

Re: List Courtesy (was Newbie question)

2000-11-29 Thread Henning Brauer
I don't see your problem. he was on the wrong list as this is qmail-ldap specific. he posted to the qmail-ldap list too, so nobody can tell me he didn't know about this list. I answered anyway. I asked him if the file mentioned in the error msg exists. if so, i requested more info than one lin

RE: List Courtesy (was Newbie question)

2000-11-29 Thread Jamin Collins
How exactly is my MUA broken? I've included the original text of the message I've responded to. I've simply chosen not to add anything to the beginning of each line of the original message. Now, you've resorted to name calling? Quite the original. How does a request for common courtesy indica

Re: List Courtesy (was Newbie question)

2000-11-29 Thread Amitai Schlair
on 11/29/00 9:47 AM, Jamin Collins at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > All I ask is that common courtesy be extended to those asking for help. The people who often provide help simply expect the same sort of courtesy. Remember who's doing whom the favor, and that this list is about qmail, not Unix. I

Re: List Courtesy (was Newbie question)

2000-11-29 Thread Amitai Schlair
on 11/29/00 11:10 AM, Jamin Collins at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > If you see the questions of users on this list as bothersome, I'm sorry. > However, as membership to the list is voluntary, you are not being forced to > read them. In short, if you don't like them, don't read them. Sure. And if

Re: dot-qmail question (again) :-)

2000-11-29 Thread Milen Petrinski
Hi, will anybody answer this question? I have the same problem :-( I'm trying to write a .qmail file, to allow to forward the messages to that user and to leave a copy in user's maildir. be-01:/home/vpopmail/domains/bates.eu.com/mpetrinski# more .qmail ./Maildir/ office As written in dot-qmail m

RE: List Courtesy (was Newbie question)

2000-11-29 Thread Jamin Collins
Since you've asked, my problem with your posting specifically is as follows: >Suresh, for first writing such nonsens to the list and asking me for help >off >list does not fit together. before asking other busy people for help (it is >no paid support staff here, we all have our work to do!), yo

RE: List Courtesy (was Newbie question)

2000-11-29 Thread Jamin Collins
I'm sorry, I don't recall having posted a Unix question to this list. However, if some did perchance make that mistake, is it really so difficult to politely point them to the correct list? Jamin W. Collins -Original Message- From: Amitai Schlair [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesda

RE: List Courtesy (was Newbie question)

2000-11-29 Thread Greg Owen
> How exactly is my MUA broken? It isn't, the user is broken. The user incorrectly decided that everyone would just love to see the full text of the original message (perhaps in case they inexplicably missed it the first time!), and that it needed no marking to make it clear to readers t

Re: List Courtesy (was Newbie question)

2000-11-29 Thread Romeyn Prescott
>Sometimes I wonder what brings people like you to posting this whining >luser shit over and over and over again? This is not your new-age pink >treehuggers society - this is a technical discussion list. IT-Darwinism, >y'know? Survival of the brightest and, like, stuff. Huh-huh. >-- >Robin S. Soch

Re: dot-qmail question (again) :-)

2000-11-29 Thread Alex Pennace
On Wed, Nov 29, 2000 at 06:09:04PM +0200, Milen Petrinski wrote: > I'm trying to > write a .qmail file, to allow to forward the messages to that user and to > leave a copy in user's maildir. > > be-01:/home/vpopmail/domains/bates.eu.com/mpetrinski# more .qmail > ./Maildir/ > office > > As writte

Re: List Courtesy (was Newbie question)

2000-11-29 Thread Robin S. Socha
* Jamin Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > How exactly is my MUA broken? * Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" * No reference headers (*GREAT* for breaking archives) * 6 attribution lines * No citation leader * Trailing blank line > I've included the original text of the messa

Re: List Courtesy (was Newbie question)

2000-11-29 Thread Amitai Schlair
on 11/29/00 11:22 AM, Jamin Collins at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > As such, asking for help (whether on the right list or not) is in no way > wrong. Berating someone for doing so is rude. It might also be considered rude to post to the wrong list, or to ask for help without providing useful info

RE: List Courtesy (was Newbie question)

2000-11-29 Thread John W. Lemons III
I've seen this over and over and over. Someone joins the list, probably because they are having problems (the same reason I joined), posts a question, and then has to wade through the wave of crap thrown back at them by a bunch of rude jerks with nothing better to do with their time that to berat

Re: List Courtesy (was Newbie question)

2000-11-29 Thread Charles Cazabon
Jamin Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > How exactly is my MUA broken? > > I've included the original text of the message I've responded to. I've > simply chosen not to add anything to the beginning of each line of the > original message. Hence the breakage. Netiquette dictates that replies

Re: dot-qmail question (again) :-)

2000-11-29 Thread Milen Petrinski
Nov 29 15:53:17 be-01 qmail: 975513197.754397 new msg 101388 Nov 29 15:53:17 be-01 qmail: 975513197.754867 info msg 101388: bytes 627 from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> qp 5060 uid 1001 Nov 29 15:53:18 be-01 qmail: 975513198.117625 starting delivery 38: msg 101388 to local [EMAIL PROTECTED] Nov 29 15:53:18

Re: dot-qmail question (again) :-)

2000-11-29 Thread Milen Petrinski
Sorry, the previous was not complete, here it is: Nov 29 15:53:17 be-01 qmail: 975513197.754397 new msg 101388 Nov 29 15:53:17 be-01 qmail: 975513197.754867 info msg 101388: bytes 627 from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> qp 5060 uid 1001 Nov 29 15:53:18 be-01 qmail: 975513198.117625 starting delivery 38: msg

Re: dot-qmail question (again) :-)

2000-11-29 Thread Charles Cazabon
Milen Petrinski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > will anybody answer this question? I have the same problem :-( I'm trying to > write a .qmail file, to allow to forward the messages to that user and to > leave a copy in user's maildir. > > be-01:/home/vpopmail/domains/bates.eu.com/mpetrinski# more .q

sending mail to all users

2000-11-29 Thread defender of the protocol
how can i make an alias (like [EMAIL PROTECTED]) that sends a message to all the users on my system? i have several domains hosted. - jeremy

Re: dot-qmail question (again) :-)

2000-11-29 Thread Romeyn Prescott
Try this: --- /path/to/home/Maildir/ &[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- ...ROMeyn At 6:09 PM +0200 11/29/00, Milen Petrinski wrote: >Hi, >will anybody answer this question? I have the same problem :-( I'm trying to >write a .qmail file, to allow to forward the messages to that user and to >leave a copy in

RE: List Courtesy (was Newbie question)

2000-11-29 Thread John W. Lemons III
I don't disagree with anything you said. My mail wasn't aimed at the people who politely say RTFM and provide pointers to said FM. It was aimed at the jack asses that spend their time berating newbies and clogging the group with diatribes about how important their time is, rather than providing

Re: sending mail to all users

2000-11-29 Thread J.J.Gallardo
defender of the protocol escribió: > how can i make an alias (like [EMAIL PROTECTED]) that sends a message to all the > users on my system? i have several domains hosted. > > - jeremy If you are using "vpopmail" look at "vpopbull" command. Really simple.

Re: List Courtesy (was Newbie question)

2000-11-29 Thread Dave Sill
Jamin Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I may be out of line here. However, this is not the first time I've seen >snappy rude responses from people in response to others asking for help. I >am simply quoting this message as it is the most recent. I'm not a big fan of newbie smackdowns, thoug

Re: List Courtesy (was Newbie question)

2000-11-29 Thread Matt Brown
"John W. Lemons III" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > The mind boggles at how important their work is that they are unable > to help, yet they have plenty of time to post novella's about how > busy they are and how lazy you are for not solving the problem > without their help. This shows just how m

Re: List Courtesy (was Newbie question)

2000-11-29 Thread Dave Sill
Warren Small <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I have not tried to install using LWQ but I couldn't >help but notice some differences in the way things are installed using LWQ >versus the INSTALL files. Now which is right? Question: Which of the following is the right way to remove a file in the curr

Re: List Courtesy (was Newbie question)

2000-11-29 Thread Barley
> The blind leading... C'mon, Jamin, you've had your 264 lines of fame. Now > go away, will you? You're about to start a war you'll never understand. > -- Man, this Robin character is nuts. Coder-superiority syndrome big time. Why is it that tech geeks are so sure that their field of knowledge is

Re: dot-qmail question (again) :-)

2000-11-29 Thread David Dyer-Bennet
Romeyn Prescott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes on 29 November 2000 at 12:24:08 -0500 > At 6:09 PM +0200 11/29/00, Milen Petrinski wrote: > >will anybody answer this question? I have the same problem :-( I'm trying to > >write a .qmail file, to allow to forward the messages to that user and to >

Re: List Courtesy (was Newbie question)

2000-11-29 Thread Kris Kelley
> > How exactly is my MUA broken? > > It isn't, the user is broken. The user incorrectly decided that > everyone would just love to see the full text of the original message > (perhaps in case they inexplicably missed it the first time!), and that it > needed no marking to make it clear to read

RE: List Courtesy (was Newbie question)

2000-11-29 Thread Dave Sill
Jamin Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >As for the statement you claim I made "the docs are all so bad because i >couldn't install qmail with >them", I did not say this. I simply stated that I was unsuccessfull in my >attempts to install qmail using them. I did not state they were bad, I eve

Re: dot-qmail question (again) :-)

2000-11-29 Thread Alex Pennace
On Wed, Nov 29, 2000 at 06:50:11PM +0200, Milen Petrinski wrote: > Sorry, the previous was not complete, here it is: > > Nov 29 15:53:17 be-01 qmail: 975513197.754397 new msg 101388 > Nov 29 15:53:17 be-01 qmail: 975513197.754867 info msg 101388: bytes 627 > from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> qp 5060 uid 1

Re: List Courtesy (was Newbie question)

2000-11-29 Thread Adam McKenna
On Wed, Nov 29, 2000 at 08:47:25AM -0600, Jamin Collins wrote: > I realize, as do most of the user's posting, that support here is provided > by individuals donating their time of their own free will. All I ask is > that common courtesy be extended to those asking for help. This suresh guy routi

RE: List Courtesy (was Newbie question)

2000-11-29 Thread Jamin Collins
Dave Sill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] writes: > I'm not a big fan of newbie smackdowns, though a repeat > offendor might > warrant one. I think newbies generally respond better to reward than > punishment. E.g., instead of: > > Your mailer is broken. > > I'd say something like: > > Please

RE: List Courtesy (was Newbie question)

2000-11-29 Thread Jamin Collins
Robin S. Socha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: > * Jamin Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > How exactly is my MUA broken? > > * Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" And which RFC does this violate? > * No reference headers (*GREAT* for breaking archives) I've checked RFC 8

RE: creating an aliases.cdb without newaliases?

2000-11-29 Thread Collin B. McClendon
Yes, it was my fault...I didn't realize that they were dependent, I looked in the fast forward directory and found its own cdbmake. Thanks! I still can't send mail to root even if .qmail-root is set to any other address.. wierd. -Collin -Original Message- From: Alex Pennace [mailto:[EMAI

Re: dot-qmail question (again) :-)

2000-11-29 Thread Peter Green
[ Sorry to piggyback, but I ... misplaced ... the original post. ] > Milen Petrinski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > will anybody answer this question? I have the same problem :-( I'm trying to > > write a .qmail file, to allow to forward the messages to that user and to > > leave a copy in user's

Re: List Courtesy (was Newbie question)

2000-11-29 Thread Robin S. Socha
* Greg Owen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >* Some other luser: >> How exactly is my MUA broken? > It isn't, the user is broken. Indeed. Tell me, Jamin, does your inflatable sheep talk? If so, do you wait for it to ask you for a fag, then repeat everything it said during intercourse (including

Re: List Courtesy (was Newbie question)

2000-11-29 Thread Barley
Robin, you are decidedly an asshole. I can't believe how abusive you feel the need to be. Must stem from some geek-angst I don't understand. You feel like you're so bloody smart because you spend most of your waking hours in front of a computer and can make people who don't feel stupid. Well, som

Re: List Courtesy (was Newbie question)

2000-11-29 Thread Barley
I want to second what was said here. The manuals are often inadequate for newbies. I never would have gotten qmail set up without the patient and generous help of those on this list. Thanks to everyone who helped me! I'm sure glad I wasn't raked over the coals like some of the recent posters. To

Re: List Courtesy (was Newbie question)

2000-11-29 Thread Matt Brown
Greg, he's not calling people stupid for what they don't know, but for what they couldn't be bothered to try, for the effort they couldn't be bothered to expend when it's just so easy to try and get someone else to do the hard work. -Matt -- | Matthew J. Brown - Senior Network Administrator - N

Re: List Courtesy (was Newbie question)

2000-11-29 Thread Barley
> Greg, he's not calling people stupid for what they don't know, but for > what they couldn't be bothered to try, for the effort they couldn't be > bothered to expend when it's just so easy to try and get someone else > to do the hard work. > > -Matt Matt, I dig. You folks who have done a lot o

RE: List Courtesy (was Newbie question)

2000-11-29 Thread Tim Hunter
(excuse my outlook 2000) > -Original Message- > From: Jamin Collins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2000 9:47 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: List Courtesy (was Newbie question) > > > I may be out of line here. However, this is not the first time I've se

Re: List Courtesy (was Newbie question)

2000-11-29 Thread Markus Stumpf
Ok, I have read the whole thread now. We had that before and we will have that in the future. As for the experience needed to set up qmail: I have recommended qmail to some 5-10 people with different experiences. Some never set up a mail server but have some Unix experience, some were new t

Re: dot-qmail question (again) :-)

2000-11-29 Thread Romeyn Prescott
> > > Try this: > > > > --- > > /path/to/home/Maildir/ > > &[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > --- Sorry. It's been a day. I meant to say that I tried this with success on my server. It worked for me. ...ROMeyn -- signat-url: http://www2.potsdam.edu/dctm/prescor/signat-url.htm cubiclecam: http:/

Re: List Courtesy (was Newbie question)

2000-11-29 Thread Markus Stumpf
On Wed, Nov 29, 2000 at 10:10:56AM -0600, Jamin Collins wrote: > If you see the questions of users on this list as bothersome, I'm sorry. > However, as membership to the list is voluntary, you are not being forced to > read them. In short, if you don't like them, don't read them. Sure, or don'

Re: List Courtesy (was Newbie question)

2000-11-29 Thread David Dyer-Bennet
Dave Sill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes on 29 November 2000 at 13:32:36 -0500 > Jamin Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >I may be out of line here. However, this is not the first time I've seen > >snappy rude responses from people in response to others asking for help. I > >am simply quo

RE: List Courtesy (was Newbie question)

2000-11-29 Thread David Dyer-Bennet
Jamin Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes on 29 November 2000 at 10:10:56 -0600 > How exactly is my MUA broken? > > I've included the original text of the message I've responded to. I've > simply chosen not to add anything to the beginning of each line of the > original message. Well, you'r

Re: List Courtesy (was Newbie question)

2000-11-29 Thread Markus Stumpf
On Wed, Nov 29, 2000 at 10:36:32AM -0800, Barley wrote: > True > intelligence is indicated by a broader understanding of things, and the > contributions that many different people have to offer. So ... this says that all those that cannot describe their problems properly are idiots, because they

Re: List Courtesy (was Newbie question)

2000-11-29 Thread Bill Carlson
On Wed, 29 Nov 2000, Barley wrote: > > > The blind leading... C'mon, Jamin, you've had your 264 lines of fame. Now > > go away, will you? You're about to start a war you'll never understand. > > -- > Man, this Robin character is nuts. Coder-superiority syndrome big time. Why Damn, I forgot to br

RE: List Courtesy (was Newbie question)

2000-11-29 Thread Jamin Collins
Dave Sill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: > You called the docs "highly inadequate", not "a little lacking when it > comes to helping someone completely new to qmail". In my > book, calling > something highly inadequate *is* calling it bad. Now, we are getting into a matter of semantics. It

Re: List Courtesy (was Newbie question)

2000-11-29 Thread Robin S. Socha
* Dave Sill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Jamin Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think newbies generally respond better to reward than punishment. E.g., > instead of: > Your mailer is broken. > I'd say something like: > Please don't include messages you're replying to as appendages t

Re: List Courtesy (was Newbie question)

2000-11-29 Thread David Dyer-Bennet
Barley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes on 29 November 2000 at 10:36:32 -0800 > Try to remember that there are a lot of fields of knowledge and that your > sweeping name-calling, that people are "too fscking stupid" etc is utterly > absurd. For all you know the people you call "stupid" because they

RE: List Courtesy (was Newbie question)

2000-11-29 Thread Jamin Collins
Markus Stumpf [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: > Sure, or don't answer them and get 10 eMails followed shortly > after like >"I still have the problem and no one helps me. This list > is sooo unpolite" I'm not saying that some of the user's are rude, or that they do not post statements lik

Newbie Question

2000-11-29 Thread Louis Mushandu
Dear All, Fits qmail installation and all was fine until I tried to send email to the box. It produces the following error message This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Sorry. Although I'm listed as a best-preference MX or A for that host, it

Using this list for QMail Support questions...

2000-11-29 Thread John W. Lemons III
>From Dan's own page: "But please don't send me email of the following types: qmail support questions. Send them to the qmail mailing list instead. " Kinda blows that "this isn't a support mailing list" idea out of the water, eh?

Re: dot-qmail question (again) :-)

2000-11-29 Thread Charles Cazabon
Peter Green <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > IIRC, vpopmail .qmail files in the user's directory do NOT support direct > delivery, nor do they support program execution. They only support > ``forwarding''; Ah, hence the original user's log of attempted deliveries to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" . Shall w

[HELP] Domain in Sender: is missing

2000-11-29 Thread montgomery f. tidwell
Howdy, i just noticed that mail sent out by my qmail server does not put my domain in to the Sender: field. it is going out as "Sender: mtidwell" and not "Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]" like it should. what have i done wrong?? TIA \\//_

Re: List Courtesy (was Newbie question)

2000-11-29 Thread Peter Green
* Barley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [001129 15:14]: > Well, some people would say you are a "luser" > (and it's loser, loser) Um, no. ``luser'' stands for ``local user'' originally. Of course, it's taken on something of a double entendre to describe the more clue-deprived o

Re: List Courtesy (was Newbie question)

2000-11-29 Thread Peter Green
* Barley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [001129 15:38]: > I dig. You folks who have done a lot of hard work and are knowledgable > should not have to do the work for newbies who can't be bothered. But the > easiest way to avoid exerting any effort on their behalf seems to me to be > to ignore them. This Robi

Re: List Courtesy (was Newbie question)

2000-11-29 Thread Louis Theran
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jamin Collins) writes: > As for qmail, I will be the first to tell you that LWQ and the > installation instructions with qmail itself are for the most part > highly inadequate. I tried setting qmail up just from the > instructions included with the source twice, with no luck.

Re: List Courtesy (was Newbie question)

2000-11-29 Thread Romeyn Prescott
At 10:01 AM -0800 11/29/00, Barley wrote: >I want to second what was said here. The manuals are often inadequate for >newbies. I never would have gotten qmail set up without the patient and >generous help of those on this list. Thanks to everyone who helped me! I'm >sure glad I wasn't raked over t

my Sender field is incorrect.

2000-11-29 Thread Montgomery Tidwell
Title: Howdy,i just noticed that the Sender field in all of my outgoing mail is incorrect. it issending "Sender: mtidwell" and s/b "Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]".what have i done wrong??TIA \\//_

RE: List Courtesy (was Newbie question)

2000-11-29 Thread Jamin Collins
Markus Stumpf [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: On Wed, Nov 29, 2000 at 10:36:32AM -0800, Barley wrote: > > True > > intelligence is indicated by a broader understanding of > things, and the > > contributions that many different people have to offer. > > So ... this says that all those that ca

why didn't it send my msg?

2000-11-29 Thread QBA
Hi, I have a problem and can't understand its source. I hope you can help me solve it. And here's the point: I have a dial-up connection to my isp so I can't have my own official domain name. But I have joined dyndns.org project and registered there as qbaroot.dyndns.org. I've also downloaded a d

Re: List Courtesy (was Newbie question)

2000-11-29 Thread Barley
> "lusers" is a derogatory way to refer to system users by system administrators. Isn't it great the way English expands in this flexible way? ;) OK, so the people Robin likes to flame ARE "lusers"...my bad... whereas Robin him or herself is actually still a "loser" in the conventional sense.

Re: List Courtesy (was Newbie question)

2000-11-29 Thread Mark Delany
On Wed, Nov 29, 2000 at 01:53:40PM -0600, Jamin Collins wrote: > Dave Sill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: > > You called the docs "highly inadequate", not "a little lacking when it > > comes to helping someone completely new to qmail". In my > > book, calling > > something highly inadequate *

FW: Newbie Question

2000-11-29 Thread Louis Mushandu
> Dear All, > > Fits qmail installation and all was fine until I tried to send email to > the box. It produces the following error message > > This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out. > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Sorry. Although I'm listed as a best-preference MX or A

Re: List Courtesy (was Newbie question)

2000-11-29 Thread Adam McKenna
On Wed, Nov 29, 2000 at 11:15:04AM -0800, Barley wrote: > > Greg, he's not calling people stupid for what they don't know, but for > > what they couldn't be bothered to try, for the effort they couldn't be > > bothered to expend when it's just so easy to try and get someone else > > to do the hard

Re: List Courtesy (was Newbie question)

2000-11-29 Thread Barley
> Maybe a "qmail-newbies"-list might be warranted? Here here. Then those who don't mind newbie level questions can answer those and others can ignore the list entirely. I think qmail-newbies list is a great idea. > -- > Robin S. Socha >

Re: Newbie Question

2000-11-29 Thread Bill Carlson
On Wed, 29 Nov 2000, Louis Mushandu wrote: > Dear All, > > Fits qmail installation and all was fine until I tried to send email to the > box. It produces the following error message > > This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out. > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Sorry. Althoug

Re: Newbie Question

2000-11-29 Thread Amitai Schlair
on 11/29/00 3:17 PM, Louis Mushandu at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out. > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Sorry. Although I'm listed as a best-preference MX or A for that host, > it isn't in my control/locals file, so I don't treat it as loc

Re: List Courtesy (was Newbie question)

2000-11-29 Thread asantos
From: Barley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Robin, you are decidedly an asshole. > >I can't believe how abusive you feel the need to be. Must stem from some >geek-angst I don't understand. You feel like you're so bloody smart because Robin's no geek. He's just a kid, and fairly ignorant at that. For examp

RE: List Courtesy (was Newbie question)

2000-11-29 Thread Tim Hunter
I am sure everyone can agree on this. Constructive criticism works best, makes it much easier to fix how it lacks if told how it lacks. If you think the documentation sucks, PLEASE tell Dave (or Dan, or whatever else documentation you are reading) that it sucks and why it sucks, and if your reall

Re: Newbie Question

2000-11-29 Thread asantos
From: Louis Mushandu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sorry. Although I'm listed as a best-preference MX or A for that host, >it isn't in my control/locals file, so I don't treat it as local. (#5.4.6) > >I have done rtfm bit, hones,t but now I seem to be going round in circles. Follow the thread starting at

Re: Newbie Question

2000-11-29 Thread Robin S. Socha
* Louis Mushandu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I tried to send email to the box. It produces the following error message > This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out. > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Sorry. Although I'm listed as a > best-preference MX or A for that host, it isn't

inconsistency using qmail/Spamcontrol badrcptto

2000-11-29 Thread Russ Ringer
I'm using qmail 1.03/spamcontrol 1.03 (yes, I know, I haven't put in 1.04 yet) and have a list of invalid names in badrcptto. It works most of the time, but occasionally, mail comes through to the bad rcptto name. The maillog shows the mail was blocked due to invalid recipient address, but it g

Re: [HELP] Domain in Sender: is missing

2000-11-29 Thread Peter Samuel
On Wed, 29 Nov 2000, montgomery f. tidwell wrote: > Howdy, > > i just noticed that mail sent out by my qmail server does > not put my domain in to the Sender: field. it is going > out as "Sender: mtidwell" and not "Sender: > [EMAIL PROTECTED]" > like it should. > > what have i done wrong?? Cho

Frustrated, please help.

2000-11-29 Thread Louis Mushandu
All, I cannot get qmail to accept messages from the outside, i posted a missive before and the replies that I got whilst swift and appreciated have not resolved by problem. The recieved error message is Hi. This is the qmail-send program at mail.mongrel.com. I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver

Re: List Courtesy (was Newbie question)

2000-11-29 Thread Scott Ballantyne
We old timers used to consider it rude to discuss anything but technical issues on a technical mailing list. If someone had a problem with someones manner of expression, or personality, they took it off list. Please do so in the future. sdb -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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2000-11-29 Thread Louis Mushandu
A contractor will be brought in tomorrow to try and resolve the problem; if you feel you can do it by tonight, email back in a hurry. I jest not. Problem. Hi. This is the qmail-send program at mail.mongrel.com. I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following addresses. This i

Re: dot-qmail question (again) :-)

2000-11-29 Thread David Dyer-Bennet
Charles Cazabon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes on 29 November 2000 at 14:27:14 -0600 > Peter Green <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > IIRC, vpopmail .qmail files in the user's directory do NOT support direct > > delivery, nor do they support program execution. They only support > > ``forwarding

Re: why didn't it send my msg?

2000-11-29 Thread Markus Stumpf
On Wed, Nov 29, 2000 at 10:53:03PM +0100, QBA wrote: > Instead of "localhost.localdomain" I put there "qbaroot.dyndns.org". > I had to do so 'cause some pop3 servers rejected my all e-mails.) > As a attachment I send my last maillog when I was trying to send a msg > (hope it will be useful). I'd

Re: List Courtesy (was Newbie question)

2000-11-29 Thread Tim Burden
Such a list would pobably be ignored by the people that can really help. And sometimes the stupid questions aren't from newbies, they are from genuinely stupid lackwits like me. Anyway RTFM is usually good advice. Sometimes we really are lazy or busy setting up all kinds of crap on our systems an

RE: List Courtesy (was Newbie question)

2000-11-29 Thread Jamin Collins
Louis Theran [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: > Really? Is this a digression because you've already contacted LWQ's > author with suggestions? Have you posted anything to this list about > the specific problems you had with INSTALL? No to both, because I have not yet completed my configurati

Re: List Courtesy (was Newbie question)

2000-11-29 Thread Andy Bradford
Thus said "asantos" on Wed, 29 Nov 2000 22:13:18 -0100: > For someone with such a doubtfull sense of humour as he shows to have > welcoming IE users the way he does at http://socha.net/, he seems to be > inordinately proud of listing among his "computer skills" Microsoft Office. Bah! That's a l

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