At 11/1/00 09:03 AM , Toni Mueller wrote:
>On Mon, Oct 23, 2000 at 02:57:48PM -0700, Kai MacTane wrote:
> > What are the security problems with it? And will using it allow my shell
> > users to type "mail" and either get a "no new mail" message or show them
&
a bit. Hope you don't mind.
>"See, you not only have to be a good coder to create a system like
>Linux, you have to be a sneaky bastard too."
>- Linus Torvalds
Too many of Linus' quotes just rock.
--Kai MacTane
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I suspect you may have
to write one yourself, or install an MLM.
--Kai MacTane
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"It can't rain all the time/Your tears won't fall forever"
--Hangman's Joke
ge or show them
the contents of their mailbox if they do have something?
--Kai MacTane
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"This trembling, adored,
Tousled bird mad girl..."
--The Cure,
"Burn"
s like a good idea. But when I try it on a user that
has no mail, mutt starts anyway (and shows "[Msgs:0]" in the status bar).
This is apparently not the behavior that should occur, given the docs on
the -z switch.
Any idea what's going on there?
ound nothing. Are
there no Maildir patches or replacements for /bin/mail? It seems that such
a common utility *should* have a Maildir-capable version. (I cannot write
it myself, as I have just barely enough knowledge of C to write a 'Hello,
World!" program.)
y the latter one should work. See
http://cr.yp.to/qmail/faq/incominguser.html#alias-dots. As it says, "Dots
are converted to colons, and uppercase is converted to lowercase."
--Kai MacTane
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in all-caps for clarity, they are
case-insensitive. More information is available in the above-referenced
RFC, which I highly recommend you read if you want to know more about POP3
syntax and commands.
reply, please send
it to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Peace out.
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At 5/20/2000 10:39 AM +0200, clemensF wrote or quoted:
> > Kai MacTane:
>
> > People who are determined to be stupid seem to be:
> >
> > a) 100% capable of being stupid, no matter how easy you try to make it
> > for them to be smart (or at least average); a
ugh
>to change the reply address get to send back to the list?
Oh, sneaky! I kind of like it, actually. :)
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hey wouldn't have been able to ditch the footer in the
first place).
Since I use Majordomo, I know nothing of ezmlm internals, so I'm not sure
how hard this would be to set up. But it's a thought for how to deal with
the situation.
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d wouldn't be *that* much, so I'm not as much against it
as some on this list.)
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tp://www.palomine.net/qmail/relaying.html .
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From the Jargon File:
aracter:
10.0.:allow,[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Any number of variables may be listed:
127.0.0.1:allow,RELAYCLIENT="",TCPLOCALHOST="movie.edu"
So, your answer is "yes".
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&kai
rather than ./Maildir/ because this is in /var/qmail/alias.)
Any other ideas?
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in a .qmail file, can
anyone clue me in on how to properly get the thing to exit 99 when I need
it to?
Thanks in advance.
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d return
99 on certain conditions?
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hem, I believe there are some scripts on www.qmail.org that will do it.
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badmailfrom is read
by qmail-smtpd, which is invoked at need whenever an incoming SMTP request
is formed.
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email virus warnings that's been
littering the Internet for past six years or more, only translated into
Spanish.
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At 5/5/2000 11:54 AM -0600, ANTIGEN_HOUSTON wrote or quoted:
>Antigen for Exchange found LOVE-LETTER-FOR-YOU.TXT.vbs matching
>=love-letter-for-you.txt.vbs file filter.
>The file is currently Detected. The message, "Re: hack for filtering "i
>love you" worm", wa
I note that \w+\.vbs and \S+\.vbs are *not* the way to do it, as
filenames may contain spaces and other characters.
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On
list want a copy?
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Kai MacTane
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From the Jargon File: (v4.0.0, 25 Jul 1996)
finger trouble /n./
Mistyping, typos, or gen
large.
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Kai MacTane
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From the Jargon File: (v4.0.0, 25 Jul 1996)
finger trouble /n./
Mistyping, typos, or generalized keyboard incomp
>Oops, check that. We now know what the Internet is like without Jon.
No kidding. I had high hopes for ICANN, but they've been pretty well
dashed. I definitely preferred IANA.
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Kai MacTane
e I can see a strong
case to be made for having this be an add-on. But it is a dissenting view
that I thought should be aired, because I'd like to counterbalance the view
I see here of "Messages like that are horrible; why would anyone want them?"
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>Oh? What would the user have done had he known there was a DNS
>failure?
He might have tried to fax, fed-ex, or otherwise send the information via
another medium.
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ot;./Maildir/".
The permissions should be 700, not 600. The user should be able to execute
(i.e., cd to) each directory.
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ironic tang to it that tickles
my fancy.
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From the J
IPADDRESS B
I am not a DNS expert, but that looks reasonable to me, except that you'll
want there to be an MX value as well -- usually around 10 for the primary
MX. If you have a backup MX designated, that would usually be 20.
>BTW is there a book out on qmail?
It's in th
e
Then:
#!/usr/bin/perl
&send_mail_to('[EMAIL PROTECTED]');
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TW, no need to cc: me, I'm on the list.
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that runs like that with no problem (although the invocation
line in inetd.conf is pretty hairy).
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my personal itch rather than yours, I
suppose I'll have to modify the script myself, if I ever get around to it.
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in the first place.
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Kai MacTane
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From the Jargon File: (v4.0.0, 25 Jul 1996)
finger trouble /n./
Mistyping, typ
xconf. In which case, it's
not cause for alarm.
Also, if you're running Red Hat, you might want to use rpm to verify all
packages against the installation CD.
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Kai MacTane
ittle unreasonable.
Encouraging them to is another story entirely.
But I certainly don't think that including unsubscription instructions at
the bottom of each post will have any effect on the density of unsubscribe
requests.
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y of which are quite cogent (IMO, of course).
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Kai MacTane
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I supposed to do with
that?
>First, I've done a bit of looking but it's not immediately obvious to me
>where qmail puts its logs -- in fact, I don't even know where to find the
>system logs. Would somebody kindly point me in the right direction?
Usual places are /var/log/maillog and /var/log/qmail/ (note the trailing
slash).
, please let me know and I'll
see if I can get my friend to write it up with the details in place and
corrected so you can send out the true and accurate version rather than my
messed-up retelling. Thanks.)
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total 1
-rw--- 1 qmails qmail 0 Oct 15 22:48 sendmutex
-rw-r--r-- 1 qmailr qmail1024 Mar 15 15:33 tcpto
prw--w--w- 1 qmails qmail 0 Mar 15 15:32 trigger|
[root@set qmail]#
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t, so look in RedHat/RPMS.
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From the
ally endorsing.
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Kai MacTane
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From t
a compilation
of djb quotes? I looked on his web site, but didn't find anything so "fluffy".
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rk it so that
>the qmail logo is bigger.
Thanks. Glad you like my suggestions. This is certainly not the first time
I've wished for much more artistic talent than I have.
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e bat looks just totally
swamped, like he's being asked to perform a task that's simply way too big
for him (much like sendmail itself), while the dolphin is just having the
time of its life and enjoying slinging mail around at incomprehensible speeds.
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front, with just the qmail logo.
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From the Jargon File: (v4.0.0, 25 Jul 1996)
house wizard /n./
A hacker occupying
mail with qmail"
It seems more humorous and creative.
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From t
that's likely to be generated out of this.
Just a thought.
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>From the Jargon Fil
believe them! At least in some cities, these people
really know how to run a DSL business.
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erefore it will take them less time to FTP
the file instead of emailing it. (In other words, I give them an incentive
to avoid emailing large attachments -- their time is probably more valuable
to them than simply making me happy.)
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nly comment lines) would result in silent discarding of
messages, perhaps it should be made explicitly clear in the documentation?
It isn't intuitively obvious, especially since it differs from
qmail-local's behavior in the case of an empty (but present) .qmail file.
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but much power in the company's pecking order, and
who actually makes decisions about the software to be used based on
statements from the software company's marketing divisions.)
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cacy.html
http://zgp.org/~dmarti/linuxmanship/
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shocked -- *shocked* --
to discover that cr.yp.to is actually hosted at koobera.math.uic.edu!" )
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users are clamoring for Pine, does Pine
expect some particular mbox filename? And is there anything else I should
be asking or worrying about that I'm not?
Thanks very much.
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Kai MacTane
t; is not valid in DNS names.
I think the test mail was improperly addressed.
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o go to phreak (and then the
mail goes to the locations specified in .qmail-phreak).
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nd brittle when you alter it.
However, you might want to look at the way it does things and then roll
your own. You can find Big Brother at http://www.maclawran.ca.
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nel)
shadow passwords
qmail 1.03
daemontools 0.53
Let me know if any other details would help.
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fantastically attractive, and if
anyone has other ideas on how to do this, I'd be open to suggestions.
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't open :
not a selectable folder" when I try to open INBOX.
Any ideas?
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;s what he's doing.
Or, to put it another way, re-inventing the wheel is a waste of time for
normal people -- but not for people who are learning to be wheelwrights. :)
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ls into the first
category.
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>From the Jarg
now that not all gay
people are artists, writers, dancers and actors might be very pleased to
find a gay geek role model. Though I'll admit the Qmail mailing list isn't
really the place to look for that.
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S? Either way, do a
"man ps" and look for an option like "show processes of other users" or
"show all processes".
When you do a full ps listing, you'll probably want to pipe it through more
(or less).
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figurable) and rewrites my .sig accordingly. I don't
usually look to see which one it will be before sending -- except when
sending to management, when I try to make sure it isn't something like
"drool-proof paper" or similarly anti-management phrases. :)
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doesn't allow ? as a character in host or domain names.
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>From the Jargon File: (v4
I'd strongly advise getting it
and using it in conjunction with qmail and its assorted pieces.
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ference clear to you now?
Yeah. It's like some of us have been saying: this is more of a user (and
user-education) problem than it is a software problem.
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Kai MacTane
tous) typo, but either way, I like it.
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ver use these features -- our office has an Excel
spreadsheet exactly like what you describe -- just that it's rare enough
that most people probably don't just hit "enable macros" without thinking
about it.
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een thinking about that one a bit since it was mentioned
earlier. I really don't think the average MS Word user bothers with macros
at all, based on my experience as a word processing temp.)
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Kai Mac
How good is *that*
for security? :)
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ail, or do I get to blame M$?
Sorry, it ain't Microsoft's fault this time. :)
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the evil) of Melissa is that you *do* know the
person. It sends itself to folks that it finds at the top of someone's
Outlook address book -- presumably, folks they correspond with on some
basis or another.
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ouldn't
double-click on an attachment -- or open any other MS Office file that
comes in through any other channel.
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>From th
general audience) at:
http://www.zdnet.com/zdnn/stories/news/0,4586,2233667,00.html
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ormally corresponds
with.
Of course, if the recipient users were smart, they might think "what
important information I asked you for?"
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ompiled).
Ugh, it's too early in the morning for me to write stuff like this. I'm
going for breakfast.
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ably be a bit
creepy, if I weren't sure you know better. :)
"Bill Gates? Isn't he the guy who invented the Internet, back in 1995?"
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e person may have made off with more than US$1000...).
Just a minor nit-pick. :)
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download. Other patches that I hear about a lot on this list (this is just
off the top of my head, and totally non-scientific) are: rblsmtpd,
qmail-uce, qmail-popbull and quite a few that I'm accidentally forgetting. :)
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;maxine@localhost" or at least "&maxine".
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>From the Jargon File: (v4.0.0, 25 Jul 1996)
firef
documentation doesn't do that to people.
Which might result in my dumbing it down too much, but that's another problem.
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major foopah.
I don't think it's really that awful, although I do prefer the idea of
training the users to deal with the system properly rather than expecting
it to read their minds.
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n change the root password. (Of course, if they
routinely log in as root from the console, that wouldn't work.)
Either way, if your users keep screwing up with root power, some kind of
safeguards need to be put in place.
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;libdb.so.2
>libdl.so.2
>libgdbm.so.2
>libm.so.6
>libnsl.so.1
>/bin/sh <<< repeated
>/usr/bin/perl
Any idea why it needs /bin/sh twice?
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, but it beats letting my
Spanish atrophy completely.
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as awful as I think it is -- I had to use
AltaVista's translation service for some technical terms, and that
translation may be completely wrong.]
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everyone else moves up one.
I'm not sure where you'd rather keep name-list, hence the lack of path
information on that file.
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need to restart anything, right?
Hope these questions aren't too simple. Thanks.
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achment
along with the rest of the message. I thought it was supposed to strip out
attachments in its failure messages?
For the record, I'm using Eudora 3.0.5 for Windows 95. I attached a copy of
Windows' calc.exe utility using MIME.
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d version at the end of a text/html part. I
suspect that messages that contain neither text/plain nor text/html parts
constitute less than .1% of traffic on most systems.
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o different lists probably *should* be
fragmented -- or at least, they normally will be. After all, they are two
_separate_ lists, right?
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lot more than the ability to
customize my headers.)
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>From the Jargon File: (v4.0.0, 25 Jul 1996)
nted to reply, I agreed with them.
I now munge quite happily, and have had no complaints.
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Alas, this doesn't always work in practice. Many MUAs don't get it right.
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t tells you how to set up a selective relay.
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