Re: [Qemu-devel] qemu/pc-bios ppc_rom.bin

2007-10-06 Thread Blue Swirl
On 10/5/07, Natalia Portillo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It is desiderable for QEMU, > no way, > IT IS A MUST FOR QEMU, > to be able to boot real firmware that boots in the real hardware QEMU is > emulating. > > (That is, if QEMU emulates a PIIX4 with Pentium II, it must support booting > a BIOS f

Re: [Qemu-devel] qemu/pc-bios ppc_rom.bin

2007-10-05 Thread Natalia Portillo
d, extrapolate what I say to PowerPC, MIPS, ARM, Alpha, Sparc, so on! Regards, Natalia Portillo - Original Message - From: "Thiemo Seufer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Blue Swirl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Sent: Monday, October 01, 2

Re: [Qemu-devel] qemu/pc-bios ppc_rom.bin

2007-10-01 Thread Thiemo Seufer
Blue Swirl wrote: [snip] > > > Qemu is not also aimed for 100% accurate emulation of the hardware. > > > There are no caches or cycle counters and hardware devices run > > > unrealistically fast from CPU standpoint. Emulating performance > > > counters or the errata the most CPUs have would be extr

Re: [Qemu-devel] qemu/pc-bios ppc_rom.bin

2007-10-01 Thread Laurent Desnogues
Aurelien Jarno a écrit : Maybe. The CPU probes for cacheline size, checks for errata #42 vs #45, reads debug registers, attempts to identify the bus speed by comparing I/O access times, tries to verify the system using a TPM and fails all cases. What can you do? Emulate a simpler architecture l

Re: [Qemu-devel] qemu/pc-bios ppc_rom.bin

2007-10-01 Thread Aurelien Jarno
Blue Swirl a écrit : > On 10/1/07, Thiemo Seufer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Blue Swirl wrote: >> The one doesn't exclude the other. That said, I regard the ability to >> boot unaltered real-world firmare as an important test of the quality >> of a system emulation. > > Maybe. The CPU probes fo

Re: [Qemu-devel] qemu/pc-bios ppc_rom.bin

2007-10-01 Thread Fabrice Bellard
Blue Swirl wrote: On 10/1/07, Jocelyn Mayer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Mon, 2007-10-01 at 17:55 +0300, Blue Swirl wrote: On 10/1/07, Andreas Färber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Am 01.10.2007 um 09:12 schrieb Bob Deblier: Ideally we should have an OpenBIOS compiled for QEMU/PPC. Is anyone wo

Re: [Qemu-devel] qemu/pc-bios ppc_rom.bin

2007-10-01 Thread J. Mayer
On Mon, 2007-10-01 at 22:31 +0300, Blue Swirl wrote: > On 10/1/07, Thiemo Seufer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Blue Swirl wrote: > > > On 10/1/07, Jocelyn Mayer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > On Mon, 2007-10-01 at 17:55 +0300, Blue Swirl wrote: > > > > > On 10/1/07, Andreas Färber <[EMAIL PROT

Re: [Qemu-devel] qemu/pc-bios ppc_rom.bin

2007-10-01 Thread Blue Swirl
On 10/1/07, Thiemo Seufer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Blue Swirl wrote: > > On 10/1/07, Jocelyn Mayer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Mon, 2007-10-01 at 17:55 +0300, Blue Swirl wrote: > > > > On 10/1/07, Andreas Färber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Am 01.10.2007 um 09:12 schri

Re: [Qemu-devel] qemu/pc-bios ppc_rom.bin

2007-10-01 Thread Thiemo Seufer
Blue Swirl wrote: > On 10/1/07, Jocelyn Mayer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Mon, 2007-10-01 at 17:55 +0300, Blue Swirl wrote: > > > On 10/1/07, Andreas Färber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > Am 01.10.2007 um 09:12 schrieb Bob Deblier: > > > > > > > > > Ideally we should have an OpenB

Re: [Qemu-devel] qemu/pc-bios ppc_rom.bin

2007-10-01 Thread J. Mayer
On Mon, 2007-10-01 at 09:05 +0200, Avi Kivity wrote: > Jocelyn Mayer wrote: > > CVSROOT:/sources/qemu > > Module name:qemu > > Changes by: Jocelyn Mayer 07/10/01 06:44:33 > > > > Modified files: > > pc-bios: ppc_rom.bin > > > > Log message: > > Quickly hack PowerPC BIO

Re: [Qemu-devel] qemu/pc-bios ppc_rom.bin

2007-10-01 Thread Jocelyn Mayer
On Mon, 2007-10-01 at 19:36 +0300, Blue Swirl wrote: > On 10/1/07, Jocelyn Mayer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Mon, 2007-10-01 at 17:55 +0300, Blue Swirl wrote: > > > On 10/1/07, Andreas Färber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > Am 01.10.2007 um 09:12 schrieb Bob Deblier: > > > > > > >

Re: [Qemu-devel] qemu/pc-bios ppc_rom.bin

2007-10-01 Thread Blue Swirl
On 10/1/07, Jocelyn Mayer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, 2007-10-01 at 17:55 +0300, Blue Swirl wrote: > > On 10/1/07, Andreas Färber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > Am 01.10.2007 um 09:12 schrieb Bob Deblier: > > > > > > > Ideally we should have an OpenBIOS compiled for QEMU/PPC. Is an

Re: [Qemu-devel] qemu/pc-bios ppc_rom.bin

2007-10-01 Thread Jocelyn Mayer
On Mon, 2007-10-01 at 17:55 +0300, Blue Swirl wrote: > On 10/1/07, Andreas Färber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Am 01.10.2007 um 09:12 schrieb Bob Deblier: > > > > > Ideally we should have an OpenBIOS compiled for QEMU/PPC. Is anyone > > > working on this? > > > > I had looked into this recent

Re: [Qemu-devel] qemu/pc-bios ppc_rom.bin

2007-10-01 Thread Blue Swirl
On 10/1/07, Andreas Färber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Am 01.10.2007 um 09:12 schrieb Bob Deblier: > > > Ideally we should have an OpenBIOS compiled for QEMU/PPC. Is anyone > > working on this? > > I had looked into this recently but it turned out that PearPC and > others using OpenBIOS/ppc use

Re: [Qemu-devel] qemu/pc-bios ppc_rom.bin

2007-10-01 Thread Andreas Färber
Am 01.10.2007 um 09:12 schrieb Bob Deblier: Ideally we should have an OpenBIOS compiled for QEMU/PPC. Is anyone working on this? I had looked into this recently but it turned out that PearPC and others using OpenBIOS/ppc use an ELF format OpenBIOS binary that is incompatible with QEMU, ex

Re: [Qemu-devel] qemu/pc-bios ppc_rom.bin

2007-10-01 Thread Bob Deblier
On Mon, 2007-10-01 at 13:40 +0200, Aurelien Jarno wrote: > Bob Deblier a écrit : > > On Mon, 2007-10-01 at 09:05 +0200, Avi Kivity wrote: > >> Jocelyn Mayer wrote: > >>> CVSROOT: /sources/qemu > >>> Module name: qemu > >>> Changes by: Jocelyn Mayer 07/10/01 06:44:33 > >>> > >>> Modifie

Re: [Qemu-devel] qemu/pc-bios ppc_rom.bin

2007-10-01 Thread Aurelien Jarno
Bob Deblier a écrit : > On Mon, 2007-10-01 at 09:05 +0200, Avi Kivity wrote: >> Jocelyn Mayer wrote: >>> CVSROOT:/sources/qemu >>> Module name:qemu >>> Changes by: Jocelyn Mayer 07/10/01 06:44:33 >>> >>> Modified files: >>> pc-bios: ppc_rom.bin >>> >>> Log message: >>>

Re: [Qemu-devel] qemu/pc-bios ppc_rom.bin

2007-10-01 Thread Bob Deblier
On Mon, 2007-10-01 at 09:05 +0200, Avi Kivity wrote: > Jocelyn Mayer wrote: > > CVSROOT:/sources/qemu > > Module name:qemu > > Changes by: Jocelyn Mayer 07/10/01 06:44:33 > > > > Modified files: > > pc-bios: ppc_rom.bin > > > > Log message: > > Quickly hack PowerPC BIO

Re: [Qemu-devel] qemu/pc-bios ppc_rom.bin

2007-09-30 Thread Avi Kivity
Jocelyn Mayer wrote: > CVSROOT: /sources/qemu > Module name: qemu > Changes by: Jocelyn Mayer 07/10/01 06:44:33 > > Modified files: > pc-bios: ppc_rom.bin > > Log message: > Quickly hack PowerPC BIOS able to boot on CDROM again. > > CVSWeb URLs: > http://cvs.savannah.g

[Qemu-devel] qemu/pc-bios ppc_rom.bin

2007-09-30 Thread Jocelyn Mayer
CVSROOT:/sources/qemu Module name:qemu Changes by: Jocelyn Mayer 07/10/01 06:44:33 Modified files: pc-bios: ppc_rom.bin Log message: Quickly hack PowerPC BIOS able to boot on CDROM again. CVSWeb URLs: http://cvs.savannah.gnu.org/viewcvs/qemu/pc-bios/ppc_

[Qemu-devel] qemu/pc-bios ppc_rom.bin ohw.diff

2005-07-03 Thread Fabrice Bellard
CVSROOT:/cvsroot/qemu Module name:qemu Branch: Changes by: Fabrice Bellard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 05/07/03 16:25:26 Modified files: pc-bios: ppc_rom.bin Added files: pc-bios: ohw.diff Log message: temporary version with better Da