Re: [Qemu-devel] pvpanic device should not be automatically included as an internal device

2013-08-02 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
On Fri, Aug 02, 2013 at 10:31:11AM +0200, Paolo Bonzini wrote: > On 08/02/2013 12:42 AM, Eric Blake wrote: > >On 08/01/2013 04:23 PM, Paolo Bonzini wrote: > >>>Automatic devices with no command line argument have proven to be a > >>>nightmare for libvirt as well. Although the just-released libvirt

Re: [Qemu-devel] pvpanic device should not be automatically included as an internal device

2013-08-02 Thread Paolo Bonzini
On 08/02/2013 12:42 AM, Eric Blake wrote: On 08/01/2013 04:23 PM, Paolo Bonzini wrote: Automatic devices with no command line argument have proven to be a nightmare for libvirt as well. Although the just-released libvirt 1.1.1 now supports the element for controlling the command line parameter

Re: [Qemu-devel] pvpanic device should not be automatically included as an internal device

2013-08-01 Thread Marcel Apfelbaum
On Thu, 2013-08-01 at 16:32 +0300, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote: > On Thu, Aug 01, 2013 at 04:08:57PM +0300, Marcel Apfelbaum wrote: > > Hi, > > > > The problem with pvpanic being an internal device is that VMs running > > operating systems without a driver for this device will have problems > > when

Re: [Qemu-devel] pvpanic device should not be automatically included as an internal device

2013-08-01 Thread Michael S. Tsirkin
On Thu, Aug 01, 2013 at 04:08:57PM +0300, Marcel Apfelbaum wrote: > Hi, > > The problem with pvpanic being an internal device is that VMs running > operating systems without a driver for this device will have problems > when qemu will be upgraded (from qemu without this pvpanic). > > The outcome

Re: [Qemu-devel] pvpanic device should not be automatically included as an internal device

2013-08-01 Thread Eric Blake
On 08/01/2013 04:23 PM, Paolo Bonzini wrote: >> Automatic devices with no command line argument have proven to be a >> nightmare for libvirt as well. Although the just-released libvirt 1.1.1 >> now supports the element for controlling the command line >> parameters of qemu related to how qemu wil

Re: [Qemu-devel] pvpanic device should not be automatically included as an internal device

2013-08-01 Thread Paolo Bonzini
On 08/01/2013 06:26 PM, Eric Blake wrote: On 08/01/2013 08:18 AM, Gerd Hoffmann wrote: On 08/01/13 15:08, Marcel Apfelbaum wrote: Hi, The problem with pvpanic being an internal device is that VMs running operating systems without a driver for this device will have problems when qemu will be up

Re: [Qemu-devel] pvpanic device should not be automatically included as an internal device

2013-08-01 Thread Michael S. Tsirkin
On Thu, Aug 01, 2013 at 10:26:53AM -0600, Eric Blake wrote: > On 08/01/2013 08:18 AM, Gerd Hoffmann wrote: > > On 08/01/13 15:08, Marcel Apfelbaum wrote: > >> Hi, > >> > >> The problem with pvpanic being an internal device is that VMs running > >> operating systems without a driver for this device

Re: [Qemu-devel] pvpanic device should not be automatically included as an internal device

2013-08-01 Thread Marcel Apfelbaum
On Thu, 2013-08-01 at 19:31 +0300, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote: > On Thu, Aug 01, 2013 at 10:26:53AM -0600, Eric Blake wrote: > > On 08/01/2013 08:18 AM, Gerd Hoffmann wrote: > > > On 08/01/13 15:08, Marcel Apfelbaum wrote: > > >> Hi, > > >> > > >> The problem with pvpanic being an internal device is

Re: [Qemu-devel] pvpanic device should not be automatically included as an internal device

2013-08-01 Thread Eric Blake
On 08/01/2013 08:18 AM, Gerd Hoffmann wrote: > On 08/01/13 15:08, Marcel Apfelbaum wrote: >> Hi, >> >> The problem with pvpanic being an internal device is that VMs running >> operating systems without a driver for this device will have problems >> when qemu will be upgraded (from qemu without this

Re: [Qemu-devel] pvpanic device should not be automatically included as an internal device

2013-08-01 Thread Gerd Hoffmann
On 08/01/13 15:08, Marcel Apfelbaum wrote: > Hi, > > The problem with pvpanic being an internal device is that VMs running > operating systems without a driver for this device will have problems > when qemu will be upgraded (from qemu without this pvpanic). > > The outcome may be, for example: in

[Qemu-devel] pvpanic device should not be automatically included as an internal device

2013-08-01 Thread Marcel Apfelbaum
Hi, The problem with pvpanic being an internal device is that VMs running operating systems without a driver for this device will have problems when qemu will be upgraded (from qemu without this pvpanic). The outcome may be, for example: in Windows(let's say XP) the Device manager will open a "ne