Re: [Detaolb-devel] [Qemu-devel] ANN: DetaolB v0.4 is released

2007-07-11 Thread Christian MICHON
On 7/11/07, Rob Landley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I look forward to a fix. It would be nice to add sparc to the "actually works" list. :) that's 2 persons looking forward to it. ;-) today's results: - uclibc ok (minus the segfaults coming from it) - conf from busybox segfaults - bash segfaul

Re: [Detaolb-devel] [Qemu-devel] ANN: DetaolB v0.4 is released

2007-07-11 Thread Christian MICHON
On 7/11/07, Rob Landley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: When you get that kind of segmentation fault, see if "hello world" segfaults too. (In general, when building with a new toolchain, new C library, new kernel, new root filesystem packaging method, or a new system in general, if anything goes wron

Re: [Qemu-devel] ANN: DetaolB v0.4 is released

2007-07-11 Thread Rob Landley
On Wednesday 11 July 2007 7:17:28 am Blue Swirl wrote: > On 7/10/07, Rob Landley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Tuesday 10 July 2007 14:30:38 Blue Swirl wrote: > > > > The sparc platform has a problem that if I boot with init as a "hello > > > > world" program everything behaves as expected (the

Re: [Detaolb-devel] [Qemu-devel] ANN: DetaolB v0.4 is released

2007-07-11 Thread Rob Landley
On Wednesday 11 July 2007 9:34:17 am Christian MICHON wrote: > I just managed a compilation of bash-3.2 using ncurses-5.6 and > uClibc-0.9.29 inside a qemu-system-sparc (native compilation, > no cross compilation). > > "ldd ./bash" points naturally to libdl.so.0, libc.so.0, ld-uClibc.so.0 > > ./bas

Re: [Detaolb-devel] [Qemu-devel] ANN: DetaolB v0.4 is released

2007-07-11 Thread Christian MICHON
On 7/11/07, Christian MICHON <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I just managed a compilation of bash-3.2 using ncurses-5.6 and uClibc-0.9.29 inside a qemu-system-sparc (native compilation, no cross compilation). "ldd ./bash" points naturally to libdl.so.0, libc.so.0, ld-uClibc.so.0 ./bash Segmentation

Re: [Detaolb-devel] [Qemu-devel] ANN: DetaolB v0.4 is released

2007-07-11 Thread Christian MICHON
On 7/11/07, Blue Swirl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It's entirely possibly that qemu and real sparc hardware are behaving > differently, but I'm not seeing this bus error under qemu. (I haven't got > real sparc hardware, so I can only debug against qemu...) Right. Debugging the problem I found

Re: [Qemu-devel] ANN: DetaolB v0.4 is released

2007-07-11 Thread Blue Swirl
On 7/10/07, Rob Landley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Tuesday 10 July 2007 14:30:38 Blue Swirl wrote: > > The sparc platform has a problem that if I boot with init as a "hello > > world" program everything behaves as expected (there are two in the image > > for testing purposes, /tools/bin/hello-

Re: [Qemu-devel] ANN: DetaolB v0.4 is released

2007-07-10 Thread Christian MICHON
On 7/10/07, Bernhard Fischer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Wed, Jul 04, 2007 at 09:54:48PM +0200, Cedric Hombourger wrote: >The busybox link failure has an existing entry in mantis: >http://www.uclibc.org/bugs/bug_view_advanced_page.php?bug_id=1356 Just to expand on this one last time, here is t

Re: [Qemu-devel] ANN: DetaolB v0.4 is released

2007-07-10 Thread Bernhard Fischer
On Wed, Jul 04, 2007 at 09:54:48PM +0200, Cedric Hombourger wrote: >The busybox link failure has an existing entry in mantis: >http://www.uclibc.org/bugs/bug_view_advanced_page.php?bug_id=1356 Just to expand on this one last time, here is the help-text of taskset: config TASKSET bool "task

Re: [Qemu-devel] ANN: DetaolB v0.4 is released

2007-07-10 Thread Rob Landley
On Tuesday 10 July 2007 14:30:38 Blue Swirl wrote: > > The sparc platform has a problem that if I boot with init as a "hello > > world" program everything behaves as expected (there are two in the image > > for testing purposes, /tools/bin/hello-dynamic and > > /tools/bin/hello-static). But if you

Re: [Qemu-devel] ANN: DetaolB v0.4 is released

2007-07-10 Thread Blue Swirl
The sparc platform has a problem that if I boot with init as a "hello world" program everything behaves as expected (there are two in the image for testing purposes, /tools/bin/hello-dynamic and /tools/bin/hello-static). But if you boot with init=/tools/bin/bash it hangs. And so do the busybox s

Re: [Qemu-devel] ANN: DetaolB v0.4 is released

2007-07-10 Thread Rob Landley
On Saturday 30 June 2007 13:15:44 Blue Swirl wrote: > On 6/30/07, Thiemo Seufer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Johannes Schindelin wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > On Sat, 30 Jun 2007, Blue Swirl wrote: > > > > On 6/30/07, Christian MICHON <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > DetaolB aimed to be a "muc

Re: [Qemu-devel] ANN: DetaolB v0.4 is released

2007-07-06 Thread Rob Landley
On Wednesday 04 July 2007 16:32:44 Christian MICHON wrote: > On 7/4/07, Andreas Färber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Is there a special reason to use Aurora? I thought it was an > > abandoned port of Fedora Core 2... (with Fedora 7 available nowadays) > > Debian was the only maintained Sparc distr

Re: [Qemu-devel] ANN: DetaolB v0.4 is released

2007-07-05 Thread Christian MICHON
On 7/5/07, Rob Landley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: What's the difference between deltaolb and Firmware Linux, anyway? I'm still curious about this. a few differences, quite minor actually (that's why I said in the past we shared many common goals :-) )... I actually started this in 2002, but t

Re: [Qemu-devel] ANN: DetaolB v0.4 is released

2007-07-05 Thread Rob Landley
On Wednesday 04 July 2007 16:11:19 Christian MICHON wrote: > On 7/4/07, Cedric Hombourger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > You may want to look at crosskit.sourceforge.net > > thanks for this hint. > > > I haven't looked at detaoib yet but it was surely created before crosskit > > and may therefore b

Re: [Qemu-devel] ANN: DetaolB v0.4 is released

2007-07-05 Thread Christian MICHON
ok, I found this file (google for it): stage3-sparc-2006.0.tar.bz2 I put it into a vmdk image file, preformatted in ext2 fs. I touched up a few files and used the sparc kernel and binaries from the qemu-windows page. I've now a native compiler for sparc32. I managed some stuff with it already.

Re: [Qemu-devel] ANN: DetaolB v0.4 is released

2007-07-04 Thread Christian MICHON
On 7/4/07, Blue Swirl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > what command line did you use when you reported a > successful installation of aurora earlier this year ? qemu-system-sparc -boot d -hda aurora-1.0.img -cdrom aurora-1.0-sparc-disc1.iso I tested Aurora 1.0 and 2.0, 2.1 can't read from cdrom. I

Re: [Qemu-devel] ANN: DetaolB v0.4 is released

2007-07-04 Thread Blue Swirl
On 7/4/07, Christian MICHON <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 7/4/07, Blue Swirl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Aurora is fine, Debian should work on Sparc too. when trying to boot aurora, it stops and complains about /dev/sda I already gave a hda disk. is it a problem of size or a problem of command

Re: [Qemu-devel] ANN: DetaolB v0.4 is released

2007-07-04 Thread Christian MICHON
On 7/4/07, Andreas Färber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Is there a special reason to use Aurora? I thought it was an abandoned port of Fedora Core 2... (with Fedora 7 available nowadays) Debian was the only maintained Sparc distribution I could recently find for qemu. that's the only port I found

Re: [Qemu-devel] ANN: DetaolB v0.4 is released

2007-07-04 Thread Christian MICHON
On 7/4/07, Blue Swirl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Aurora is fine, Debian should work on Sparc too. when trying to boot aurora, it stops and complains about /dev/sda I already gave a hda disk. is it a problem of size or a problem of command line switch ? what command line did you use when you r

Re: [Qemu-devel] ANN: DetaolB v0.4 is released

2007-07-04 Thread Andreas Färber
Am 04.07.2007 um 21:45 schrieb Christian MICHON: I plan to build uclibc and the rest natively from aurora linux 2.99 Is there a special reason to use Aurora? I thought it was an abandoned port of Fedora Core 2... (with Fedora 7 available nowadays) Debian was the only maintained Sparc distri

Re: [Qemu-devel] ANN: DetaolB v0.4 is released

2007-07-04 Thread Blue Swirl
On 7/4/07, Christian MICHON <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I noticed spurious fast keyboard repeats. Like I must be extra careful when typing commands when in the qemu-system-sparc guest. I thought that was fixed some time ago, but I'll check. I plan to build uclibc and the rest natively from aur

Re: [Qemu-devel] ANN: DetaolB v0.4 is released

2007-07-04 Thread Christian MICHON
On 7/4/07, Cedric Hombourger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: You may want to look at crosskit.sourceforge.net thanks for this hint. I haven't looked at detaoib yet but it was surely created before crosskit and may therefore be a safer bet. DetaolB aims to be a native solution, not a cross compi

Re: [Qemu-devel] ANN: DetaolB v0.4 is released

2007-07-04 Thread Cedric Hombourger
The busybox link failure has an existing entry in mantis: http://www.uclibc.org/bugs/bug_view_advanced_page.php?bug_id=1356 2007/7/4, Cedric Hombourger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Hi, You may want to look at crosskit.sourceforge.net (a crosstool/buildroot-like project that I have recently started an

Re: [Qemu-devel] ANN: DetaolB v0.4 is released

2007-07-04 Thread Cedric Hombourger
Hi, You may want to look at crosskit.sourceforge.net (a crosstool/buildroot-like project that I have recently started and that you can find on sourceforge). Following your e-mails, I have added sparc support. The toolchain builds fine but busybox fails to link (sched_getaffinity and sched_setaffi

Re: [Qemu-devel] ANN: DetaolB v0.4 is released

2007-07-04 Thread Christian MICHON
On 7/4/07, Blue Swirl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I used the attached config for sparc-test kernel build, with one patch for TCX that shouldn't be necessary for newer kernels. thanks. that'll save time. > will uclibc work well enough on sparc32 ? I have no first hand experience. Busybox work

Re: [Qemu-devel] ANN: DetaolB v0.4 is released

2007-07-04 Thread Blue Swirl
On 7/4/07, Christian MICHON <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 6/30/07, Blue Swirl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > As the number of Sparc32 distributions keeps approaching zero, could > you consider porting DetaolB to non-x86 CPUs? ok, I documented myself, and I'll try on sparc32. any hint on patches, c

Re: [Qemu-devel] ANN: DetaolB v0.4 is released

2007-07-04 Thread Christian MICHON
On 6/30/07, Blue Swirl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: As the number of Sparc32 distributions keeps approaching zero, could you consider porting DetaolB to non-x86 CPUs? ok, I documented myself, and I'll try on sparc32. any hint on patches, config files for the kernel ? will uclibc work well enough

Re: [Qemu-devel] ANN: DetaolB v0.4 is released

2007-06-30 Thread Blue Swirl
On 6/30/07, Thiemo Seufer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Johannes Schindelin wrote: > Hi, > > On Sat, 30 Jun 2007, Blue Swirl wrote: > > > On 6/30/07, Christian MICHON <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > DetaolB aimed to be a "much-less-than-a-floppy" x86 linux live distro. > > > Now, it's evolving more

Re: [Qemu-devel] ANN: DetaolB v0.4 is released

2007-06-30 Thread Christian MICHON
On 6/30/07, Johannes Schindelin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi, On Sat, 30 Jun 2007, Blue Swirl wrote: > On 6/30/07, Christian MICHON <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > DetaolB aimed to be a "much-less-than-a-floppy" x86 linux live distro. > > Now, it's evolving more into "a-la-slax" type of distro.

Re: [Qemu-devel] ANN: DetaolB v0.4 is released

2007-06-30 Thread Christian MICHON
On 6/30/07, Thiemo Seufer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The reason why distributions drop sparc32 is the unmaintained kernel. Nobody stepped up for Linux kernel maintenance in the last years. Debian managed to keep up a sort-of working kernel for the last release, the people who put their time into

Re: [Qemu-devel] ANN: DetaolB v0.4 is released

2007-06-30 Thread Thiemo Seufer
Johannes Schindelin wrote: > Hi, > > On Sat, 30 Jun 2007, Blue Swirl wrote: > > > On 6/30/07, Christian MICHON <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > DetaolB aimed to be a "much-less-than-a-floppy" x86 linux live distro. > > > Now, it's evolving more into "a-la-slax" type of distro. > > > > As the nu

Re: [Qemu-devel] ANN: DetaolB v0.4 is released

2007-06-30 Thread Johannes Schindelin
Hi, On Sat, 30 Jun 2007, Blue Swirl wrote: > On 6/30/07, Christian MICHON <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > DetaolB aimed to be a "much-less-than-a-floppy" x86 linux live distro. > > Now, it's evolving more into "a-la-slax" type of distro. > > As the number of Sparc32 distributions keeps approachi

Re: [Qemu-devel] ANN: DetaolB v0.4 is released

2007-06-30 Thread Blue Swirl
On 6/30/07, Christian MICHON <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: DetaolB aimed to be a "much-less-than-a-floppy" x86 linux live distro. Now, it's evolving more into "a-la-slax" type of distro. As the number of Sparc32 distributions keeps approaching zero, could you consider porting DetaolB to non-x86 CP

[Qemu-devel] ANN: DetaolB v0.4 is released

2007-06-29 Thread Christian MICHON
DetaolB aimed to be a "much-less-than-a-floppy" x86 linux live distro. Now, it's evolving more into "a-la-slax" type of distro. DetaolB v0.4 has been released 29th,June 2007 on sf.net => http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=140321&package_id=155481&release_id=519786 Mailing lis