Subject: [Qemu-devel][PATCH v3 0/5] This patch-set is to enable Guest
CET support.
Control-flow Enforcement Technology (CET) provides protection against
return/jump-oriented programming (ROP) attacks. To make kvm Guest OS own
the capability, this patch-set is required. It enables CET related CPUID
baiyao...@cmss.chinamobile.com
Bcc:
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] tcmu: Introduce qemu-tcmu utility
Reply-To: baiyao...@cmss.chinamobile.com
In-Reply-To: <20190102015321.GA26514@byw>
Add Xiubo.
On Wed, Jan 02, 2019 at 09:53:21AM +0800, Yaowei Bai wrote:
> Ping.
>
> BTW, it should be update
Please add android support
On Thu, 29 Nov 2018 at 02:11, berkus infinitus wrote:
>
> I suspect the main problem is the blocking call to qemu_main
> from the UI thread in the app delegate didFinishLoadingWithOptions
> if i’m not mistaken and everything else grows from there.
Yes; if there's no way that Mojave will allow us
I suspect the main problem is the blocking call to qemu_main from the UI
thread in the app delegate didFinishLoadingWithOptions if i’m not mistaken
and everything else grows from there. Going to build and run it now, since
I woke up in the middle of the night anyway for reasons unexplainable)
On Th
> On Nov 28, 2018, at 2:39 PM, Peter Maydell wrote:
>
> On Wed, 28 Nov 2018 at 01:12, John Arbuckle wrote:
>>
>> From af4497f2b161bb4165acb8eee5cae3f2a7ea2227 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
>> From: John Arbuckle
>> Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2018 20:01:20 -0500
>> Subject: [PATCH] ui/cocoa.m: fix crash du
On Wed, 28 Nov 2018 at 01:12, John Arbuckle wrote:
>
> From af4497f2b161bb4165acb8eee5cae3f2a7ea2227 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
> From: John Arbuckle
> Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2018 20:01:20 -0500
> Subject: [PATCH] ui/cocoa.m: fix crash due to cocoa_refresh() on Mac OS 10.14
Something seems to have got
>From af4497f2b161bb4165acb8eee5cae3f2a7ea2227 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: John Arbuckle
Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2018 20:01:20 -0500
Subject: [PATCH] ui/cocoa.m: fix crash due to cocoa_refresh() on Mac OS 10.14
Mac OS 10.14 only wants UI code to be called from the main thread. The
cocoa_refresh() fu
I fooled around a bit, and I think there are a few lose ends.
Lets update the examples in docs/interop/qmp-spec.txt to show the
current greeting (section 3.1) and how to accept a capability (section
3.2). The capability negotiation documentation could use some polish.
I'll post a patch.
Talking
It is V3 of multiboot improvements to Qemu
Changes made sinse V2:
- rebase on top of qemu master changes
- make multiboot/sections test more reliable
Add generate_sections_out.py script that generates ELF sections information
- rename 'struct section_data' to 'struct SectionData' to mat
zhangchen.f...@cn.fujitsu.com, wang.guan...@zte.com.cn,
wang.yong...@zte.com.cn
Bcc:
Subject: colo-compare: segfault and assert on colo_compare_finalize
Reply-To:
Hi all,
I have found a problem on colo-compare that leads to segmentation fault
when calling qemu like this:
$ qemu-system-x86_64
Hello,
I am Vaibhav Shukla, sophomore student of Indian Institute of Information
Technology, Kalyani, India.
I would like to contribute in some projects in your company, please guide me
that how can I do so.
I shall be highly grateful to you.
Yours Sincerely
Hi,
This series seems to have some coding style problems. See output below for
more information:
Subject: [Qemu-devel] (no subject)
Type: series
Message-id: 536fb79a-5753-4143-a5a6-7a189ef5137e@ONE.local
=== TEST SCRIPT BEGIN ===
#!/bin/bash
BASE=base
n=1
total=$(git log --oneline $BASE.. | wc
Hi,
This series failed automatic build test. Please find the testing commands and
their output below. If you have docker installed, you can probably reproduce it
locally.
Subject: [Qemu-devel] (no subject)
Type: series
Message-id: 536fb79a-5753-4143-a5a6-7a189ef5137e@ONE.local
=== TEST SCRIPT
>From 836daaff38940535548043f2e8f2e3df7a62d473 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: John Bradley
Date: Wed, 17 May 2017 18:57:21 +0100
Subject: [PATCH] [PATCH] Add code to connect with
https://github.com/flypie/GDummyPanel The code uses GNU Sockets & Windows
sockets as on MINGW GNU no available. This
Dear James,
Thanks a lot for your review and comments. I am very sorry for the
late response.
2017-05-04 23:42 GMT+08:00 gengdongjiu :
> Hi Dongjiu Geng,
>
> On 30/04/17 06:37, Dongjiu Geng wrote:
>> when happen SEA, deliver signal bus and handle the ioctl that
>> inject SEA abort to guest, s
On 03/16/2017 09:50 AM, Vinzenz 'evilissimo' Feenstra wrote:
> In this version:
When sending a v2, it's best to send it as a new top-level thread
instead of burying it in-reply-to an older thread. Also, don't forget
the subject line on the header message.
>
> - Changed the use of strdup to g_str
In this version:
- Changed the use of strdup to g_strdup and the use of sprintf with a local
buffer to use g_strdup_printf instead.
- Made the majority of fields in the GuestOSInfo optional to allow 0 values
- Used the right target version in the schema (2.10 vs 2.8 before)
- Refactored the code
(forgot to CC the list, already sent to Richard Henderson and Alexander Graf)
Subject: [PATCH] aarch64: Change ext type to TCGType to fix warnings
To fix the following warnings:
In file included from /users/pranith/qemu/tcg/tcg.c:255:
/users/pranith/qemu/tcg/aarch64/tcg-target.inc.c:879:24: warning: implicit
conversion from enumeration type 'TCGMemOp' (aka 'enum TCGMemOp'
On Mon, Jan 02, 2017 at 09:03:55PM +0900, morgenlette madeBy wrote:
> I got problem using QEMU.
>
> when i turn on virtual machine,
>
> this message was shown,
>
>
> virsh: error while loading shared libraries: libapparmor.so.1: cannot open
> shared object file: No such file or directory
>
> I
hello.
I got problem using QEMU.
when i turn on virtual machine,
this message was shown,
virsh: error while loading shared libraries: libapparmor.so.1: cannot open
shared object file: No such file or directory
I have no idea about libapparmor.
What should I do?
Hi Christopher,
On 16.11.2016 20:41, Christopher Oliver wrote:
> This patch (hack?) works around the slowness in SEEK_HOLE for large dense
> files
> on Linux tmpfs. It may improve life elsewhere as well, and the penalty of
> the checks
> should be vanishingly small where it is not needed.
>
>
This patch (hack?) works around the slowness in SEEK_HOLE for large dense files
on Linux tmpfs. It may improve life elsewhere as well, and the penalty of the
checks
should be vanishingly small where it is not needed.
If I'm subtly (or not so subtly) wrong, please fire back.
Sincerely,
--
Chri
Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2016 10:53:16 -0400
Subject: [PATCH V8] fsdev: add IO throttle support to fsdev devices
Uses throttling APIs to limit I/O bandwidth and number of operations on the
devices which use 9p-local driver.
This adds the support for the 9p-local driver.
For now this functionality can b
Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2016 17:38:24 +1100
Subject: [PATCH 0/3] ppc: system reset interrupt fixes and new hcall IPI
Hi,
We are implementing this new unmaskable IPI hcall for crash dumping
and debugging. I had some issues with QEMU delivering system reset
interrupt to guests, which was caused by the H
Dear Sir/Ma'am
I want to ‘annotate’ the translation buffers - (adding a mechanism in the
translation buffers where we can store how many times they were executed,
and, for each one, add some ‘amount’ could be power, could be anything). I
need held to understand the translation buffer code in qemu,
HI ,
I am interested in applying for Outreachy 2016 December- March round by
contributing to VIRTIO 1.0 support in libqos project for Qemu.
Kindly let me know how to get started with this project.
Shreya Shrivastava
Hi Fam
Thanks! Yes gdb provides one approach but I was wondering if there was
something built in to QEMU monitor.
Another application I can see for this would be to inject errors into the
memory, This will be useful for testing new NVDIMM-P technology that builds
NVDIMMs out of material that i
On Mon, 09/12 16:23, Stephen Bates wrote:
> Hi
Hi Stephen,
>
> I sent this to qemu-discuss with no success so resending to qemu-devel.
>
> I am doing some very low level OS design work and wanted to be able to
> alter some values in the physical memory of my QEMU guest. I can see quite
> a few
Hi
I sent this to qemu-discuss with no success so resending to qemu-devel.
I am doing some very low level OS design work and wanted to be able to
alter some values in the physical memory of my QEMU guest. I can see quite
a few ways to print/dump both physical and virtual addresses but nothing
tha
*Kumud Bhat*
Department of Computer and Information science
Purdue School of Science,IUPUI
Indianapolis-IN, United States
On 03/21/2016 05:09 PM, Peter Maydell wrote:
> On 21 March 2016 at 18:00, John Snow wrote:
>> Looks like one of your libraries is outdated, for me
>> 'IBV_LINK_LAYER_INFINIBAND' is defined in
>> /usr/include/infiniband/verbs.h; provided by
>> libibverbs-devel-1.1.8-3.fc22.x86_64.
>>
>> Maybe you
On 21 March 2016 at 18:00, John Snow wrote:
> Looks like one of your libraries is outdated, for me
> 'IBV_LINK_LAYER_INFINIBAND' is defined in
> /usr/include/infiniband/verbs.h; provided by
> libibverbs-devel-1.1.8-3.fc22.x86_64.
>
> Maybe your libibverbs is too old.
We should probably add a suit
On 03/21/2016 04:44 AM, Yunqiang Gao wrote:
> Hi,alls,
>
> I compile qemu on ubuntu 12.04,when "make",some error appears.the error:
>
> migration/rdma.c: In function ‘qemu_rdma_dump_id’:
> migration/rdma.c:738:21: error: ‘struct ibv_port_attr’ has no member
> named ‘link_layer’
> migration/rdm
Hi,alls,
I compile qemu on ubuntu 12.04,when "make",some error appears.the error:
migration/rdma.c: In function ‘qemu_rdma_dump_id’:
migration/rdma.c:738:21: error: ‘struct ibv_port_attr’ has no member named
‘link_layer’
migration/rdma.c:739:22: error: ‘struct ibv_port_attr’ has no member named
Subject: [PATCH RESEND v2 0/2] Fix flaw of qemu_put_compression_data
The implementation of qemu_put_compression_data only consider the case
QEMUFile is writable, it can't work with a writable QEMUFile and does
not provide any measure to prevent users from using it with a writable
QEMUFile. For saf
On 17/11/2015 14:08, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> below is a fix for a bug in the qemu NVMe identify implementation that's
> causing us some trouble with an updated Linux driver. We'll have to
> blacklist the existing Qemu device ID for it, so I wonder how we can
> advertize a fixed controller. M
From: Christoph Hellwig
Subject: a nasty nvme fix
In-Reply-To:
Hi all,
below is a fix for a bug in the qemu NVMe identify implementation that's
causing us some trouble with an updated Linux driver. We'll have to
blacklist the existing Qemu device ID for it, so I wonder how we can
advertize a f
Subject: [PATCH 0/2 v2] virtio-rng: Avoid uncessary timer trigger to bump up
quota value
Timer was added in virtio-rng to rate limit the
entropy. It used to trigger at regular intervals to
bump up the quota value. The value of quota and timer
is used to ensure single guest should not use up all
The monivation of this set is simple. Recently we have proposed patch
to monitor.c with specific x86 APIC HMP commands. The patchset was denied
with the main motivation "No more arch specific code in monitor.c"
This patchset is the first step to move arch specific code from
monitor.c targets.
So,
On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 3:18 AM, Fam Zheng wrote:
> On Tue, 06/30 00:49, Scott Feldman wrote:
>> Hi Fam, Stefan,
>>
>> I'm running a test with rocker device using UDP sockets connections
>> and I'm seeing the socket s->read_poll stay disabled if the device
>> receives a packet when the device's ca
On Tue, 06/30 00:49, Scott Feldman wrote:
> Hi Fam, Stefan,
>
> I'm running a test with rocker device using UDP sockets connections
> and I'm seeing the socket s->read_poll stay disabled if the device
> receives a packet when the device's can_receive returns false.
> Receive is stuck after that; n
Hi Fam, Stefan,
I'm running a test with rocker device using UDP sockets connections
and I'm seeing the socket s->read_poll stay disabled if the device
receives a packet when the device's can_receive returns false.
Receive is stuck after that; nothing ever re-enables s->read_poll. I
see the first
Hi
Recently, I've submitted patches to QEMU mailing list, introducing
creation of Windows MSI installation package for Windows QEMU Guest Agent,
but received not replies. Please, look into the suggested changes.
The patches may be found in patchwork as
http://patchwork.ozlabs.org/patch/46
Hi
Recently, I've submitted patches to QEMU mailing list, introducing
creation of Windows MSI installation package for Windows QEMU Guest Agent,
but received not replies. Please, look into the suggested changes.
The patches may be found in patchwork as
http://patchwork.ozlabs.org/patch/46
Hi
Recently, I've submitted patches to QEMU mailing list, introducing
creation of Windows MSI installation package for Windows QEMU Guest Agent,
but received not replies. Please, look into the suggested changes.
The patches may be found in patchwork as
http://patchwork.ozlabs.org/patch/46
Hi
Recently, I've submitted patches to QEMU mailing list, introducing
creation of Windows MSI installation package for Windows QEMU Guest Agent,
but received not replies. Please, look into the suggested changes.
The patches may be found in patchwork as
http://patchwork.ozlabs.org/patch/46
Hi
Recently, I've submitted patches to QEMU mailing list, introducing
creation of Windows MSI installation package for Windows QEMU Guest Agent,
but received not replies. Please, look into the suggested changes.
The patches may be found in patchwork as
http://patchwork.ozlabs.org/patch/46
Hi,
I ran into an issue where the OVA created from the VMDK file created by
qemu-img is rejected by vSphere with a message like "Not a supported disk
format (sparse VMDK too old)". I was looking through the archives and found
this:
http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/qemu-devel/2014-08/msg01028.
stefa...@redhat.com
Bcc:
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] qcow2: Can create qcow2 image format on rbd server
Reply-To:
In-Reply-To: <5481e4e7.9010...@redhat.com>
On Fri, 12/05 18:01, Max Reitz wrote:
> On 2014-12-05 at 16:32, Jun Li wrote:
> >Currently, qemu-img can not create qcow2 image format on rbd
hello
Hello Experts,
I am using CentOS 6.5. I am getting an issue with libguestfs (qemu-kvm)
# /usr/libexec/qemu-kvm -nographic -machine accel=kvm:tcg -device \?
open /dev/kvm: No such file or directory
failed to initialize KVM: Operation not permitted
Back to tcg accelerator.
Could not allocate
Hi,
I want to be able to install RPM packages (available in host system at some
path) to the online guest VM and want this facility to be available as a
tool.
I am thinking of having a gemu guest agent (qemu-ga) running inside guest
VM. I did not find any available command ("virsh qemu-agent-comm
Put qemu-devel on CC
On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 09:33:22PM +0200, Marcel Apfelbaum wrote:
> Ensure more then one instance of test_data may exist
> at a given time. It will help to compare different
> acpi table versions.
>
> Signed-off-by: Marcel Apfelbaum
Applied, thanks.
> ---
> tests/acpi-test.c | 55
> ++
>From 1273f8b2e5464ec987facf9942fd3ccc0b69087e Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: Liu Jinsong
Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2013 09:33:30 +0800
Subject: [PATCH] qemu-kvm bugfix for IA32_FEATURE_CONTROL
This patch is to fix the bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/qemu-kvm/+bug/1207623
IA32_FEATURE_CONTROL is pointles
Thanks for the feedback. I've made the maxqdepth parameter optional as
requested.
On Tue, Apr 02, 2013 at 12:02:52PM -0400, Elizabeth Brown wrote:
> I was wondering if anyone could help me by setting up a wiki account for me?
Done.
Stefan
I was wondering if anyone could help me by setting up a wiki account for me?
thank you very much for your assistance!
Elizabeth Brown
---
v2: change __FUNCTION__ to __func__ according to qemu coding style
>From Stefan Priebe # This line is ignored.
From: Stefan Priebe
Cc: pve-de...@pve.proxmox.com
Cc: pbonz...@redhat.com
Cc: ceph-de...@vger.kernel.org
Subject: QEMU/PATCH: rbd block driver: fix race between completition and cancel
In-Reply-To:
ve-de...@pve.proxmox.com
pbonz...@redhat.com
ceph-de.
are available in the git repository at:
git://github.com/gxt/QEMU.git unicore32
Andreas Färber (1):
target-unicore32: Drop UC32_CPUID macros
Guan Xuetao (13):
unicore32-softmmu: Add unicore32-softmmu build support
unicore32-softmmu: Add coprocessor 0(sysctrl) and 1(ocd) inst
Hello there,
Consider I`ve an apllication A executing in "linux-user" mode. How can
I monitor the execution of some instructions from A? For example, all
calls. I thought inserting an interrupt before all calls and creating
a new interrupt handler could do the job, but I can´t get it working.
Any
These are patches that I've sent in before but don't seem to have been
picked up by anybody yet. Resending so they don't fall off the radar.
1, 2, and 3 of 4 in particular fix real, observed bugs on powerpc.
On 12/13/2011 04:22 PM, Erik Lotspeich wrote:
Thank you - I overlooked the obvious.
Actually it may be a distro bug, I suggest you report it there.
Paolo
Thank you - I overlooked the obvious.
Regards,
Erik
On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 8:57 AM, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 12:55 PM, Erik Lotspeich
> wrote:
>> On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 2:06 AM, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote:
>>> Please post your QEMU command-line (you can find it with "ps a
On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 12:55 PM, Erik Lotspeich
wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 2:06 AM, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote:
>> Please post your QEMU command-line (you can find it with "ps aux | grep
>> qemu").
>>
>> If you are running through libvirt/virsh/virt-manager there may be
>> permission requiremen
On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 2:06 AM, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote:
> Please post your QEMU command-line (you can find it with "ps aux | grep
> qemu").
>
> If you are running through libvirt/virsh/virt-manager there may be
> permission requirements since the guest can be set to run as an
> unprivileged user w
On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 08:50:39PM -0600, Erik Lotspeich wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I posted this on qemu-discuss and didn't receive any replies; sorry
> for posting it twice.
>
> I have OpenSUSE 12.1 and I have a 64-bit Windows 7 VM that recognizes
> the emulated ICH6 sound (HDA audio device). Although W
Hi,
I posted this on qemu-discuss and didn't receive any replies; sorry
for posting it twice.
I have OpenSUSE 12.1 and I have a 64-bit Windows 7 VM that recognizes
the emulated ICH6 sound (HDA audio device). Although Windows
recognizes this sound device just fine, there is no sound from the
Wind
...I suppose you won�t find the place more interesting than this site!
http://www.spassvoegel-woellstein.de/page.december.php?uvpage=16t5
List,
Please find a patch that adds a new section for iSCSI to qemu-doc.
This section provides much more verbose description of iSCSI and its use than
the manpage and also includes a short description on how to set up a
simple iSCSI target on loopback and then accessing it from QEMU.
The example
These patches apply against akivity memory/master.
They convert syborg to memory API and various
arm related component to VMState.
Omap boards where not modified because Linaro is
currently refactoring them.
Xscale was left apart too.
This version fix coding style issues.
>From Benoît Canet #
ff
I wonder if it is possible to compile a newer version of qemu with
(the defunct) kqemu on Windows (XP)?
The winkvm project doesn't seem to be usable yet.
--
Ottavio
ds
Please find attached a patch to add built-in support for iSCSI into QEMU.
Please review and/or apply this patch.
This is the latest version of this patch and I think I have addressed all
previous concerns and suggestions.
Using built-in iSCSI support has many advantages for certain use cases :
[PULL] trace: Thread-safe simpletrace and additional trace events
The following 3 tracing commits were sent to qemu-devel. I have made them
available for convenient pulling into qemu.git/master.
The following changes since commit 07bf23a77131668ef8db37e08d508b117655ce86:
MAINTAINERS: add Latt
hi
I'm running MIPS user mode emulation with qemu. Whenever a memory reference
instruction comes from MIPS ELF how this address is translated to host virtual
address? or is there any mapping function which is used? my host machine is x86
Regards
On Tue, Jan 04, 2011 at 04:06:13PM +, Peter Maydell wrote:
> On 4 January 2011 15:15, Aurelien Jarno wrote:
> > This patch series start by a cleanup to remove dead HPPA code and fix a
> > few inconsistencies. The following patch implement implement correct
> > NaN propagation rules for MIPS an
On 4 January 2011 15:15, Aurelien Jarno wrote:
> This patch series start by a cleanup to remove dead HPPA code and fix a
> few inconsistencies. The following patch implement implement correct
> NaN propagation rules for MIPS and PowerPC, following commit 3
> 54f211b1a49a7387929e22d6e63849fcba48f8a
This patch series start by a cleanup to remove dead HPPA code and fix a
few inconsistencies. The following patch implement implement correct
NaN propagation rules for MIPS and PowerPC, following commit 3
54f211b1a49a7387929e22d6e63849fcba48f8a.
Changes from v1:
- Add "softfloat: use bits32 instead
Please find a new block driver that IF libiscsi is present on the system
will link with this userspace client library and make qemu able to
access iscsi devices directly without exposing them to the host.
The library used is multiplatform and available from
git://github.com/sahlberg/libiscsi.git
http://serwis.avx.pl/index0005.php
http://www.folhadeitapetininga.com.br/index0005.php
http://cuzzucoli.it/index000.php
http://aigipe.it/index99.php
http://www.tk-motorsport.at/thunder.php
>From Michael Roth # This line is ignored.
From: Michael Roth
Subject: [RFC][PATCH v3 00/11] virtagent: host/guest RPC communication agent
In-Reply-To:
This set of patches is meant to be applied on top of the recently submitted
Virtproxy v2 patchset. It can also be obtained at:
git://repo.or.
QEMU Enhanced Disk format is a disk image format that forgoes features
found in qcow2 in favor of better levels of performance and data
integrity. Due to its simpler on-disk layout, it is possible to safely
perform metadata updates more efficiently.
Installations, suspend-to-disk, and other alloc
>From 42415cc70a087e9a280667eddbeb2af1029c96a0 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: Corentin Chary
Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 09:23:48 +0200
Subject: [PATCH 00/10] vnc encodings
Cc: Anthony Liguori ,
Alexander Graf ,
Adam Litke
Hi,
I this series you'll find zlib fixes and a new tight encoding.
Tig
Hello,
I hope you will excuse a naive question here. I'm not getting any
response on the users' lists.
I'm wondering whether shutting down a guest machine with the quit
command in the monitor can corrupt the snapshots saved with savevm. As
I understand it, quit will have an effect on the
>From cc0481503722124f085d785637aeea9ea51fab9b Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: Jason S. McMullan
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 00:56:00 -0400
Subject: [PATCH] hw/sd: Support SDHC size cards
Signed-off-by: Jason S. McMullan
---
hw/sd.c | 153 ++---
I'm trying to test my fixes to the linux-user emulation on some additonal
architectures now, but I'm running into problems. I can debug these some,
but any suggestions or guidence, especially from people more familiar
with the architecture core code, would be appreciated.
The environment is a De
jeremy fenelon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hey guys thanks for a great product. I don't know if its been documented
> already but I was able to install windows xp on qemu with a HP Laptop
> Restore disk.
Lucky. I think the last time I tried that, it didn't work because of the
way that H
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