Re: [python-uk] copyright info in source

2013-09-10 Thread Andy Robinson
On 9 September 2013 19:53, Russel Winder wrote: > The licence statement has to be in each and every individual file since > in UK and USA law each file is deemed a separate work. > Russel, thanks. That's interesting. The practical issue is "how not to forget over time". A test in a test suite,

Re: [python-uk] copyright info in source

2013-09-10 Thread Doug Winter
On 09/09/13 19:53, Russel Winder wrote: Sadly, although it would be nice to have a file that says it applies to all files and so be very DRY, this will not work in UK and USA law, possibly also other jurisdictions. The licence statement has to be in each and every individual file since in UK an

Re: [python-uk] copyright info in source

2013-09-10 Thread Pedro Kroger
Pedro - http://pedrokroger.net http://musicforgeeksandnerds.com On Sep 10, 2013, at 9:03 AM, Andy Robinson wrote: > On 9 September 2013 19:53, Russel Winder wrote: >> The licence statement has to be in each and every individual file since >> in UK and USA law each file is deemed a separa

Re: [python-uk] copyright info in source

2013-09-10 Thread Jonathan Hartley
Thanks Doug. I'd be interested if you wanted to expand on why you like that license. Is it anything other than what I could glean from a layman's reading of the text? That Apache license page is puzzling to me, no doubt due to my inexperience in such matters. Why does the boilerplate attac

Re: [python-uk] copyright info in source

2013-09-10 Thread Jon Ribbens
On Mon, Sep 09, 2013 at 07:53:26PM +0100, Russel Winder wrote: > Sadly, although it would be nice to have a file that says it applies to > all files and so be very DRY, this will not work in UK and USA law, > possibly also other jurisdictions. Do you have a reference for this? As far as I am aware

Re: [python-uk] copyright info in source

2013-09-10 Thread Jon Ribbens
On Mon, Sep 09, 2013 at 08:03:06PM +0100, Russel Winder wrote: > Whilst you are correct that this has been agreed by case law for books > and magazines (the so called moral rights), as far as I am aware there > has been no case in the UK that has provided case law for this. Legal > advice is always

Re: [python-uk] copyright info in source

2013-09-10 Thread Doug Winter
On 10/09/13 13:33, Jonathan Hartley wrote: Thanks Doug. I'd be interested if you wanted to expand on why you like that license. Is it anything other than what I could glean from a layman's reading of the text? It's basically the 3-clause MIT license, but legally much more watertight and (im

Re: [python-uk] copyright info in source

2013-09-10 Thread John Lee
On Tue, 10 Sep 2013, Andy Robinson wrote: On 9 September 2013 19:53, Russel Winder wrote: The licence statement has to be in each and every individual file since in UK and USA law each file is deemed a separate work. Russel, thanks. That's interesting. The practical issue is "how not to f

Re: [python-uk] copyright info in source

2013-09-10 Thread Russel Winder
On Tue, 2013-09-10 at 14:14 +0100, Jon Ribbens wrote: […] > Only, I think, because lawyers tend to err on the side of what they > perceive as caution rather than having any confidence that their > advice is actually correct. Indeed. Most are usually interested in winning, and making money, not in

Re: [python-uk] copyright info in source

2013-09-10 Thread Russel Winder
On Tue, 2013-09-10 at 14:18 +0100, Jon Ribbens wrote: > On Mon, Sep 09, 2013 at 07:53:26PM +0100, Russel Winder wrote: > > Sadly, although it would be nice to have a file that says it applies to > > all files and so be very DRY, this will not work in UK and USA law, > > possibly also other jurisdic

Re: [python-uk] copyright info in source

2013-09-10 Thread Doug Winter
On 10/09/13 22:55, Russel Winder wrote: You mean, was this computer program code written over 70 years ago or by somebody who died over 70 years ago? It doesn't seem very likely. Not always. As I understand it, if there is a copyright violation that the copyright owner fails to act against, it ca