Re: [python-uk] Web Development with Python

2005-12-14 Thread Andy Robinson
Simon Faulkner wrote: > I often have to write small web databases - nothing too fancy, just a > table or 2 and a few forms/reports. Sometimes it's just a web frontend > to a program othertimes more like a database for tracking items. > > I have used Python and MySQL in CGI but it seems quite lo

Re: [python-uk] Web Development with Python

2005-12-14 Thread Simon Faulkner
Andy Robinson wrote: > CGI is only longwinded if you do it all from scratch; there > are many nice frameworks and paradigms to give you a head start. > > I have been playing with Django (www.djangoproject.com) and it's > beautiful. You essentially declare the database schema in the > Python model

Re: [python-uk] Web Development with Python

2005-12-14 Thread Michael Foord
Simon Faulkner wrote: > I often have to write small web databases - nothing too fancy, just a > table or 2 and a few forms/reports. Sometimes it's just a web frontend > to a program othertimes more like a database for tracking items. > > I have used Python and MySQL in CGI but it seems quite lo

Re: [python-uk] Web Development with Python

2005-12-14 Thread Tim Golden
[Michael Foord] > Simon Faulkner wrote: [... snip re web app ...] > I'm surprised you haven't had a flood of emails replying to this. :-) Might be worth pointing out to Simon that this is the UK Python list, and while I'm quite you'll get helpful answers, this list tends to be used for very UK-s

Re: [python-uk] Web Development with Python

2005-12-14 Thread Simon Faulkner
>>I'm surprised you haven't had a flood of emails replying to this. :-) Ha ha! Everyone has their favorite! > Might be worth pointing out to Simon that this is the > UK Python list, and while I'm quite you'll get > helpful answers, this list tends to be used for very > UK-specific things such as

Re: [python-uk] Web Development with Python

2005-12-14 Thread Doug Winter
Michael Foord wrote: > A *great* option - that doesn't seem to be getting much mileage at the > moment - is a Twisted based solution. In conjunction with Axiom > (database) and Nevow (templating) and possibly even Mantissa (ready > built application server under heavy development) it is an asynchro

Re: [python-uk] Web Development with Python

2005-12-14 Thread Fuzzyman
Michael Foord wrote: > Simon Faulkner wrote: [snip..] > The usual choices (with Python) are : > > Turbogears > Subway > Django > Karrigell > (plus others - albatross ?) > Oh... not forgetting the 'not-quite-vapourware' web.py, which they have just used to rewrite re

Re: [python-uk] Web Development with Python

2005-12-14 Thread Tim Golden
[Simon Faulkner] | [Tim Golden] | > Might be worth pointing out to Simon that this is the | > UK Python list, and while I'm quite you'll get | > helpful answers, this list tends to be used for very | > UK-specific things such as meetups, jobs etc. Not | > saying there's anything wrong with posting

Re: [python-uk] Web Development with Python

2005-12-14 Thread Simon Faulkner
> My own experience is that the main Python group is > remarkably mature and uninfested with script-kiddies > and so on. I wouldn't say there are never spats, but > even those tend to be remarkably controlled, and often > informative (in a heated kind of way). By all means > stick to the UK list, b

Re: [python-uk] Web Development with Python

2005-12-14 Thread Tim Golden
[Simon Faulkner] | | [re my suggestion to use c.l.py] | | You are correct of course. In fact, I usually get the | correct answer to my programming problems within minutes. Ah yes. Now I take the trouble to Google a bit, you obviously *have* used the main list. Sorry, I took you for someone wh

Re: [python-uk] Web Development with Python

2005-12-14 Thread Simon Faulkner
> As one of the respondents I maintain that this group has a superb > signal-to-noise ratio and gives correct answers to reasonable questions > almost instantly ;-) You are correct. One of the best things about Python :-) > John Pinner has been hinting at organising a proper community > confer

Re: [python-uk] Web Development with Python

2005-12-14 Thread Andy Robinson
> I appreciate the difference but also find that I sometimes get a more > measured, mature response from the UK specific groups without anyone > yelling "Like, d00d, use PHP man!" As one of the respondents I maintain that this group has a superb signal-to-noise ratio and gives correct answers t