Re: [python-uk] Reviewing third-party packages

2017-07-29 Thread Steve - Gadget Barnes
On 28/07/2017 10:08, Patrick Morris wrote: > On 28/07/2017 05:54, Steve - Gadget Barnes wrote: >> >> >> On 28/07/2017 00:27, p...@getaroundtoit.co.uk wrote: >>> S, (Andy and Mike) >>> >>> Yes, you've hit a couple of pertinent points; and it might make for an >>> interesting project. >>> >>> Howev

Re: [python-uk] Reviewing third-party packages

2017-07-28 Thread PyUK
Patrick, All of the above are good =indeed - am still digesting... You could also use the following to check for known vulnerabilities https://www.openhub.net/explore/projects Thank you for this - I had forgotten about BlackDuck (have apparently fallen off their mailing list). Will ha

Re: [python-uk] Reviewing third-party packages

2017-07-28 Thread PyUK
Thank you James, this starts to summarise specific concerns: The other thing I try and push is to ensure that alternatives are considered where appropriate - which is a bit more contextual, but it's very easy to jump to "I want to use this" long before checking if there are better alternatives

Re: [python-uk] Reviewing third-party packages

2017-07-28 Thread James Cheese
We do similar with a checklist for the practicalities (though I for one still have no good solution for guaranteeing the security of code beyond reviewing it line-by-line...) - we've gone slightly more general so as to apply to "technologies" as well as just libraries, but our process is roughly:

Re: [python-uk] Reviewing third-party packages

2017-07-28 Thread Patrick Morris
On 28/07/2017 05:54, Steve - Gadget Barnes wrote: On 28/07/2017 00:27, p...@getaroundtoit.co.uk wrote: S, (Andy and Mike) Yes, you've hit a couple of pertinent points; and it might make for an interesting project. However, I was looking for a check-list or similar which I can give to the per

Re: [python-uk] Reviewing third-party packages

2017-07-27 Thread Steve - Gadget Barnes
On 28/07/2017 00:27, p...@getaroundtoit.co.uk wrote: > S, (Andy and Mike) > > Yes, you've hit a couple of pertinent points; and it might make for an > interesting project. > > However, I was looking for a check-list or similar which I can give to > the pertinent dev.teams to ensure that they

Re: [python-uk] Reviewing third-party packages

2017-07-27 Thread PyUK
S, (Andy and Mike) Yes, you've hit a couple of pertinent points; and it might make for an interesting project. However, I was looking for a check-list or similar which I can give to the pertinent dev.teams to ensure that they are 'covering all the bases' - whereas the question: "have you che

Re: [python-uk] Reviewing third-party packages

2017-07-27 Thread S Walker
Exactly my point, yes- especially if one were to make a framework designed to easily analyse such things (when it becomes much easier for the malware because it for instance could just check whether the framework is in the current env (as a super-trivial example- but any framework that is easy t

Re: [python-uk] Reviewing third-party packages

2017-07-27 Thread Mike Eriksson
On Thu, Jul 27, 2017 at 2:39 PM Andy Robinson wrote: > On 27 July 2017 at 15:33, S Walker wrote: > > I suspect malicious phone-home (and other deliberately malicious > security) > > stuff would be very difficult to automatically test for > > Presumably you want to spy on outbound network activit

Re: [python-uk] Reviewing third-party packages

2017-07-27 Thread Andy Robinson
On 27 July 2017 at 15:33, S Walker wrote: > I suspect malicious phone-home (and other deliberately malicious security) > stuff would be very difficult to automatically test for Presumably you want to spy on outbound network activity from your test machine, rather than analysing code? - Andy

Re: [python-uk] Reviewing third-party packages

2017-07-27 Thread S Walker
I suspect malicious phone-home (and other deliberately malicious security) stuff would be very difficult to automatically test for, as you're then in a Volkswagen situation and you'll be entering into an arms race with anyone who is taking such malicious actions. For other aspects, I'm afraid I

Re: [python-uk] Reviewing third-party packages

2017-07-26 Thread Michael Grazebrook
It's a question which interests me too. If you find some good resources, could you post them to this group? Do you know how much checking is done on the Active State and Anaconda distributions? On 27 July 2017 at 00:17:33 +01:00, p...@getaroundtoit.co.uk wrote: > Are you able to recommend mate