Re: [python-uk] London Python Roles

2010-12-17 Thread Zeth
On 17 December 2010 08:56, Ross Lawley wrote: > Personally, I would have scanned and then ignored the message had it not had > 31 replies!! The irony further underlined by you adding another (and then me too!). Merry Christmas to all UK Pythonistas! __

Re: [python-uk] London Python Roles

2010-12-17 Thread Ross Lawley
Personally, I would have scanned and then ignored the message had it not had 31 replies!! On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 8:49 AM, Zeth wrote: > On 13 December 2010 16:31, Alec Battles wrote: > > > > Am I the only one who considers this a bit spammy? > > No I also consider it more spam than ham when it

Re: [python-uk] London Python Roles

2010-12-17 Thread Zeth
On 13 December 2010 16:31, Alec Battles wrote: > > Am I the only one who considers this a bit spammy? No I also consider it more spam than ham when it is a vague advert rather than details for a real job. If it doesn't have real details (precise location, industry, salary in pounds, etc) then it

Re: [python-uk] London Python Roles

2010-12-16 Thread John J Lee
On Thu, 16 Dec 2010, Andy Robinson wrote: [...] I have always felt that if people wanted to discuss technical stuff, they would tend to use comp.lang.python, StackOverflow or whatever to get the widest input. A UK list is pretty much here for meetups, local (including City) news and jobs, and ma

Re: [python-uk] London Python Roles

2010-12-16 Thread Andy Robinson
I used to be the original list moderator. Many years back, I think we agreed that recruiters in moderation were OK, and I accept that some firms have reasons not to advertise directly. I have always felt that if people wanted to discuss technical stuff, they would tend to use comp.lang.python, St

Re: [python-uk] London Python Roles

2010-12-16 Thread Robin Shields
This is all fascinating stuff, I've learned a lot. If this is the outcome of recruiters posting on the list, I'm all for it! On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 11:02 PM, Andy Robinson wrote: > > Report Lab does a fair bit of work in the financial sector in a rather > different field. > Sorry, the light too

Re: [python-uk] London Python Roles

2010-12-15 Thread Andy Robinson
> Report Lab does a fair bit of work in the financial sector in a rather > different field. Sorry, the light took a while to reach the batcave tonight... I was pushing Python in finance back in 1997/8, and there have been many, many people using it (usually under the radar at first) in the City f

Re: [python-uk] London Python Roles

2010-12-15 Thread Katie T
On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 2:02 PM, Jonathan Hartley wrote: > Can I ask you to clarify one thing you mentioned? My understanding was that > speed of numerical modelling was only of such vital import if you are doing > low-latency automated trading, in the sort of scenario where you need to be > on a

Re: [python-uk] London Python Roles

2010-12-15 Thread Jonathan Hartley
Hey, Interesting to hear that, thanks Micaheal. Can I ask you to clarify one thing you mentioned? My understanding was that speed of numerical modelling was only of such vital import if you are doing low-latency automated trading, in the sort of scenario where you need to be on a box placed o

Re: [python-uk] London Python Roles

2010-12-15 Thread Michael Grazebrook
I work in the financial sector. Python is definately increasing. Some systems are being written in Python, but that's not its main use. Certainly not for calculations and financial models, where they normally have to be very fast. It's popular as a repacement for Perl, for example in batch au

Re: [python-uk] London Python Roles

2010-12-15 Thread Matt Hamilton
On 15 Dec 2010, at 00:55, Katie T wrote: > On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 4:06 PM, Ben Corke wrote: >> >> Anyway, not sure there are enough UK jobs out there to justify a UK >> board currently, but I'm seeing Python as part of a skillset becoming >> more and more popular over the last few years, espec

Re: [python-uk] London Python Roles

2010-12-14 Thread Katie T
On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 4:06 PM, Ben Corke wrote: > > Anyway, not sure there are enough UK jobs out there to justify a UK > board currently, but I'm seeing Python as part of a skillset becoming > more and more popular over the last few years, especially in the > embedded sector. I would have said

Re: [python-uk] London Python Roles

2010-12-14 Thread Douglas Livingstone
Richard, That's quite a reaction you have received on the python-uk mailing list. I'm interested in Python opportunities in London, could you give me more details about the positions you are advertising? Regards, Douglas On 9 Dec 2010, at 14:38, Richard Catley wrote: > Dear all > > I’m look

Re: [python-uk] London Python Roles

2010-12-14 Thread Ben Corke
> There already is a python job board: > > http://www.python.org/community/jobs/ > > (International but it covers the UK) > > Given there seems to be a split in opinions why not create a > python-uk-jobs mailing list that way people who want to subscribe to > Python jobs can do so, without it bothe

Re: [python-uk] London Python Roles

2010-12-14 Thread René Dudfield
Hi, Not really. Posting jobs is in the description of the list - so it's not unsolicited. "This list is to help UK Python users to form a community, arrange events, advertise help or jobs wanted or sought and generally chat." Recruiters have been posting since 2001, and only a maximum of a few

Re: [python-uk] London Python Roles

2010-12-14 Thread Katie T
On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 8:21 PM, Ben Corke wrote: > I am happy to devote some time helping with the dev and management  of > a Python job board. I have designed and implemented a couple of > successful small job boards in the past, so sure I can add value. There already is a python job board: ht

Re: [python-uk] London Python Roles

2010-12-13 Thread Jonathan Hartley
The list wil get used for what it ends up getting used for, by which I mean recruiters are part of the community and will have to decide for themselves whether they want to post here. But for what it's worth, I personally don't like job postings on the Python-uk list, and I applaud the idea to c

Re: [python-uk] London Python Roles

2010-12-13 Thread richard barran
On 13 Dec 2010, at 19:36, Tim Golden wrote: > I'm genuinely surprised by this reaction which comes up > even more forcefully on the main Python lists. It seems > like a reasonable use of a (technically and geographically) > focused mailing list. You might not like job agencies, but > there doesn't

Re: [python-uk] London Python Roles

2010-12-13 Thread Nicholas Tollervey
On 13 Dec 2010, at 20:27, John Pinner wrote: > HI, > > On 13 December 2010 19:36, Tim Golden wrote: >> On 13/12/2010 7:27 PM, John Pinner wrote: >>> >>> On 13 December 2010 16:31, Alec Battles wrote: >>> Am I the only one who considers this a bit spammy? >>> >>> No ;-) >>> >>> O

Re: [python-uk] London Python Roles

2010-12-13 Thread Nicholas Tollervey
On 13 Dec 2010, at 16:31, Alec Battles wrote: > Am I the only one who considers this a bit spammy? Obviously not, but I can't see how this is spam. As Tim pointed out, this is a technically and geographically focussed list and this post is relevant both in terms of technology and location. Fu

Re: [python-uk] London Python Roles

2010-12-13 Thread Jakub Gustak
On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 8:08 PM, Will McGugan wrote: > I don't mind jobs being posted here. Although recruiters could get annoying, > because they tend not to give a way details regarding how Python is used. > There could also be a dozen posts for the same job if it gets out of hand. > Will This

Re: [python-uk] London Python Roles

2010-12-13 Thread John Pinner
HI, On 13 December 2010 19:36, Tim Golden wrote: > On 13/12/2010 7:27 PM, John Pinner wrote: >> >> On 13 December 2010 16:31, Alec Battles  wrote: >> >>> Am I the only one who considers this a bit spammy? >>> >> >> No ;-) >> >> On some other lists to which I subscribe, agencies are regarded as th

Re: [python-uk] London Python Roles

2010-12-13 Thread Ben Corke
As a recruiter (and a budding Python developer) who has found a few users of the UK Python List gainful employment, it would be a shame to lose the ability to post well qualified Python Jobs to users here. The response to this makes me inclined to not post jobs here for fear of a roasting. I seem

Re: [python-uk] London Python Roles

2010-12-13 Thread Will McGugan
I don't mind jobs being posted here. Although recruiters could get annoying, because they tend not to give a way details regarding how Python is used. There could also be a dozen posts for the same job if it gets out of hand. Will On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 7:46 PM, Sebastian Komianos wrote: > So,

Re: [python-uk] London Python Roles

2010-12-13 Thread Sebastian Komianos
So, if one hears about a Python job role it won't be considered nice of him to let the rest on this list know? Just asking, no irony intended. --- Sebastian Komianos http://about.me/sebkom http://twitter.com/sebkom On 13 Dec 2010, at 19:36, Jakub Gustak wrote: >> Am I the only one who consid

Re: [python-uk] London Python Roles

2010-12-13 Thread Jakub Gustak
> Am I the only one who considers this a bit spammy? +1 This is not job board. If one decides to post a job offer here better make it more precise. That's my 5p _ jlg ___ python-uk mailing list python-uk@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listin

Re: [python-uk] London Python Roles

2010-12-13 Thread Tim Golden
On 13/12/2010 7:27 PM, John Pinner wrote: On 13 December 2010 16:31, Alec Battles wrote: Am I the only one who considers this a bit spammy? No ;-) On some other lists to which I subscribe, agencies are regarded as the lowest of the low and are banned. I'm genuinely surprised by this reac

Re: [python-uk] London Python Roles

2010-12-13 Thread John Pinner
On 13 December 2010 16:31, Alec Battles wrote: > Am I the only one who considers this a bit spammy? > No ;-) On some other lists to which I subscribe, agencies are regarded as the lowest of the low and are banned. John -- > > On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 2:38 PM, Richard Catley < > rcat...@fuelrec

Re: [python-uk] London Python Roles

2010-12-13 Thread Floris Bruynooghe
On 13 December 2010 16:31, Alec Battles wrote: > > Am I the only one who considers this a bit spammy? Nope, I do too. > On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 2:38 PM, Richard Catley > wrote: >> >> Dear all >> >> >> >> I’m looking for two permanent Python/Django developers to join a high >> profile incubate

Re: [python-uk] London Python Roles

2010-12-13 Thread Tim Fernando
Hello there, I'm quite interested in the role, is there any management involved? Could you send me more information? Best wishes, Tim On 9 December 2010 14:38, Richard Catley wrote: > Dear all > > > > I’m looking for two permanent Python/Django developers to join a high > profile incubated