Chris Miles wrote:
> You can usually spot them as the group of people not watching the football.
>
> And there's usually a Python book or two on the table.
Nah, it's much more like this
http://oregonstate.edu/dept/ncs/photos/snakes.jpg
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> = perhaps one year in one *town* and one year in another.
LOL, I just spent 3 mins trying to parse that!
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Andy McKay wrote:
>> It says the 15th on the web?
>>
>> http://norweb.cnuk.org/category/events/
>
> My apologies. As ever (well occasionally) the web is correct and my
> monday addled brain is incorrect.
Cool, I *can* come :-)
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Andy McKay wrote:
> We are just starting a new user group in the Northwest here called
> NorWeb, that has quite a python component to it:
>
> http://norweb.cnuk.org/about/
>
> Next chat is on the 16th about Django
It says the 15th on the web?
http://norweb.cnuk.org/category/events/
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> Michael (Now based north of the watford gap)
Welcome to 'oop north' Michael :-)
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> You sound like the sort of person who should be using the one I wrote,
> http://jonpy.sf.net/ ;-) It's designed to be lightweight and easy to
> use as well as powerful (it's very simple, nothing like the complexity
> of Zope etc).
>
> Just a quick plug ;-)
LOL - you should be on Parkinson with
> http://adju.st/entry/sucky-web-frameworks-redux
I feel like the guy on the Fast Show picking his football team!
Everytime I decide to go with a certain framework someone else makes a
good case for a different one and after I faff around for weeks I end up
writing it in 2 days in naked Python
> RoR and TG share the explict MVC model as a one-size-fits-all approach
> to web development, which may or may not be a bad thing depending on
> your application I guess. TG does seem to provide everything you need
> to write a complex web application, and it does provide a huge amount of
> t
> Yep, and it's pretty good too. Why do you ask?
I often need to write small, simple databases and have friends 'foaming'
about RoR.
If TurboGears can give me pretty much what RoR would but will also allow
me to use my (pathetic) Python skills then I will invest some time
having a go...
Sim
Anyone in the UK using Turbogears?
Sim
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> Anyone up for a Python meetup in Manchester? Say Wednesday 8th February, 7pm,
> Lass O'Gowrie [1]? (Unless anyone has a better suggestion? :-)
>
> [1] http://www.beerintheevening.com/pubs/s/11/1144/Lass_OGowrie/Manchester
>
> If so, I'll put up a page where people can sign up (if they want :-)
> Zope can be pretty lightweight if you just use plane ZPT, python scripts
> and ZSQL methods. When building those kinds of apps, I've never needed
> to do any explicit caching.
Yeah! But you've got 'Asbestos Underwear'! LOL
Just read your "Living Hell" presentation - wished I could hear the
>>functionality because it's all raw python and cgi. If I change the
>>database I have to troll the whole app!
>
>
> Well, you are using an OO language, it is kinda up to you to take
> advantage of it and make sure the SQL is maintained in some central
> place so you can easilly change databa
> As one of the respondents I maintain that this group has a superb
> signal-to-noise ratio and gives correct answers to reasonable questions
> almost instantly ;-)
You are correct. One of the best things about Python :-)
> John Pinner has been hinting at organising a proper community
> confer
> My own experience is that the main Python group is
> remarkably mature and uninfested with script-kiddies
> and so on. I wouldn't say there are never spats, but
> even those tend to be remarkably controlled, and often
> informative (in a heated kind of way). By all means
> stick to the UK list, b
>>I'm surprised you haven't had a flood of emails replying to this. :-)
Ha ha! Everyone has their favorite!
> Might be worth pointing out to Simon that this is the
> UK Python list, and while I'm quite you'll get
> helpful answers, this list tends to be used for very
> UK-specific things such as
Andy Robinson wrote:
> CGI is only longwinded if you do it all from scratch; there
> are many nice frameworks and paradigms to give you a head start.
>
> I have been playing with Django (www.djangoproject.com) and it's
> beautiful. You essentially declare the database schema in the
> Python model
I often have to write small web databases - nothing too fancy, just a
table or 2 and a few forms/reports. Sometimes it's just a web frontend
to a program othertimes more like a database for tracking items.
I have used Python and MySQL in CGI but it seems quite long winded.
I have used Zope/Plo
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